Iowa presidential polls

[Philosophickle]

I hate living in Iowa for the most part, but election stuff is electrifying. In the last week I have met both Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney (they love talking to college kids :ahem: ), and in the last 6 months I've at least said "hi" to Ron Paul(had dinner with him), Hillary/Bill Clinton, Romney, Hunter, Thompson, Obama, and Beyonce Knowles.

Anyway, here are the latest numbers:

Huckabee: 29%
Romney: 24%
Giuliani: 13%
Thompson: 9%
Ron Paul: 7%
McCain: 7%
Tancredo: 6%
Hunter: 1%

Source (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071201/NEWS09/71130037/-1/iowapoll07)

[JonLanceBarker]

sweet!! :woohoo: :b_dance: :thumb: huckabee all the way!!!

(although i must say, i'm almost surprised McCain is just even with Ron Paul...almost. :hehe:)

[Philosophickle]

sweet!! :woohoo: :b_dance: :thumb: huckabee all the way!!!

(although i must say, i'm almost surprised McCain is just even with Ron Paul...almost. :hehe:)

Romney is getting kicked to the curb in spite of a record amount of spending in the state.

[Philosophickle]

Oooo, this is an interesting development:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8wjJieSib0&eurl=http://viewfromsomewhere.wordpress.com/

Watch the last few minutes of it.

[JonLanceBarker]

so...the only reason romney got 24%...was because people voted him in multiple times.

that's just pathetic.

[Philosophickle]

so...the only reason romney got 24%...was because people voted him in multiple times.

that's just pathetic.

Well, the video was from a recent straw poll, which is different than the results in the OP.
But still...

[Darth Executor]

It's amazing what Chuck Norris can do.

[Jackie Fox]

Iowa often does not bring the momentum New Hampshire and South Carolina do but it is significant nevertheless. A Huckabee victory may be significant there, or not. I hope it is but we will have to wait and see.

[Jimmy Higgins]

so...the only reason romney got 24%...was because people voted him in multiple times.

that's just pathetic.Romney got a plan passed in Massachusetts to ensure health coverage for every state resident. What in the world has Huckabee done in Arkansas to boast about, other than being a conservative Chrstian... which apparently is an automatic winner for some people?

My problem with Romney is that he is distancing himself from all the stuff that got him in a Governorship in Massachusetts to begin with. He isn't merely flip-flopping, he is trying to disown a lot of what he said. Romney has a long way to go before gaining my support... oh... and I voted for Republican Governor William Weld for senate over Kerry, so none of that partisan garbage. I've actually strayed across party lines in significant races.

[themuzicman]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a governor out of Arkansas came out of nowhere to beat Hilary and become President?

Michael

[Jimmy Higgins]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a governor out of Arkansas came out of nowhere to beat Hilary and become President?

MichaelNo. Not really. That wouldn't be ironic... only in an Alanis Morisette song would it be ironic.

[Trout]

What are the numbers for Beyonce?

[Jackie Fox]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a governor out of Arkansas came out of nowhere to beat Hilary and become President?

Michael

That is a correct use of the term "irony". It would also be other things.

[Jackie Fox]

What are the numbers for Beyonce?

Under 35, ineligible.

[JonLanceBarker]

That is a correct use of the term "irony". It would also be other things.

like "absolutely magnificent."
or "just the sort of thing we need."
:teeth:

[Tickle Me Mercury]

Romney got a plan passed in Massachusetts to ensure health coverage for every state resident. What in the world has Huckabee done in Arkansas to boast about, other than being a conservative Chrstian... which apparently is an automatic winner for some people?

My problem with Romney is that he is distancing himself from all the stuff that got him in a Governorship in Massachusetts to begin with. He isn't merely flip-flopping, he is trying to disown a lot of what he said. Romney has a long way to go before gaining my support... oh... and I voted for Republican Governor William Weld for senate over Kerry, so none of that partisan garbage. I've actually strayed across party lines in significant races.

I would suspect that Universal Healthcare is a turn-off for a lot of conservative voters. So what you see as something worth considering, they are seeing as a black mark on his record.

[Timothy Leary]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a governor out of Arkansas came out of nowhere to beat Hilary and become President?

Michael
Nah. He's got enough common ground with Hillary that they could run as a unity ticket.

[JonLanceBarker]

Nah. He's got enough common ground with Hillary that they could run as a unity ticket.

