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    An investigation by USA Today found that Trump and/or his businesses have been involved in over 3,500 lawsuits in the last 30 years. At least 1,900 times as a plaintiff, and 1,450 times as defendant.

    These lawsuits have related to:
    - Casinos: 1,700 times
    - People suffering injury: 700 times
    - Real estate disputes: 300 times
    - Government prosecutions and taxes: 165 times
    - Contractual disputes: 125 times
    - Employment disputes: 120 times
    - Golf courses: 60 times
    - Branding: 25 times
    - Trump university: 20 times
    - Miss universe: 20 times
    - Libel, slander, and media: 15 times

    The reporters found that these numbers are a lot higher than for other people who have companies in his lines of business. The number of real estate related suits he's been involved in is higher than 5 other major real estate developers combined.

    Of Trump's cases, the outcomes of those that reached resolution were: 500 were dismissed or discontinued, he won 450, he agreed to a settlement 175 times, and lost 38 times.

    He appears particularly poor at paying taxes, and in NY alone the state has had to take temporary ownership of his buildings more than three dozen times due to unpaid tax debts.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

  • #2
    He only lost 38 times out of 3,500? That's impressive!
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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    • #3
      Someone who owns a lot of business is involved in a lot of lawsuits. News at 11 (or 10, if you're Central).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
        He only lost 38 times out of 3,500? That's impressive!
        Yeah, it is. It's also interesting that he's been the plaintiff more often than not.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          He only lost 38 times out of 3,500? That's impressive!
          The won and lost statistics are only with regard to the 1300 cases for which the researchers could find a documented resolution. The source article is unclear as to how many of the 500 dismissed or discontinued suits were Trump losing (ie the judge tossing out his case) versus him winning (ie the plaintiffs against him getting their case tossed out)... it would be nice if they'd broken that down for us.

          If you're wanting to calculate win/loss ratios, the 38 times he lost should probably be compared with the 450 times he won, the 175 times he settled, and 137 which the researchers filed under 'other' which I presume means had results that were complicated and which both sides won and lost different points of the case in the judge's decision (800 total), which gives 5% losses, 56% wins, and 22% settled, and 17% "it's complicated" results. Overall, yes that's a pretty good win rate for a private citizen involved in civil cases, and I presume he and his companies must have pretty good lawyers.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            The won and lost statistics are only with regard to the 1300 cases for which the researchers could find a documented resolution. The source article is unclear as to how many of the 500 dismissed or discontinued suits were Trump losing (ie the judge tossing out his case) versus him winning (ie the plaintiffs against him getting their case tossed out)... it would be nice if they'd broken that down for us.

            If you're wanting to calculate win/loss ratios, the 38 times he lost should probably be compared with the 450 times he won, the 175 times he settled, and 137 which the researchers filed under 'other' which I presume means had results that were complicated and which both sides won and lost different points of the case in the judge's decision (800 total), which gives 5% losses, 56% wins, and 22% settled, and 17% "it's complicated" results. Overall, yes that's a pretty good win rate for a private citizen involved in civil cases, and I presume he and his companies must have pretty good lawyers.
            So, what's your point?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              The won and lost statistics are only with regard to the 1300 cases for which the researchers could find a documented resolution. The source article is unclear as to how many of the 500 dismissed or discontinued suits were Trump losing (ie the judge tossing out his case) versus him winning (ie the plaintiffs against him getting their case tossed out)... it would be nice if they'd broken that down for us.

              If you're wanting to calculate win/loss ratios, the 38 times he lost should probably be compared with the 450 times he won, the 175 times he settled, and 137 which the researchers filed under 'other' which I presume means had results that were complicated and which both sides won and lost different points of the case in the judge's decision (800 total), which gives 5% losses, 56% wins, and 22% settled, and 17% "it's complicated" results. Overall, yes that's a pretty good win rate for a private citizen involved in civil cases, and I presume he and his companies must have pretty good lawyers.
              That, and his opponents had pretty poor cases. But do keep digging that dirt Star...
              That's what
              - She

              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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              • #8
                He was (and is) an aggressive businessman who fights for what he wants. That makes him a pretty big litigious target.

                There's a possibility he will fight that hard for the "Make America Great Again" meme.

                (Again, I'm not an ardent Trump supporter - I wish this were not an election where the options were between the evil of two lessers)
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  So Trump is a candidate who does things within the parameters of our court system?
                  I can see why a democrat would find that alarming.
                  Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                    So Trump is a candidate who does things within the parameters of our court system?
                    I can see why a democrat would find that alarming.
                    And he uses every legal means to pay less taxes - that's the real problem.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Crooked Hillary is so dirty that liberals are desperate to find anything they can to pin on Trump.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        In this election you guys will have to vote with both hands, one of them to hold onto your nose.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                          In this election you guys will have to vote with both hands, one of them to hold onto your nose.
                          That's nearly every election for us though, not just this one...
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                            In this election you guys will have to vote with both hands, one of them to hold onto your nose.
                            And then try to chase away the memory with a fifth of cheap vodka.
                            Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                            I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                            • #15
                              I think a Trump presidency will surprise a lot of people, but liberals will forever be loath to admit it.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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