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jesterbr549
September 26th 2007, 06:18 PM
The Times of Noah
In the Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24) Y'shua compared the End Days to the Days of Noah and this is probably a veiled reference to the statement that was made in Genesis (by Y'shua himself, by the way) that his spirit would no longer strive with man but he had only 120 Years left before the flood.
Thus, in theory, there should be a major date in World's History, that affects the entire population - Jews, Gentiles and Ten Tribes, etc - exactly 120 Years before God's Wrath is poured out.
In Modern History there are two - and only two - dates that fit this description and that is 1917 AD when Allenby took Jerusalem during World War I and then 1948 AD after World War II when the Nation of Israel was reborn after 2000 Years.
Taking the latter date first and adding those 120 Years you arrive at 2068 AD as the possible time that God pours out his wrath at the end of the tribulation however, this would appear, at this point in time, to be nigh to impossible simply because I doubt that the world will last that long with out a major war, or that the Global Economy can be made to float another 60 years.
Thus, add that 120 Years to 1917 AD and you arrive precisely at 2037 AD as the time that God's Wrath begins to be poured out and this is the exact middle of the tribulation as presented in this post when the Abomination of Desolation occurs which ushers in the Great Tribulation which Y'shua said was worse than anything the world had ever seen or ever would see including the flood of Noah.
I personally find it hard to believe that this is a coincidence and I challenge any other Biblical Chronologist to find a better explanation or application of the Days of Noah to End Times Events.
Further Reading :
http://theoferrumii.geocities.master.com/texis/master/search/msgboard.html?Catid=46c0ed573
Sheepdog
September 27th 2007, 01:48 AM
ummm. Jesus in that very very next verse explains what he means by "the days of Noah." “For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark."
In other words, everything will seem to be business as usual, up to the day "of the Son of Man." people would either have not been aware of the signs of the coming, or else they ignored them.
jesterbr549
September 27th 2007, 01:47 PM
ummm. Jesus in that very very next verse explains what he means by "the days of Noah." “For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark."
In other words, everything will seem to be business as usual, up to the day "of the Son of Man." people would either have not been aware of the signs of the coming, or else they ignored them.
Yup. I agree completely and that fermentation process took a specific period of time of 120 years when the cup of Y'hova's wrath became full and was poured out.
See what I mean?
Secretary of the Navy Sparko
September 27th 2007, 01:58 PM
Why do you think the 1917 taking of Jerusalem is of any significance in regards to the end times? Jerusalem has risen and fallen many times, even in the last 2000 years (crusades) - why was 1917 any different?
The Curtmudgeon
September 27th 2007, 05:46 PM
Echoing Sparko, to some extent: Why do you think Allenby's taking of Jerusalem in '17 was more important to the world than Israel's reclaiming it in '67? Remember, Allenby didn't liberate Jerusalem for the Jews, he liberated it for Britain. While Allenby himself was very much a Biblical scholar and pro-Jewish, the British government to which he turned it over was (in general) not such, and continued in many ways the centuries of Ottoman repression (with occasional bouts of persecution) of the Jews of Jerusalem. Nothing changed for the Jews of Jerusalem in 1917 -- and when things did begin to change shortly thereafter, it wasn't for the better. '48 and '67 were much more important dates for them.
The (Allenby probably would have been aghast at the idea of an independent Israel as early as 1948) Curtmudgeon
jesterbr549
September 29th 2007, 12:55 PM
Why do you think the 1917 taking of Jerusalem is of any significance in regards to the end times? Jerusalem has risen and fallen many times, even in the last 2000 years (crusades) - why was 1917 any different?
From Wiki :
"The Balfour Declaration of 1917 (dated November 2, 1917) was a classified formal statement of policy by the British government on the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire in the aftermath of the World War I.
The letter stated the position, agreed at a British Cabinet meeting on October 31, 1917, that the British government supported Zionist plans for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine, with the condition that nothing should be done which might prejudice the rights of existing communities there."
