I can't get into voting.

[Jillyn'Toast]

So I could have voted in the last election. But, I just didn't. I didn't like any of the candidates then, and I don't like any now. Which means, I can't get into voting this year either. I know I should vote... but, I think it's a useless endeavor. Obama or Hilary are probably going to win. We've been Republican too long, people are tired of it. Hilary is getting smashed (at least from what I've seen) when she does in person discussions with Obama. Which means he will probably win the presidency. I think he's total crap. It's like electing Joel Osteen to be president. The Republican people aren't even getting any press. The only names I ever see in the media are Ron Paul, Hilary and Obama. (And, if you vote for some off the wall independent or libertarian or some crap, you're just wasting your vote, let's face it.) It sucks pretty hard. Really, this is just my rant about why I don't want to vote. ... But, consequently, I have to.

[micah4]

. The only names I ever see in the media are Ron Paul, Hilary and Obama. (And, if you vote for some off the wall independent or libertarian or some crap, you're just wasting your vote, let's face it.).

Voting for who yo believe is the best candidate is never wasting your vote, because it at least tells the "winning" party that they cant take their status fr granted, and that their support is shrinking- which forces them to look at the issues that motivate you to vote for somebod else. I encourage you to look at Ron Paul.

[Trout]

I feel your pain, Jilly.

I feel far more important when voting in local elections.

[Jimmy Higgins]

So I could have voted in the last election. But, I just didn't.As in you didn't bother to go to the polls... or you showed up and voted in a bunch of things and didn't vote in the Presidential race? I can understand the later, but can't comprehend the prior. On election day, many more things on the ballot than who to vote for President.

I think he's total crap. It's like electing Joel Osteen to be president.How is electing a Constitutional Lawyer for President like voting for Joel Osteen?

[Jimmy Higgins]

Voting for who yo believe is the best candidate is never wasting your vote, because it at least tells the "winning" party that they cant take their status fr granted, and that their support is shrinking- which forces them to look at the issues that motivate you to vote for somebod else. I encourage you to look at Ron Paul.Me too! Look at Ron Paul!

[Jillyn'Toast]

Voting for who yo believe is the best candidate is never wasting your vote, because it at least tells the "winning" party that they cant take their status fr granted, and that their support is shrinking- which forces them to look at the issues that motivate you to vote for somebod else. I encourage you to look at Ron Paul.

Erm... I do not support Ron Paul. He scares me.



And, here's the thing. Pick up Osteen's book and then pick up Obama's book. Compare the covers. Compare the generalized crap inside. They are just pretty faces on generalizations that like to debate.

[Nicholas]

This will be my first Presidential election and I'm looking forward to it. I hated that I wasn't old enough to vote in the last one, so I'm definitely going to vote (Democrat, if you hadn't already guessed).

[micah4]

Erm... I do not support Ron Paul. He scares me.

What about him scares you?

[historic salve]

The Republican people aren't even getting any press. The only names I ever see in the media are Ron Paul, Hilary and Obama. (And, if you vote for some off the wall independent or libertarian or some crap, you're just wasting your vote, let's face it.)
Don't take this the wrong way, but have you been reading the news at all? I've seen several newspapers proclaim McCain the GOP frontrunner after his victory in Florida. It's hard to miss that kind of coverage.

[historic salve]

Me too! Look at Ron Paul!
Ever noticed how much he looks like a monkey? Especially in the mouth, the way he purses his lips.

[micah4]

Ever noticed how much he looks like a monkey? Especially in the mouth, the way he purses his lips.

Have you ever noticed how much all the other candidates look like monkeys? Especially in their heads, they way they formulate their positions on issues.

[decoski]

This primary system is a joke. It isn't even Constitutional - or is it? I would rather not have a primary and have all the candidates on the ballot in a general election. Wouldn't that be fun?

[Vigilante]

This will be my first Presidential election and I'm looking forward to it. I hated that I wasn't old enough to vote in the last one, so I'm definitely going to vote (Democrat, if you hadn't already guessed).

And here I thought Christians were the ones trying to bring about the apocalypse by force. :lol:


:eek:

[historic salve]

And here I thought Christians were the ones trying to bring about the apocalypse by force. :lol:

:eek:
They are... Why do you think Bush gave nuclear weapons to a proxy state?

