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    As part of the massive overhaul of our yard, I'm going to be creating/building a koi pond.

    Have any of you owned koi? Know any tips/tricks I should know for their care, particularly as regards designing the habitat? I will be talking to people here locally and doing other research, but I figured I'd get firsthand knowledge if anyone had some.
    I'm not here anymore.

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    Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
    As part of the massive overhaul of our yard, I'm going to be creating/building a koi pond.

    Have any of you owned koi? Know any tips/tricks I should know for their care, particularly as regards designing the habitat? I will be talking to people here locally and doing other research, but I figured I'd get firsthand knowledge if anyone had some.
    We used to have one here at tweb where you could even feed them

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    • #3
      When I moved into my home there was a plastic koi pond in the back yard. I didn't put any fish in it but I did use it as a water fountain. But a couple of years later it cracked and I had to fix it with silicon, then the next year it broke again and I finally gave up. I pulled it out a few weeks ago (been sitting empty for about a year now)

      So if you do make a koi pond, don't use those black plastic tubs. They will rot and crack on you after a few years. Use concrete, or dig a whole and put in a liner or something.

      I have no idea what would happen to the fish in the winter if it gets cold enough to freeze where you are.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        When I moved into my home there was a plastic koi pond in the back yard. I didn't put any fish in it but I did use it as a water fountain. But a couple of years later it cracked and I had to fix it with silicon, then the next year it broke again and I finally gave up. I pulled it out a few weeks ago (been sitting empty for about a year now)

        So if you do make a koi pond, don't use those black plastic tubs. They will rot and crack on you after a few years. Use concrete, or dig a whole and put in a liner or something.

        I have no idea what would happen to the fish in the winter if it gets cold enough to freeze where you are.
        I have a first cousin in Rochester, NY, who has a koi pond.
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        • #5
          In even a medium sized pond I know they can get big. Down the road from one of my relative's house somebody threw some in to get rid of them. Now they are like 3 feet long or so.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
            In even a medium sized pond I know they can get big. Down the road from one of my relative's house somebody threw some in to get rid of them. Now they are like 3 feet long or so.
            Seasquatch!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Seasquatch!!
              Nope, not the same lake. They are also too small even then. Besides, koi are colorful*, the Seasquatch is dark brown, with some lighter coloring near his belly.

              *Well, at least the ones I've seen.

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              • #8
                a mate of mine uses his bow to fish for them in the Waikato river.
                http://nzbowhunters.co.nz/public_htm...information-2/
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  When I moved into my home there was a plastic koi pond in the back yard. I didn't put any fish in it but I did use it as a water fountain. But a couple of years later it cracked and I had to fix it with silicon, then the next year it broke again and I finally gave up. I pulled it out a few weeks ago (been sitting empty for about a year now)

                  So if you do make a koi pond, don't use those black plastic tubs. They will rot and crack on you after a few years. Use concrete, or dig a whole and put in a liner or something.

                  I have no idea what would happen to the fish in the winter if it gets cold enough to freeze where you are.
                  I was thinking I'd dig a hole and line it. I have a small one in my front yard that I'm going to demolish. It's concrete, but it's cracked as well. Fixing it means draining the pond, though. I'm sure something similar happens with liner. I'll have to look into it.

                  Koi actually go dormant in the winter. The little bit of reading I've done indicates that you want to keep the water circulating a little to keep it from freezing over. I'm not sure what temperatures they can handle, but it very rarely freezes here.
                  I'm not here anymore.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Raphael View Post
                    a mate of mine uses his bow to fish for them in the Waikato river.
                    http://nzbowhunters.co.nz/public_htm...information-2/
                    I'm not here anymore.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
                      On the serious side, when living in South Africa my brother had a very big koi pond, and even made a stream that lead to a waterfall into the pond.it had a very deep section by the waterfall (about 6 foot) leading to a shallow "swampy" section that had lots of water plants that then went into the pump (so the koi would not be able to get into the pump)

                      Unfortunately from what I can see on street view, the new owners have filled it in the last 9 years.
                      Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
                        I was thinking I'd dig a hole and line it. I have a small one in my front yard that I'm going to demolish. It's concrete, but it's cracked as well. Fixing it means draining the pond, though. I'm sure something similar happens with liner. I'll have to look into it.

                        Koi actually go dormant in the winter. The little bit of reading I've done indicates that you want to keep the water circulating a little to keep it from freezing over. I'm not sure what temperatures they can handle, but it very rarely freezes here.
                        Yeah almost everything will break down eventually. Instead of Koi you should raise catfish, then you can eat them.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          Yeah almost everything will break down eventually. Instead of Koi you should raise catfish, then you can eat them.
                          From what I've been reading, you can eat koi too. I don't really care for catfish that much.
                          I'm not here anymore.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
                            From what I've been reading, you can eat koi too. I don't really care for catfish that much.
                            They are fun to catch though.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
                              I was thinking I'd dig a hole and line it. I have a small one in my front yard that I'm going to demolish. It's concrete, but it's cracked as well. Fixing it means draining the pond, though. I'm sure something similar happens with liner. I'll have to look into it.

                              Koi actually go dormant in the winter. The little bit of reading I've done indicates that you want to keep the water circulating a little to keep it from freezing over. I'm not sure what temperatures they can handle, but it very rarely freezes here.
                              I don't know anything about koi in winter, but the marine has a koi pond he tends to help him with his PTSD. I see it whenever I stop by, which is a few times a week.

                              It's dug in with a liner, and fairly small, maybe 3' by 10' and three or four feet deep, but that's enough to handle just under a dozen, I think, all of them about three years old now, and about a foot long. He's already expanded the pool once, and he's getting ready to expand it again.

                              It's covered with canvas over a trellis to protect the liner from south Florida sun, both of which he scavenged from behind a nearby fabric store, the point being this can all be done very much on the cheap.

                              There's one electric pump that filters directly back into the pool for circulation with a split running through a fountain.

                              The bottom of the pool is lined with gravel and a fish bridge. He's got plants growing above and on the sides of the pool, and some led strips for decorative lighting.

                              It looks pretty good.

                              Go ahead and try it for yourself. It's friendly to improvisation, and even if it all goes sideways is easy enough to set up and try again.

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