If it was not for Allenby in 1917, 1967 would never have happened...
Secretary of the Navy Sparko
September 30th 2007, 01:35 AM
From Wiki :
"The Balfour Declaration of 1917 (dated November 2, 1917) was a classified formal statement of policy by the British government on the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire in the aftermath of the World War I.
The letter stated the position, agreed at a British Cabinet meeting on October 31, 1917, that the British government supported Zionist plans for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine, with the condition that nothing should be done which might prejudice the rights of existing communities there."
If it was not for Allenby in 1917, 1967 would never have happened...
So what?
Jerusalem has changed hands many times in the last 2,000 years.
jesterbr549
September 30th 2007, 04:38 PM
So what?
Jerusalem has changed hands many times in the last 2,000 years.
Really? How many times, may I ask?
That was the first time in 2000 years that it was in the hands of Israel - the Anglo Saxons being from the Ten Lost Tribes which, I believe, I mentioned somewhere above.
Because of this the Times of the Gentiles was put on Hold and the Times of Noah began which will end, as stated, in 1937 AD when the last three years of the Times of the Gentiles will run in fulfillment of Y'shua's words, "Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles is complete."
Secretary of the Navy Sparko
September 30th 2007, 05:12 PM
Really? How many times, may I ask?
That was the first time in 2000 years that it was in the hands of Israel - the Anglo Saxons being from the Ten Lost Tribes which, I believe, I mentioned somewhere above.
Because of this the Times of the Gentiles was put on Hold and the Times of Noah began which will end, as stated, in 1937 AD when the last three years of the Times of the Gentiles will run in fulfillment of Y'shua's words, "Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles is complete."
but it WASNT in the hands of the israelis in 1917. It was in the hands of the british.
jesterbr549
October 1st 2007, 01:46 PM
but it WASNT in the hands of the israelis in 1917. It was in the hands of the british.
Ah, I just got done saying that the Anglo Saxons were part of the Ten Lost Tribes.
Ah, Anglo Saxon = British.
Clear it up any for you?
The Curtmudgeon
October 1st 2007, 04:55 PM
...the Anglo Saxons being from the Ten Lost Tribes which, I believe, I mentioned somewhere above.
:lmbo:
And no, you hadn't mentioned the British Israelite nonsense eariler; if you had, I would have known not to waste time presenting real history to you.
The (I bet you think the Danes are from the Tribe of Dan, too?) Curtmudgeon
TyRockwell
October 1st 2007, 10:41 PM
but it WASNT in the hands of the israelis in 1917. It was in the hands of the british.
Jesus said that "Jerusalem will be trodden underfoot by the gentiles until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled." Jerusalem is still being trodden underfoot by the gentiles, the people who have not accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and Messiah. The times of the gentiles will be fulfilled when enough Hebrews look to Jesus and are saved. Paul said there is no difference between the unbelieving Jews and gentiles.
carelinks
October 5th 2007, 06:48 PM
Back to the original post. It is a commonly stressed theme throughout Scripture that the days of Noah are a type of the last days of AD70. The flood waters were upon the earth for 5 months. The siege of Jerusalem in AD70 lasted for the same period, coming after 3 years of the Roman campaign against Israel which started in AD67. The three and a half year suffering of Israel which culminated in AD70 may well point forward to a similar period in the last days; in which case the flood would typify the final months of that period, during which the judgments will be poured out most intensely. The five month tribulation of Rev. 9:10 may also have some relevance here.
I've written more on this at http://www.aletheiacollege.net/ld/1.htm
Secretary of the Navy Sparko
October 15th 2007, 01:10 PM
Ah, I just got done saying that the Anglo Saxons were part of the Ten Lost Tribes.
Ah, Anglo Saxon = British.
Clear it up any for you?
:lmbo:
Oh yeah that clears up a lot. You are a nutter.
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