HERETIC!!!!

just kidding...although i still don't agree with you. :wink:

(he couldn't run with her anyway unless one joined the other's party.)

[Jackie Fox]

like "absolutely magnificent."
or "just the sort of thing we need."
:teeth:

In the case of some of us, "time to get the passport and suitcase before the SS comes to the door".

[JonLanceBarker]

i didn't know you lived in germany past. :teeth:

[Darth Executor]

In the case of some of us, "time to get the passport and suitcase before the SS comes to the door".

Heading to an institution where they can provide you with the care you need, hopefully.

[Darth Executor]

Romney got a plan passed in Massachusetts to ensure health coverage for every state resident. What in the world has Huckabee done in Arkansas to boast about, other than being a conservative Chrstian... which apparently is an automatic winner for some people?

My problem with Romney is that he is distancing himself from all the stuff that got him in a Governorship in Massachusetts to begin with. He isn't merely flip-flopping, he is trying to disown a lot of what he said. Romney has a long way to go before gaining my support... oh... and I voted for Republican Governor William Weld for senate over Kerry, so none of that partisan garbage. I've actually strayed across party lines in significant races.

He needs to get the Republican nomination first, of course he has to distance himself from all the liberal stuff he did. If it makes you feel better, I think you can safely vote for him since he's probably lying.

[themuzicman]

In the case of some of us, "time to get the passport and suitcase before the SS comes to the door".

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

Michael;

[Philosophickle]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a governor out of Arkansas came out of nowhere to beat Hilary and become President?

Michael

Honestly, I don't know which of those two candidates I dislike more.

[Darth Executor]

Honestly, I don't know which of those two candidates I dislike more.

The pro choice one?

[Philosophickle]

The pro choice one?

If Huckabee tries to diffuse abortion federally then he might as well be pro-choice. Making it the state's decision will get it done light years faster.

[Darth Executor]

If Huckabee tries to diffuse abortion federally then he might as well be pro-choice. Making it the state's decision will get it done light years faster.

Why are the two mutually exclusive? You can start with the latter and work up to the former.

[Jackie Fox]

Heading to an institution where they can provide you with the care you need, hopefully.

Any institution where the Religious Right has the powerlessness it deserves is fine, say, Iceland. Though it would be rewarding to take a few out as they come for us, exile from a country that would elect Huckabee would be more prudent, though running an underground railroad so women can reach healthcare providers would be more appropriate.

[Jackie Fox]

If Huckabee tries to diffuse abortion federally then he might as well be pro-choice. Making it the state's decision will get it done light years faster.

Explain "diffuse federally" please.

If he loses on the issues choice will be a primary one.

[Timothy Leary]

Explain "diffuse federally" please.

If he loses on the issues choice will be a primary one.
Jackie, you're a smart lady, you know what he means - he means trying to ban it on a federal level as opposed to on a state level. If the states were allowed to ban abortion I can promise you a large number of them (I'd say 70%) would ban abortion in a heartbeat.

[Jackie Fox]

Jackie, you're a smart lady, you know what he means - he means trying to ban it on a federal level as opposed to on a state level. If the states were allowed to ban abortion I can promise you a large number of them (I'd say 70%) would ban abortion in a heartbeat.

I thought that's what it was. If that happened (35 states doing that) there would be riots and bloodshed at all but maybe two of their state capitols and within a week all but maybe two more would reverse themselves.

[Philosophickle]

I thought that's what it was. If that happened (35 states doing that) there would be riots and bloodshed at all but maybe two of their state capitols and within a week all but maybe two more would reverse themselves.

Bloodshed we got in droves already. At least it wouldn't be the babies that were dying.

[Tickle Me Mercury]

I thought that's what it was. If that happened (35 states doing that) there would be riots and bloodshed at all but maybe two of their state capitols and within a week all but maybe two more would reverse themselves.

Riots? Really?

[Teallaura]

Why are the two mutually exclusive? You can start with the latter and work up to the former.

It'd be kinda pointless. It's also not really possible - Federal law has to be dealt with to even throw the decision back to the states.

[Teallaura]

Riots? Really?

I suppose three people in a VW van waving signs and throwing flowers could conceivably constitute a riot...


A laugh riot, anyway... :ahem:

[Tickle Me Mercury]

I suppose three people in a VW van waving signs and throwing flowers could conceivably constitute a riot...


A laugh riot, anyway... :ahem:

When I was more of a liberal, one thing that always made embarrassed was the protests...

