Any Suggestions For Losing 12 Pounds?

[mrsnacks]

I want to lose 12 - 15 pounds. It's amazing how quickly one can put on weight. Before you can say' Jackie Robinson 'your pants are too tight.

I have heard of the diets and supplements that claim to take the weight away. From Herbalife, Thermogenics, Jenny Craig, Fat Burners, and many others. I want to hear from you out there. What has worked for you and why ?

I have heard jump roping is superior to walking or running. someone told me about the trampoline . Jumping on it daily helps you lose weight.
So what has worked for you ? The important thing is to keep it off. Just 12 pounds will make me happier than a dog with two tails. HELP !

[Bill the Cat]

There's that new diet where you sever a leg or arm... It's called Limb Fast... :sigh:

[mrsnacks]

Have you tried it ? :rofl:

[bar Jonah]

It's just a wacky, crazy thought, but.....

1. Consume fewer calories
2. Exercise more.

Funny how this NEVER, EVER, EVER FAILS to take off pounds. I lost 4 lbs a week for a month and a half by doing this, and I wasn't even doing anything extreme. Seriously. It's basic math. Consume fewer calories. Burn more calories. Bada bing, bada boom. :rithumb:

[AVmetro]

Today @ 01:52 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=217241#post217241)
RightIdea:

It's just a wacky, crazy thought, but.....

1. Consume fewer calories
2. Exercise more.

Old wive's tales, when will they ever stop circulating... :no:

[AVmetro]

Yesterday @ 11:05 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=217192#post217192)
mrsnacks:

I want to lose 12 - 15 pounds. It's amazing how quickly one can put on weight. Before you can say' Jackie Robinson 'your pants are too tight.

I have heard of the diets and supplements that claim to take the weight away. From Herbalife, Thermogenics, Jenny Craig, Fat Burners, and many others. I want to hear from you out there. What has worked for you and why ?

I have heard jump roping is superior to walking or running. someone told me about the trampoline . Jumping on it daily helps you lose weight.
So what has worked for you ? The important thing is to keep it off. Just 12 pounds will make me happier than a dog with two tails. HELP !

Do something active that you enjoy and can stick with 20-30 minutes a day. Like Biking or walking. Most people don't want to do 50 pushups but everyone likes to ride a bike (I think).

[RC]

The Atkin's Diet. It has answered its critics.

[themuzicman]

I hear your head weighs about 10 pounds... :bonk:

[BeHereNow]

Although the idea of eating only meat seems so ghastly, I have heard good things about Atkins' diet. I'd probably go with RightIdea's suggestion, though.

[bar Jonah]

RCPennington:
The Atkin's Diet. It has answered its critics.
Yep, as long as you get your veggies. Some people put away veggies entirely, either temporarily or permanently. Dangerous.

[Jade]

I've been on the Atkins diet since late June and I've lost 28 pounds so far; I've got another 50 to loose. It's a very healthy way of eating. My blood pressure has even gone back to normal.


Yesterday @ 11:29 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=217954#post217954)
RightIdea:


Yep, as long as you get your veggies. Some people put away veggies entirely, either temporarily or permanently. Dangerous.

The folks at The Atkins Foundation stress eating 20 carbs per day of veggies in the beginning of the diet. Then in the second stage, adding nuts to the adding carbs (such as nuts, berries, and legumes) back by increments of 5 until the weight loss slows and then once target weight is acheived adding more carbs (such as higher carb fruits, and potatoes) until weight loss is stopped entirely. Then you maintain the new way of eating so that weight is not gained back.

To that you add exercise 3-5 times per week, and daily vitamin Supplements, and you have the complete plan that Dr. Atkins laid out.

[bar Jonah]

That's good to know... because almost every person I've talked to in person about the Atkins program are under the impression that vegetables are hardly necessary at all, that they somehow get most of their vitamins from meat. Several of them believe they are supposed to stop eating vegetables entirely in the first 6 to 8 weeks of the diet. Some others believe vegetables are just always barely important. Sounds like they didn't know what they were talking about.