:eek:

[Nicholas]

And here I thought Christians were the ones trying to bring about the apocalypse by force. :lol:


:eek:

*Jedi hand wave* There is no vast leftist conspiracy. There is nothing to see here. Move along.... *Jedi hand wave*

[Vigilante]

moving.....................................along................................

[Paintbucket]

My fear is that we'll wind up with a Shillary Clinton vs. Johnny McCant election. Not what we need now, either one.

[Jillyn'Toast]

What about him scares you?

For You: http://xkcd.com/367/



Seriously, though, if I voted and that person got elected and then screwed something up, would I have to feel guilty for supporting them? That is a serious worry of mine. This is a tough thing.

[Spinyn00bman]

For You: http://xkcd.com/367/



Seriously, though, if I voted and that person got elected and then screwed something up, would I have to feel guilty for supporting them? That is a serious worry of mine. This is a tough thing.

Umm...no.


Backing a politician does not make you soley responsible for every choice they make...

[micah4]

For You: http://xkcd.com/367/


Umm, okay. So you don't like Paul because he has a strong presence on internet blogs, or because people who support him get their news from sources other than the mainstream media?

What are the issues that you're basing your decision on?


Seriously, though, if I voted and that person got elected and then screwed something up, would I have to feel guilty for supporting them? That is a serious worry of mine. This is a tough thing.

Things are screwed up now, because the people who've been elected over the past 100 years have already screwed things up. I'm not sure why one would feel any less guilty for continuing to support candidates that won't lift a finger to change any of that.

[Jillyn'Toast]

Umm, okay. So you don't like Paul because he has a strong presence on internet blogs, or because people who support him get their news from sources other than the mainstream media?

What are the issues that you're basing your decision on?

He may have a lot of strong beliefs (and some that are kinda good), but I haven't heard anything that sounds like a coherent plan on how to play them out. Honestly, when I read his positions they come across as being double minded.

I don't think that there's a lot of difference between parties... I think the difference is in the person, if they can be practical in how they plan out what they want to do, then that's great. But, if all I see is "I voted no to this, and I'm against this" type of statements, sure I'll look to see what they promote, but if they aren't talking about what the practical side of those vote no statements are, then I have a hard time even thinking seriously about them.

[quote]Things are screwed up now, because the people who've been elected over the past 100 years have already screwed things up. I'm not sure why one would feel any less guilty for continuing to support candidates that won't lift a finger to change any of that.

*shrug* Just because something was messed up doesn't mean anything. It's all about how you handle the mess up. Improvements are great... but what about just managing what you've been given? Change isn't always the answer, just as leaving it the same is sometimes faulty.

[Jillyn'Toast]

Umm...no.


Backing a politician does not make you soley responsible for every choice they make...

Heh, but that's something I'm kind of stuck on. By voting, I am showing support of this person. I can't control their actions, but if they put into action something I knew they wanted to do then I am responsible for supporting that act. Right?

[grit]

Have you ever noticed how much all the other candidates look like monkeys? Especially in their heads, they way they formulate their positions on issues.

Well, all mugwumpery (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=2233548&postcount=1560) notwithstanding in a year of record voter turnout, If all of the 2008 presidential candidates had found some way to cooperate and pool their resources for a humourous REGISTER TO VOTE! superbowl ad, featuring the 2001, a Space Odyssey (candidate) monkeys in a sort of smashing together of the examples listed below, for a bipartisan push for positive healing change on an evolutionary scale, most everyone would have voted for THAT, and I think we could have garnered a 220 % improvement in perceptions of the American political process - 220... 221, or whatever (a hopefully easy Jack Bulter Mr. Mom (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085970/quotes) reference).

http://www.youtube.com/v/MNw3LdXFzOo&rel=1 (the frontrunners are no doubt the ones with water, our most precious natural resource after, well, air)

http://www.youtube.com/v/LLtmffCFJQc&rel=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/aFwyqhBJR_w&rel=1 * (I don't know, I think the leopard is perhaps Al Gore? You'll have to help me with the others, but I definitely saw Hillary, & the McCain/Huckabee hookup. The chorus, of course, would be VOTE!, VOTE!, VOTE!, VOTE!)
*WARNING! Somewhat explicit lyrics, but only if you've got the kind of ears that catches that sort of thing.