Even on the things that I side with the left on, they still embarrass me with their rhetoric.:ahem:

[Teallaura]

Ironically, the best arguments I find for women in the ministry are written by men. Most of the stuff written by women is embarrassing...

:sigh:

[nickcopernicus]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a governor out of Arkansas came out of nowhere to beat Hilary and become President?

Michael
Nick:
Yes. It would also be ironic if I made a perpetual motion machine......but neither seems likely.

Cheers,

Nick

[historic salve]

I hate living in Iowa for the most part, but election stuff is electrifying. In the last week I have met both Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney (they love talking to college kids :ahem: ), and in the last 6 months I've at least said "hi" to Ron Paul(had dinner with him), Hillary/Bill Clinton, Romney, Hunter, Thompson, Obama, and Beyonce Knowles.

Anyway, here are the latest numbers:

Huckabee: 29%
Romney: 24%
Giuliani: 13%
Thompson: 9%
Ron Paul: 7%
McCain: 7%
Tancredo: 6%
Hunter: 1%

Source (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071201/NEWS09/71130037/-1/iowapoll07)
I think Romney is effectively out of the race. In all the national polls I've seen, he's been behind the other frontrunners and if he's still not ahead in the early states... It's a shame in some ways, but in others I'm glad he's not gaining ground. I think he would be reviled as the conservative flip-flopper if he won the nomination.

[historic salve]

If Huckabee tries to diffuse abortion federally then he might as well be pro-choice. Making it the state's decision will get it done light years faster.
It will also mean that people who want to abort can just walk over their state line. :ahem: Not good enough if the fetus is a person. Constitutionally, life has to be a federal issue, not a state issue.

[$cirisme]

I hate living in Iowa for the most part, but election stuff is electrifying. In the last week I have met both Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney (they love talking to college kids :ahem: ), and in the last 6 months I've at least said "hi" to Ron Paul(had dinner with him), Hillary/Bill Clinton, Romney, Hunter, Thompson, Obama, and Beyonce Knowles.

Anyway, here are the latest numbers:

Huckabee: 29%
Romney: 24%
Giuliani: 13%
Thompson: 9%
Ron Paul: 7%
McCain: 7%
Tancredo: 6%
Hunter: 1%

Source (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071201/NEWS09/71130037/-1/iowapoll07)
Hey, anybody but Giuliani. I don't much care for Hillary, but I'd vote for her in a heartbeat if it was her vs. Giuliani. I really detest that human gasbag.

[Timothy Leary]

Ironically, the best arguments I find for women in the ministry are written by men. Most of the stuff written by women is embarrassing...

:sigh:

I think all the men will agree with you :lol:

[decoski]

It's amazing what Chuck Norris can do.

A girl I dated in high school has a sister who is married to the brother of Chuck's wife.

[decoski]

Hey, anybody but Giuliani. I don't much care for Hillary, but I'd vote for her in a heartbeat if it was her vs. Giuliani. I really detest that human gasbag.

I despise the woman, but I still wouldn't vote for Guiliani. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.

[$cirisme]

I despise the woman, but I still wouldn't vote for Guiliani. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.
I don't think of Hillary as at all evil. Terribly out of touch with my politics, yes. Evil, no.

On the other had, Giuliani is pure evil. Like I said, I can't stand that stupid gasbag and I'm hopeful his decline is permanent. I'm not much of a fan of Huckabee, but he's second best to Paul.

[Philosophickle]

I don't think of Hillary as at all evil. Terribly out of touch with my politics, yes. Evil, no.

On the other had, Giuliani is pure evil. Like I said, I can't stand that stupid gasbag and I'm hopeful his decline is permanent. I'm not much of a fan of Huckabee, but he's second best to Paul.

In related news, Paul was extended the offer (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/017570.html) of nominee of the Libertarian Party.

[Jackie Fox]

Ironically, the best arguments I find for women in the ministry are written by men. Most of the stuff written by women is embarrassing...

:sigh:

Never read Virginia Ramey Mollenkott (spelled?)?

[Jackie Fox]

Bloodshed we got in droves already. At least it wouldn't be the babies that were dying.

It's not in the present reality either.

[Jackie Fox]

I think Romney is effectively out of the race. In all the national polls I've seen, he's been behind the other frontrunners and if he's still not ahead in the early states... It's a shame in some ways, but in others I'm glad he's not gaining ground. I think he would be reviled as the conservative flip-flopper if he won the nomination.