You mention vitamin supplements, though. If you are eating enough vegetables, eating in a way that is more natural for the human body, why would you need this?

[Thomas2003]

You mention vitamin supplements, though. If you are eating enough vegetables, eating in a way that is more natural for the human body, why would you need this?

Because most food is processed or genetically modified and vitamin deficient.

[bar Jonah]

Thomas2003:
Because most food is processed or genetically modified and vitamin deficient.
Then, if you on a diet to allegedly eat more healthy and partake of a diet that is more natural for the human body... why would you be eating so much processed food deficient of vital nutrition? :huh:

[kafka]

i lost 16 lbs. once.


...I sold a bowling ball. :{)}

[Jade]

RightIdea:

Then, if you on a diet to allegedly eat more healthy and partake of a diet that is more natural for the human body... why would you be eating so much processed food deficient of vital nutrition? :huh:

1) Sometimes, It's hard to eat enough to get all the vitamins you need in a day -- you're apt to get full first. Although, most people would do just fine on Atkins without the supplements (a little extra of the vitamins found in a multi-vitamin (sans iron) is just an extra boost.

2) Some people don't absorb vitamins as well as others and thus need a bit more.

3) If your taking a daily supplement, a little extra of certain vitamins help boost metabolism, plus if you cheat on the diet on a particular day but continue the supplement, it makes it easier to get back on track.

Bonus-slightly-off-topic: If you correctly follow the Atkins diet -- it is not something you go on and then go off when you get to your target weight. It really is designed to become a new way of eating for the rest of your life that caters to where you are on that path (gets more and more lax to a point until you reach your target weight)

(Yeah I know: I'll climb down from my soap box now :solly:)

[mrsnacks]

Well it sounds like I may try the ADKINS DIET. So what do I eat ? I 'm traveling on tour for 3 weeks. I've decided to start my diet next week.

Can't I just pray the pounds off ? Isn't it God's will that we all look and feel good physically so isn't the " God remove the excess pounds" prayer in accord with God's will ? Charismatics- -where are you ?
:cheers:

[Bill the Cat]

Hey snacks:

1. I'm a charismatic and I don't think you can pray the pounds off. That's why we have so many worn out pews (mine included:lol:)

2. With a screen name like yours, you might as well not try :lmbo:

3. Cut out sweets, pastas, and potatoes... and exercise.

[Jade]

Today @ 07:05 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=221718#post221718)
Bill the Cat:

3. Cut out sweets, pastas, and potatoes... and exercise.

No, don't cut out the exercise. :wink:

Well it sounds like I may try the ADKINS DIET. So what do I eat ?

Here is the short version of what Atkins is all about. If you want the long version, read, "Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution" :smile:

First two weeks (induction):
Limit yourself to 20 grams of net carbohydrates* daily. Natural, unprocessed, nutrient-dense carbohydrates are best. Get the best bang for your buck so to speak. Celery, cucumbers, lettuce, radishes, mushrooms, romaine, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, snow peas, (well you get the idea) are good choices. (Watch out for carrots and other starchy veggies during the first two weeks as they are a higher carb veggies. You'll be able to add them back later) Then eat until content of meat, cheeses, and eggs. You can choose from all types of fish, fowl, shellfish, meat, and eggs, but limit cheese to 4 ounces per day. Take a daily multivitamin that does not have iron in it. And don’t forget to drink water; your body needs at least 8 cups per day. Any and all spices are acceptable so long as sugar is not added to the spice. Also fats and oils are acceptable such as butter, olive oil, mayonnaise, and any oil that is liquid at room temperature. Avoid hydrogenated oils and Trans fats (i.e. margarine).

Also if you're hungry 2 hours later, by all means grab yourself a snack. Atkins is not about going hungry. Don't eat until you are stuffed; just eat until you're not hungry any more.

You may feel an energy loss on the second day but it will return on the 3rd or 4th day. It can be worse if you go off caffeine at the same time. After your energy resumes, begin exercising 30 minutes 3 times per week and build up to 45 minutes 5 times per week. The foods you eat will increase your stamina.

