So he rapes women and children for decades, fools everyone and dies a good old age. In a godless universe (where everyone dies anyway) - Jimmy, the sexual predator wins!
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The Morality Of James Savile
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The Morality Of James Savile
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3sTags: None
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo he rapes women and children for decades, fools everyone and dies a good old age. In a godless universe (where everyone dies anyway) - Jimmy, the sexual predator wins!
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostSo do many priests, ministers and evangelical leaders, whether the universe is Godless or not.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostApparently in your view no justice in God's universe.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo he rapes women and children for decades, fools everyone and dies a good old age. In a godless universe (where everyone dies anyway) - Jimmy, the sexual predator wins!
1: I don't like this example because it assumes [person a] has an especially vile sin life whereas [person b] is relatively innocent. That underlying assumption seems to contradict Scripture. In Christian theology are his victims less deserving of hell than Jimmy?
2: I don't like this example because I think the case could be made that Jimmy lost more in this life than he ever gained. I think he entered the next life with a tremendous net deficit of pain. I don't think happy well-adjusted people rape kids. I think I could make the argument that in a godless universe he paid a very large price.
3: You are addressing the topic of fairness. I think in Christian theology the greatest unfairness is me receiving eternal life - and that unfairness causes all others to pale in comparison. Getting away with crime is pretty much the salvation story, isn't it?
4: I think when it comes to a godless universe the extinction of a person is more threatening (or comforting, depending on your view) than someone getting away with a crime.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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I'm a little disturbed that you view getting away with rape as 'winning'.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only creepy guy on the internet.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostTo play the gerbil's advocate here:
1: I don't like this example because it assumes [person a] has an especially vile sin life whereas [person b] is relatively innocent. That underlying assumption seems to contradict Scripture. In Christian theology are his victims less deserving of hell than Jimmy?
2: I don't like this example because I think the case could be made that Jimmy lost more in this life than he ever gained. I think he entered the next life with a tremendous net deficit of pain. I don't think happy well-adjusted people rape kids. I think I could make the argument that in a godless universe he paid a very large price.
3: You are addressing the topic of fairness. I think in Christian theology the greatest unfairness is me receiving eternal life - and that unfairness causes all others to pale in comparison. Getting away with crime is pretty much the salvation story, isn't it?
4: I think when it comes to a godless universe the extinction of a person is more threatening (or comforting, depending on your view) than someone getting away with a crime.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostI'm a little disturbed that you view getting away with rape as 'winning'.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only creepy guy on the internet.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostApparently in your view no justice in God's universe.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIf what you stated is that actual reality of 'things' than logically 'Apparently in your view no justice in God's universe.'Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo he rapes women and children for decades, fools everyone and dies a good old age. In a godless universe (where everyone dies anyway) - Jimmy, the sexual predator wins!"Look at what happened after the European peoples succeeded in removing the clergy from public life and restricting them to their churches. They built up human being promoted enlightenment, creativity and rebellion. States which are based on religion confine their people in the circle of faith and fear."-Raif Badawi
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