The "Kennedyesque" speech was a flop, or so it seems to me. Romney is being criticized for excluding nonthiests, including by Peggy noonan, from among his vision of good citizens, and the right wing evangelicals are upset he didn't discuss Mormon theology. Of course they would have been upset too if he did and said "this is what I believe" so he was just prudent.

Kennedy spoke before a hostile audience and stood firm for separation of church and state. Romney spoke before a hand-picked audience and stood firmly for entangling church and state.

He would however make a good U.S. Trade Representative, but I don't this his party's nominee is going to be the one picking the cabinet.

[Jackie Fox]

It will also mean that people who want to abort can just walk over their state line. :ahem: Not good enough if the fetus is a person. Constitutionally, life has to be a federal issue, not a state issue.

It'd be the only possible result if Roe is overturned. And even if done people will be driven across state lines and any attempts to stop them will not succeed.

You anti-abort guys are like Chicago Cubs fans.

[Jackie Fox]

I don't think of Hillary as at all evil. Terribly out of touch with my politics, yes. Evil, no.

On the other had, Giuliani is pure evil. Like I said, I can't stand that stupid gasbag and I'm hopeful his decline is permanent. I'm not much of a fan of Huckabee, but he's second best to Paul.

Don't call Rudy Rudy; call him "America's Playa". And his scandal is "Sex On The City".

Are you aware yet of Huck's complicity in releasing a convicted rapist who raped and killed a woman in Missouri? The Clinton Haters convinced him Clinton kept the guy locked up because the victim was President Clinton's cousin.

[Jackie Fox]

In related news, Paul was extended the offer (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/017570.html) of nominee of the Libertarian Party.

That and $3.95 will buy him a latte.

[historic salve]

It'd be the only possible result if Roe is overturned.
That depends on the argument presented in whichever future court case may overturn Roe v. Wade.

[JonLanceBarker]

Jackie: "rant rant rant rant rant...:rant:"

we'll see you in anger management. :thumb:

[Philosophickle]

Ha!

[Jackie Fox]

That depends on the argument presented in whichever future court case may overturn Roe v. Wade.

Well, put it this way, federal prohibition of abortion in general is not going to happen unless there's a massive change in things and that's unlikely. It is doubtful any possible case up for review by the Supreme Court would have such a result.

[Jackie Fox]

Jackie: "rant rant rant rant rant...:rant:"

we'll see you in anger management. :thumb:

No argument from you. BTW, I don't have ulcers, I give 'em.

[Jackie Fox]

Ha!

Nice shot at humor but Ron Paul's a Lutheran who has 2 brothers who're Lutheran Pastors. If there's a Catholic out there wanting to vote for a Lutheran out of sectarian reasons it's a new thing.

[JonLanceBarker]

No argument from you.

well at least you're self-conscious. :teeth:

BTW, I don't have ulcers, I give 'em.

oh, ah'm shakin' in mah boots. :hehe:

i'm not worried in the least. your debate thread with Nick is hilarious. :teeth:

[Jackie Fox]

well at least you're self-conscious. :teeth:



oh, ah'm shakin' in mah boots. :hehe:

i'm not worried in the least. your debate thread with Nick is hilarious. :teeth:

It would be better if he offered some decent arguments.

[JonLanceBarker]

:lmbo: i meant it was hilarious on YOUR end.

It would be better if he offered some decent arguments.

:twitch: you might want to try READING them. their quality might surprise you.

[Teallaura]

She'd have to learn to read... :no:

Of course, that might facilitate her actually going to law school... :cs:

[Jackie Fox]

:lmbo: i meant it was hilarious on YOUR end.



:twitch: you might want to try READING them. their quality might surprise you.

It dd. I was surprised how bad it was.

[Jackie Fox]

She'd have to learn to read... :no:

Of course, that might facilitate her actually going to law school... :cs:

Listen, troll, I do not care what you think of my education. It's obvious you may be the samrtest female in your little fundie church but that ain't sayin' much. You keep saying that because you have nothing else to offer and like the base sychopant you are, you only seek to attack the interloper to fit in with the crowd in your sad, scared little world. Your contributions here are utterly useless except to show what a pathetic little conformist you are.