(*Counting carbs: Take the total carbs listed on the label and subtract any fiber, glycerin, or sugar alcohol. The result is called “Net Carbohydrates”)

Second Stage (Ongoing Weight Loss):
After the first two weeks (one can stay on Induction longer if they have a lot to loose), begin adding back carbs at a rate of 5 extra carbs per week until your weight loss slows down to 1 pound per week. During this second stage (Ongoing Weight Loss), you can add nuts, berries, melons, and possibly legumes. You can also add wine and other low carb spirits if you wish to. Note: Alcohol (and Alcohol sugars found in sugar free chocolates) can halt weight loss due to the way it is metabolized, but it doesn’t spike blood sugar the way sugar carbs do.

Cheating: You can cheat from time to time without too much of a backlash. However, make it as brief as possible and get back on. And don’t let cheating become a habit. Holidays would be a understandable reason for a cheat day. Let’s say Thanksgiving is approaching (as it is) and you know there’s going to be a large meal served with lots of high carb foods and desserts. You can minimize the impact that dinner will have by reducing your carb intake for a few days prior.


Third Stage (Pre-Maintenance):
When you get within 5 pounds of your target weight you begin the third stage (Pre-Maintenance) Continue adding carbs (by 5 gram increments) until you notice you you've gained a pound, and then cut back by 5. That number of carbs is your limit for maintaining. So long as you don't go over this number in a day you shouldn't gain weight. During this stage you can add other fruits (in addition to the berries and melons you’ve already added), starchy vegetables (possibly an occasional potato), and whole grains.

Fourth Stage (Lifetime Maintenance):
When you've found your limit then you begin the 4th stage. This is designed to continue for the rest of your life. It will allow you to maintain your weight loss. Continue designing your meals and snacks around meat, cheeses, and eggs and supplementing with vegetables, nuts & berries, fruit, legumes, whole grains and the occasional potato. The previous 3 stages will produce healthy eating habits and help you keep the weight off. Following the total Atkins Diet (including exercise and multivitamin) will help in preventing heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, and other weight related diseases too.

mrsnacks, I wish you the best in your travels and in your weight loss. :smile:

[themuzicman]

Don't neglect fiber carbs (Which you don't have to count in your daily total, BTW!)

Michael

[bar Jonah]

Bill the Cat:
1. I'm a charismatic and I don't think you can pray the pounds off. That's why we have so many worn out pews (mine included:lol:)

The Charismatic aerobics program, however.... :riwink:

[AVmetro]

I've been trying the low-carb thing for a few days now. Man do I miss my (very high-carb) fruit!

Too....many...meat and.....eggs.....

(* ! I can't find my puke smilie!)

[themuzicman]

Here you go:



(I used to take roast beef slices and put cheddar cheese on it, roll it up and heat in the microwave. It's a nice change of pace.)

DON'T FORGET YOUR FIBER!

[AVmetro]

themuzicman:

Don't neglect fiber carbs (Which you don't have to count in your daily total, BTW!)

Michael

You mean you can eat as MANY as you want and not gain the weight? What are some examples?


Wow, three of my custom smilies have been made standard...:cwink: Room for more!

:haha: :ha: :violin: :bore: :fencing: :sword:

[Jade]

themuzicman:

Don't neglect fiber carbs (Which you don't have to count in your daily total, BTW!)

Michael

AVMetro:

You mean you can eat as MANY as you want and not gain the weight? What are some examples?

Take the total carb content and subtract the fiber, glycerin, & any sugar alcohols in the item: The result is Net Carbs. This number will go toward your daily limit.

As for foods with fiber content. Atkins Advantage Bars have high fiber in them. Spinach also has a few grams of fiber. Some of the other low carb veggies might as well, although off hand, I don't recall which ones.


Wow, three of my custom smilies have been made standard...:cwink: Room for more!

:haha: :ha: :violin: :bore: :fencing: :sword:

[AVmetro]

What kind of fruit can you eat that has very few carbs? Everything I look at has a ton.