[JonLanceBarker]

Listen, troll, I do not care what you think of my education. It's obvious you may be the samrtest female in your little fundie church but that ain't sayin' much. You keep saying that because you have nothing else to offer and like the base sychopant you are, you only seek to attack the interloper to fit in with the crowd in your sad, scared little world. Your contributions here are utterly useless except to show what a pathetic little conformist you are.

i rest my case. :lolo:

[Teallaura]

Listen, troll, I do not care what you think of my education. It's obvious you may be the samrtest female in your little fundie church but that ain't sayin' much. You keep saying that because you have nothing else to offer and like the base sychopant you are, you only seek to attack the interloper to fit in with the crowd in your sad, scared little world. Your contributions here are utterly useless except to show what a pathetic little conformist you are.

:blah: Suuuure you don't - that would explain your lil' rant there... :no:

You're not a lawyer and you're not from Alabama. Why don't you just admit it? Real attorneys don't make the idiotic mistakes you do. Real Alabamians don't have to look up Winton Blount on Wiki like you did.

[Jackie Fox]

:blah: Suuuure you don't - that would explain your lil' rant there... :no:

You're not a lawyer and you're not from Alabama. Why don't you just admit it? Real attorneys don't make the idiotic mistakes you do. Real Alabamians don't have to look up Winton Blount on Wiki like you did.

Winton Blount was a scumbag. He is worth noting as an Alabaman in the same manner as Bonnie and Clyde Parker are representative of Texas. You, on the other hand, have no idea who Hank Williams Sr. was. You are of the same cloth as Blount, and it is pure woven fibrous excrement. You have no argument. You are a useless troll who contributes nothing here. You and your clicque, and scum like the Blounts, will eventually serve as fetilizer since you serve no good otherwise.

[Bill the Cat]

You are a useless troll who contributes nothing here.

And you have a following??? :rofl:

[Teallaura]

Yup, I do know who Hank Williams, Sr is - I even used to know all the words to 'Your Cheatin' Heart'. I've been to the museum - I love Union Station. Bet you've never been to his grave site - or can name the cemetery without using Wiki.

You aren't an Alabamian - you didn't know who he was without looking it up. Maybe someone who wasn't very politically active might not know the name but an attorney? Not hardly. You're a fake - plain and simple. You just haven't got the guts to admit it.


"Your cheatin' heart will tell on you... :whistle:"

[Paintbucket]

I was watching the news this morning, and one guy talking about the Democrats said something along these lines. "If Hillary wins Iowa, then she has a virtual lock on the nomination because she leads New Hampshire and other early primaries. If Edwards/Obama wins, then they have a great shot to win it all and Hillary will take a big hit." Hopefully, someone will tell me that I'm not interpreting this right. If this is really the way it is, then why don't we just let the state of Iowa vote for the president? After all, Iowa is the biggest state in the union, and they have far more people than all of the rest of the states combined...

[Teallaura]

The assumption is that because the primaries are so closely rammed together this year the 'momentum' coming out of Iowa will be extremely difficult for a runner up to counter. Personally, I think all bets are off. States long written off because they are so far down the primary schedule are coming into play. Super Tuesday will indeed be make or break but the dynamic is so new that I think it's foolishness to make any hard and fast predictions from Iowa or any other state.

If it makes you feel better the cold weather will probably hurt Hillary - her base is older women who aren't as likely to brave the cold. Could help Obama. Not sure on Edwards.

Just buy some popcorn and curl up to watch the returns - this should be fun.

[Paintbucket]

I'm not a Hillary fan. I really don't like her. I have no problem with a woman president, but not her. Personally, I support Obama and I'm old enough to vote and can do so. However, I want to be able to have a say, and I don't want the two biggest states in America of Iowa and New Hampshire to eat up my vote. Hopefully, you're right and this will be a different year.

[Bill the Cat]

Sorry. I can't stand her or her politics. I think she'd be the absolute worst thing for our country.

I'll delete my post

[Teallaura]

No prob - I don't like her either.

[Philosophickle]

I live in Iowa, and Ron Paul fans are insane. I kid you not, there are a group of university students here from California campaigning for Paul outside, and they are not wearing shorts. It is negative 20 here with the wind chill.

[JonLanceBarker]

I live in Iowa, and Ron Paul fans are insane. I kid you not, there are a group of university students here from California campaigning for Paul outside, and they are not wearing shorts. It is negative 20 here with the wind chill.

:eww:

[Philosophickle]

:eww:

Wow, what a mistype. I meant only wearing shorts, and not wearing shirts.
My bad.
:eek:

[JonLanceBarker]

Wow, what a mistype. I meant only wearing shorts, and not wearing shirts.
My bad.
:eek:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Tickle Me Mercury]

Wow, what a mistype. I meant only wearing shorts, and not wearing shirts.
My bad.
:eek:

When I first read that post my thoughts were, "my, isn't that sensible of them? I'm lucky to count myself among such a reasonable group."

[Philosophickle]

When I first read that post my thoughts were, "my, isn't that sensible of them? I'm lucky to count myself among such a reasonable group."

One hour until the magic starts.

[Teallaura]

Cold is evil.

[JonLanceBarker]

One hour until the magic starts.

:lmbo: :lmbo: :lmbo:

[TyRockwell]

Is it any less sane to not wear shirts, as opposed to not wearing shorts?

[JonLanceBarker]

Is it any less sane to not wear shirts, as opposed to not wearing shorts?

does it matter? :hehe:

[TyRockwell]

does it matter?

Go, Fred Thompson! Third place!

[JonLanceBarker]

well, "not wearing shorts" leaves room for wearing pants. :smile:

[TyRockwell]

well, "not wearing shorts" leaves room for wearing pants.

or so we hope! :hehe:

[JonLanceBarker]

so Ty...is fred thompson somehow eschatologically significant for your hypothesis? :hehe:

[Philosophickle]

Ok, just got back. My precinct, about 300 people, voted:

1. McCain 30%
2. Huckster 25%
3. Romney 23%
4. Paul 20%
5. Guliani/Thompson 1%

[Meta Knight]

Word on the street is Hillary and Obama were pretty close so far, and Huckabee was winning on the Republican side. That the case?

[Philosophickle]

Word on the street is Hillary and Obama were pretty close so far, and Huckabee was winning on the Republican side. That the case?

Right now Obama is at 36%, and Hillary and Edwards are at about 30%.
This is very, very close.

[JonLanceBarker]

my dad just looked online and told me Huckabee and Obama both won. :b_dance: (that's for the Huck, by the way.)

[Philosophickle]

my dad just looked online and told me Huckbee and Obama both won. :b_dance: (that's for the Huck, by the way.)

Only 65% of precincts have reported for the Republican polls.
Huckleberry will probably win, but it is going to be so close that this matter will inevitably draw out into New Hampshire and beyond (where cHuckles will lose).

[TyRockwell]

so Ty...is fred thompson somehow eschatologically significant for your hypothesis?

No

[Pilgrim]

Barack wins by a significant margin it looks like with Hillary losing to Edwards by a biscuit.

[Philosophickle]

Barack wins by a significant margin it looks like with Hillary losing to Edwards by a biscuit.

Not good for Hillary.

[JonLanceBarker]

Only 65% of precincts have reported for the Republican polls.
Huckleberry will probably win, but it is going to be so close that this matter will inevitably draw out into New Hampshire and beyond (where cHuckles will lose).

i wouldn't be so sure about that last bit. :whistle:

[TyRockwell]

Barack wins by a significant margin it looks like with Hillary losing to Edwards by a biscuit

Always a good thing when a Clinton loses!

[Paintbucket]

Well, my man won the Democrat nomination, and my anti-vote finished third in the Dem nomination. Hopefully, that'll continue. I think Chuck Norris scared all the Republicans away for Huckabee.

[historic salve]

Only 65% of precincts have reported for the Republican polls.
"Only"? 65% was more than enough to predict that his large margin would hold...

Huckleberry will probably win, but it is going to be so close that this matter will inevitably draw out into New Hampshire and beyond (where cHuckles will lose).
...and it did. 93% of precincts have now been reported for Republican pollsters and Huckabee is 9 points ahead of Romney.

I predict a win for McCain in NH, with Romney in second.

[Jackie Fox]

Yup, I do know who Hank Williams, Sr is - I even used to know all the words to 'Your Cheatin' Heart'. I've been to the museum - I love Union Station. Bet you've never been to his grave site - or can name the cemetery without using Wiki.

No, I haven't been.

You aren't an Alabamian - you didn't know who he was without looking it up. Maybe someone who wasn't very politically active might not know the name but an attorney? Not hardly. You're a fake - plain and simple. You just haven't got the guts to admit it.

In this community my behavior is excellent compared to yours and your little faction of sad, scared, angry American talibanists. I refuse to be cowed by big mouths like yours and will continue to defeat you and your evil gang at every turn. You lose every time you resort to your lack of argument here and prove your impotence.