[Timothy]

It seems like the trouble with being ON a diet is that it assumes that one day you will be OFF the diet, after the weight goal is OFF. OK, But then the weight just goes back ON, the diet goes back ON. So don't go on a diet.

Try eating right and exercising about 30 minutes a day. Walking is OK. Snacks are your friends, just don't overdo it, eat small meals, and try to lose the weight slowly. That way you will develop good habits and the weight will stay off.

Tim

[AVmetro]

Hey, my belt is looser :rsmile:. Since I started the Atkins-esque thing.

Tim is right though. If you don't get into a good eating habit, it'll just pile right back on. :pile:

[mrsnacks]

Well, I mentioned i was going on a 3 week business trip. I wil return home in 4 days. I have failed at losing any weight on my trip. I had a per diem account which allowed me to eat at the finest restaurants and I took advantage of the generous offer. My meal last night was an 18 ounce filet mignon steak priced at $40.00 . the potatoes and asparagus was an additional $15. I ate like a christian pig. The other days I ate Italian, Chinese, and Japanese. All the restaurants were first class and I tried to resist , but failed miserably. I ordered hot apple pie ala mode at around midnight a few nights ago. So I return home with a few extra pounds. After returning home I will be in and out of town till at least the middle of January. So now what do I do ? :huh:

[Timothy]

Gee, it seems like you are doing everything right. Maybe you just have big bones.

Why lose the weight? Why not just enjoy food, enjoy life, enjoy yourself the way you are?

Tim

[AVmetro]

mrsnacks:

Well, I mentioned i was going on a 3 week business trip. I wil return home in 4 days. I have failed at losing any weight on my trip. I had a per diem account which allowed me to eat at the finest restaurants and I took advantage of the generous offer. My meal last night was an 18 ounce filet mignon steak priced at $40.00 . the potatoes and asparagus was an additional $15. I ate like a christian pig. The other days I ate Italian, Chinese, and Japanese. All the restaurants were first class and I tried to resist , but failed miserably. I ordered hot apple pie ala mode at around midnight a few nights ago. So I return home with a few extra pounds. After returning home I will be in and out of town till at least the middle of January. So now what do I do ? :huh:

I don't blame you! Give me open season on food like that and it's on!

Actually, the meat probably wouldn't be bad if you were doing the Atkins thing. It's the pasta, sugar and all that that's bad.

[AVmetro]

Whoo hoo! 2 1/2 months on Atkins and I've lost 40lbs! :fight:

[AVmetro]

Okay, now that I look at the dates, more like 2 months. :ack:

[Undomiel]

Some of the things I've noticed when reading:

Celery burns more calories than it contains.
Broccoli without toppings.
Grapefruit.

The quickest calorie burning activity known to medical science is shivering. However, it burns calories so quickly, it lowers your immunities via physical exhaustion. So not a good idea. But if you live in a cold climate, and are not susceptible to infections, flus, etc, you could run outside in your bathing suit, stand there for a couple minutes, and run back in, and repeat this a couple of times a day. :toothie:

One diet I was on that was pretty good was also fairly simple:

Bowl of oatmeal and one slice of toast for breakfast.

Tomato juice with a lemon squeeze and pepper on top.
One string cheese. For lunch.

A sandwich and a cup of cottage cheese and another glass of tomato juice for dinner. Strawberry or raspberry yogurt for desert.

After drinking the tomato juice at lunch time, wait 30 minutes and run in place for 3 mintues, and do 15 minutes of any other exercise.

Lost about 20 lbs that way in a two week period.

[AVmetro]

Lost about 20 lbs that way in a two week period.

No joke?

[bar Jonah]

Undomiel:One diet I was on that was pretty good was also fairly simple:

Bowl of oatmeal and one slice of toast for breakfast.

Tomato juice with a lemon squeeze and pepper on top.
One string cheese. For lunch.

A sandwich and a cup of cottage cheese and another glass of tomato juice for dinner. Strawberry or raspberry yogurt for desert.