[Teallaura]

:baby:

Babe, if you had an argument it'd get eaten alive like all the rest of your bad excuses for argumentation. You couldn't win an argument if you actually were right because you argue so badly.

Get off the high horse, Babe - your nose is bleeding.

:no:


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The real test is Feb 5 - and it's gonna be a lulu. Iowa and NH have been tough calls - Super Tuesday is impossible. All bets are off until then.

[Jackie Fox]

:baby:

Babe, if you had an argument it'd get eaten alive like all the rest of your bad excuses for argumentation. You couldn't win an argument if you actually were right because you argue so badly.

Get off the high horse, Babe - your nose is bleeding.

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The real test is Feb 5 - and it's gonna be a lulu. Iowa and NH have been tough calls - Super Tuesday is impossible. All bets are off until then.\

I ain't your "babe," troll. You cannot argue your way out of an empty flapping plastic bag because you are nothing but a scared conformist so anxious to fit in with the other extremists here. If you sat in a bucket of gasoline and lit a match you'd be doing the world a favor.

Don't be an abusive bully.

[Paintbucket]

So much love here... I thought this was a religion of love and peace.

[Tickle Me Mercury]

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This is your argument? Making grand claims about how great your arguments would be if you made them?

Any eloquent words to offer on the Iowa Caucus?

[JonLanceBarker]

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stick it where it'll do some good, jumpin' jackie.
you're pretty new here and obviously don't know what the lay of the land is...so why don't you find somewhere else to rant impotently? :smile:

[Jackie Fox]

This is your argument? Making grand claims about how great your arguments would be if you made them?

Better than that whiny Rum Tum Sugger.

Any eloquent words to offer on the Iowa Caucus?

Its winners offer people a choice between hope and fear. Thanks for asking.

[mossrose]

In this community my behavior is excellent compared to yours and your little faction of sad, scared, angry American talibanists.

:whew:

I guess I dodged THAT bullet!



I refuse to be cowed by big mouths like yours and will continue to defeat you and your evil gang at every turn. You lose every time you resort to your lack of argument here and prove your impotence.

:lmbo:

[Bill the Cat]

Its winners offer people a choice between hope and fear. Thanks for asking.

Yeah, HOPING the Republican candidate wins against the "I hate Bush" FEAR platform of the Dems.

[Teallaura]

I just read something interesting. It seems Clinton lost the election but got 14 delegates out of the deal with Obama only getting 15 (could be 18 - not looking at it right now). All told Clinton has 180 delegates locked in compared to Obama's 80.

She may well have an edge in super delegates as well - that's not a good thing for Obama. He may have a problem in his own party.

[Jackie Fox]

Yeah, HOPING the Republican candidate wins against the "I hate Bush" FEAR platform of the Dems.

There's one thing pols do to motivate the base and another to win the undecideds.

[Jackie Fox]

I just read something interesting. It seems Clinton lost the election but got 14 delegates out of the deal with Obama only getting 15 (could be 18 - not looking at it right now). All told Clinton has 180 delegates locked in compared to Obama's 80.

She may well have an edge in super delegates as well - that's not a good thing for Obama. He may have a problem in his own party.

Every insurgent does including the one Obama is most compared to, John Kennedy.

[JonLanceBarker]

Every insurgent does including the one Obama is most compared to, John Kennedy.

and look what happened to him. :egad:

[Tickle Me Mercury]

Listen, troll, I do not care what you think of my education. It's obvious you may be the samrtest female in your little fundie church but that ain't sayin' much. You keep saying that because you have nothing else to offer and like the base sychopant you are, you only seek to attack the interloper to fit in with the crowd in your sad, scared little world. Your contributions here are utterly useless except to show what a pathetic little conformist you are.

Wait, Teal's the follower? Who's standards has she been compromising her personality to meet?

Teal: I had this all wrong, I can't be your sycophant any more. I'd say I was sorry, but I don't feel the obligation to suck-up any more.

[Teallaura]

Silly boy - I'm just being yes man for the higher ups - gotta keep in good with the oranges. I can write you off my sycophant list and start treating you like the peon you are.

One point or two? :grin:



:doh: Oh wait, I'm only supposed to be mercilessly partisan and unfair with Jackie - I'll have to beat you up for abandoning me next week....

[Jackie Fox]

and look what happened to him. :egad:

Kennedy toyed with forces he couldn't control. Obama might or might not, if elected.

Of course neither were or are trusted by ideologues and in both cases with good reason.