After drinking the tomato juice at lunch time, wait 30 minutes and run in place for 3 mintues, and do 15 minutes of any other exercise.

Lost about 20 lbs that way in a two week period.
And you put yourself at risk for nutritional malnourishment. So few calories for that length of time, and almost no vitamins and minerals... With all due respect, doctors warn people against extremely dangerous diets along those lines all the time. Weight can be lost that way, but it's not healthy loss, by far, according to every doctor I've heard talk about such diets.

[Undomiel]

Today @ 04:05 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=339945#post339945)
AVmetro:

Lost about 20 lbs that way in a two week period.

No joke?

No joke. It has to be old-fashioned 5 minute oatmeal though. And only one pad [1/2 teaspoon] of butter on the toast. The dinner sandwich should have a healthy meat on it, like chicken, turkey or fish, no greasy gooey drippy stuff. :D

[Undomiel]

Today @ 04:06 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=339946#post339946)
RightIdea:


And you put yourself at risk for nutritional malnourishment. So few calories for that length of time, and almost no vitamins and minerals... With all due respect, doctors warn people against extremely dangerous diets along those lines all the time. Weight can be lost that way, but it's not healthy loss, by far, according to every doctor I've heard talk about such diets.

Errm, no, I've lived on oatmeal alone before. Oatmeal is very nutritious and it's your first meal of the day. The only really small meal, nutrionally-speaking, is lunch time. Dinner is fairly generous and even includes desert. :fruity:

[Undomiel]

(Addendum: The weight loss stemmed moreso from the tomato juice/exercise combination at the lunch meal, than the lack of nutrition or calories. I don't remember now how it works, some kind of metabolic/chemical reaction.)

[AVmetro]

I think I'll stick with my greasy bacon and NY strip steaks (howbeit carb free!). I've added quite a few vegetables to my diet as I'm not really a big meat fan all of the time. :pffttongue: :puke:

I want to lose about 20-30 more pounds before I get off this diet. Then I'll simpy start eating more healthy.

I'm dying to get a bike! But it's winter now (:pffttongue:) and it's too cold to get out and do much. I still try to stick to my walks.

[Undomiel]

K, just remember oatmeal is one of the most complete foods. Check out this nutritional chart on it:

[AVmetro]

Yeah, you're right. So give us your recipe for the oatmeal you used. :brow:

[bar Jonah]

But that doesn't change the almost universally-agreed principle that it is jsut flat out dangerous to lose that weight in that short a time, regardless of method.

[AVmetro]

RightIdea:

But that doesn't change the almost universally-agreed principle that it is jsut flat out dangerous to lose that weight in that short a time, regardless of method.

Yeah, I can see that too. Maybe if you upped the servings a good deal. Think it'd have the same effect?

-AV

[Undomiel]

I think why you lose so much is it almost immediately starts removing water weight, alot of water weight. The acid in the tomato juice starts a chain reaction that once you begin the aerobic running in place 30 mintues later, it speeds up your metabolism. I honestly wish I could remember all the details because that part of the diet was the most important feature of it.. It was the oddest diet I've ever seen and one of the only ones I've ever been on. You could also have another string cheese or another yogurt, if you were still hungry. Instead what I did was I added a pat of butter to my oatmeal and had an additional juice, like orange juice, with the morning meal or a half of an orange.

Oh yeah, and you could eat as much celery as you wanted. lol Well, duh. :D

[Dave G]

Lift some weights before running or riding a bike, the muscle you build will help burn the fat.

[AVmetro]

dmg_73072:

Lift some weights before running or riding a bike, the muscle you build will help burn the fat.

Uh...yeah, but that would take effort on our part :hrm: :lol:

[Dave G]

:lol:

[Undomiel]

Work? :eek:

[bar Jonah]

If it simply causes you to lose water weight, then it's only going to be very temporary, and will dehydrate you (possibly even dangerously so). And as soon as you get off the diet, the weight will be gained back rapidly, because your body will try to go back to its normal water weight.

Water isn't what you need to lose.

[Jade]

The best way to prove that you're losing fat and not water is taking messurements once a week. (Hips, waist, bust, and thighs) If you're loosing fat, you will see a drop in these measurements. Once you are near you target weight and if you are doing lots of working out (as opposed to just moderate exercise) then you may see an increase in some measurements as your muscles grow.

In my humble opinion exercise should be a part of any diet you participate in.

And further, Atkins is the best I've found. If you read his books, you'll understand the machanics of why the diet works and how the body metabolizes food in general. He strongly encourages healthy eating, exercise, encourages the use of vitanutrients (both in the foods we eat and in the form of supplements) in place of drugs (and vitanutrients are good for general good health too) that often carry serious side effects and overall just aren't all that good for the body (while at the same time, Atkins emphasizes that getting off medicines or reducing dosage should only be done under a physician's guidence). Dr Atkins diet also has a plan for lifelong eating of natural fruits, vegetables, meats, whole grains, dairy foods, and legumes, etc. But really it's just common sense eating. And it's also common sense that going back to junk foods will cause the weight to come back. If you want the weight to stay off, then obviously you can't go back to the way you were eating before your diet. Instead of a temporary diet, you should develop a real diet (A way of eating for life). Now, of course you don't want to continue to loose weight once you're down to where you want to be, but you do want to continue to eat foods that will fill you up without putting the pounds back on and that are healthy for you.

Processed foods, refined sugars, trans fats, and bleached flour should all be avoided as the body doesn't metabolize these items very well, and in the case of trans fats, can be downright harmful over the course of 40-50 years that most people consume them before it begins to take its toll in the form of Type II diabetes, heart disease, and obesity.

:hrm:

Now that I've just preached nearly a sermon's worth. I think I'll step down off my soap box, and get back on my diet (I'm just as guilty as the next when it comes to craving the sweets. :blush:)

[AVmetro]

I really have no desire to return to "regular" soft drinks (diet it fine now) or sweets for that matter. Sugar free candy as well as the atkins bars suffice in satisfying any of my cravings. The thins I MISS are bread, pasta and potatos.


Jade:

The best way to prove that you're losing fat and not water is taking messurements once a week. (Hips, waist, bust, and thighs) If you're loosing fat, you will see a drop in these measurements. Once you are near you target weight and if you are doing lots of working out (as opposed to just moderate exercise) then you may see an increase in some measurements as your muscles grow.

In my humble opinion exercise should be a part of any diet you participate in.

And further, Atkins is the best I've found. If you read his books, you'll understand the machanics of why the diet works and how the body metabolizes food in general. He strongly encourages healthy eating, exercise, encourages the use of vitanutrients (both in the foods we eat and in the form of supplements) in place of drugs (and vitanutrients are good for general good health too) that often carry serious side effects and overall just aren't all that good for the body (while at the same time, Atkins emphasizes that getting off medicines or reducing dosage should only be done under a physician's guidence). Dr Atkins diet also has a plan for lifelong eating of natural fruits, vegetables, meats, whole grains, dairy foods, and legumes, etc. But really it's just common sense eating. And it's also common sense that going back to junk foods will cause the weight to come back. If you want the weight to stay off, then obviously you can't go back to the way you were eating before your diet. Instead of a temporary diet, you should develop a real diet (A way of eating for life). Now, of course you don't want to continue to loose weight once you're down to where you want to be, but you do want to continue to eat foods that will fill you up without putting the pounds back on and that are healthy for you.

Processed foods, refined sugars, trans fats, and bleached flour should all be avoided as the body doesn't metabolize these items very well, and in the case of trans fats, can be downright harmful over the course of 40-50 years that most people consume them before it begins to take its toll in the form of Type II diabetes, heart disease, and obesity.

:hrm:

Now that I've just preached nearly a sermon's worth. I think I'll step down off my soap box, and get back on my diet (I'm just as guilty as the next when it comes to craving the sweets. :blush:)

[AVmetro]

And honestly, Atkins bread mix is NOT a substitute for the real thing :pffttongue: