A Linux User Switches to Windows and Shares His Thoughts...

[$cirisme]

http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/10/09/0552252.shtml

Interesting read...

[Em7add11]

I read that this morning. He seems to have a lot of the same initial frustrations that Win->Lin people have. It seemed to be more of a critique of IE by the end than an O/S comparision, but it was a good read still.

[$cirisme]

I really liked my experience with Red Hat 9. I have it dual-booting on my Win2k box, and as soons as I get my butt in gear to get Windows Shares/NTFS reading working, I'm switching. All I have on Win2k I don't have on Linux is Apache/MySQL/PHP(for my TW test site, obviously only because I haven't bothered to set it up on Linux yet :hehe:) and Photoshop.

Photoshop will be the only thing keeping me from totally scrubbing Win2k.

[JCA]

Well, I have to say that I kinda lost a little respect in the first part where he complains about cutting and pasting.. If he doesn't know that you can right-click after highlighting a certain area, url, etc., and then right clicking where you want to paste it, then he really wasn't using windows.. he was still trying to use the Unix/Linux backdrop of keyboard and command line commands.

I've seen many of the people I know who use both Linux and Window$ making these same mistakes..

Still, I would have to say that windows is a much 'dumber' system than Linux/Unix.. using both myself, it's not hard to realise that a lot more expertise is needed for Linux than Window$.. and stepping backwards normally isn't the kind of things us techies like to do.

So with that in mind, I don't see that it's a harsh article.. but it has many flaws in it's representation, making some things out to be the only way they are done - such as the cut/paste thing. It's about what I would expect from someone coming from Linux to M$ :teeth:


L&P

JCA

[Em7add11]

cirisme:

I really liked my experience with Red Hat 9. I have it dual-booting on my Win2k box, and as soons as I get my butt in gear to get Windows Shares/NTFS reading working, I'm switching. All I have on Win2k I don't have on Linux is Apache/MySQL/PHP(for my TW test site, obviously only because I haven't bothered to set it up on Linux yet :hehe:) and Photoshop.

Photoshop will be the only thing keeping me from totally scrubbing Win2k.

NTFS support was the first thing that I set up on my Linux partition. Since I'm having a nightmare of a time getting a modem working I had to at least be able to listen to MP3s while I did it, hehe.

[$cirisme]

JCA:

Well, I have to say that I kinda lost a little respect in the first part where he complains about cutting and pasting.. If he doesn't know that you can right-click after highlighting a certain area, url, etc., and then right clicking where you want to paste it, then he really wasn't using windows..

This isn't what I got from it. It's kind of like mouse gestures in Firebird. All I have to do is hit shift while moving my mouse down and tada, I've got a new tab. In IE, I would have to goto File->New, or Ctrl-N, and then I just get a new window with the same page as the old one. :noid:

The point is that Mozilla is faster in this regard than IE. Likewise, in Linux you can set it up so all you need to do is press a couple buttons all at once to copy/paste. In Windows, put both hands on the keyboard and hit Ctrl-V, or right click and hit paste. Either way, you have two or three steps whereas with Linux you only have one. I think that's the point he was making.


he was still trying to use the Unix/Linux backdrop of keyboard and command line commands.

?


I've seen many of the people I know who use both Linux and Window$ making these same mistakes..

Count me in :lol:


Still, I would have to say that windows is a much 'dumber' system than Linux/Unix.. using both myself, it's not hard to realise that a lot more expertise is needed for Linux than Window$.. and stepping backwards normally isn't the kind of things us techies like to do.

:thumb:

Overall, the article was okay, if not annoying.(such as the wuick launch nonsense.)

BTW, I really wish I had the KDE calendar with my Windows clock. That's nice! :smile:

[Em7add11]

cirisme:

BTW, I really wish I had the KDE calendar with my Windows clock. That's nice! :smile:

Do you use the "fuzzy" time? I love when you set it to be as general as possible and all it says is "Day" or "Night." :rofl:

[$cirisme]

Em7add11:

Do you use the "fuzzy" time?

No. Not counting the computer clocks, I have 2 atomic clocks, 1 digital clock, and 3 watches within arm's-reach. I'm obsessed with accurate time and being late :lol:

I did try it out and thought it was hilarious. :lol:

[JCA]

To be honest, I prefer the SUSE Linux over Red Hat.. you looked at that before?

As for the command-line comment, by that I meant coming from a Unix background, most techies - at least my age - are used to a command line interface, and not a GUI.. and so everything used to be KB bound.. there are a lot of things you CAN do with a mouse in Window$, if you set it up right and take the time to do some custom config's.. so that's all I really meant.. it's an older Unix mentality that most extended commands are command line driven, and maybe more of a habit nowdays than truth.

I have found myself doing it.. or used to anyway.


:smile:

[$cirisme]

JCA:

To be honest, I prefer the SUSE Linux over Red Hat.. you looked at that before?

I've heard a lot of good things about SUSE, but I haven't gotten my hands on it yet.

Tomorrow we're upgrading our server from Red Hat 7 to RH9, as well as a few other upgrades. I can't wait to see how they perform. :smile:


As for the command-line comment, by that I meant coming from a Unix background, most techies - at least my age - are used to a command line interface, and not a GUI.. and so everything used to be KB bound.. there are a lot of things you CAN do with a mouse in Window$, if you set it up right and take the time to do some custom config's.. so that's all I really meant.. it's an older Unix mentality that most extended commands are command line driven, and maybe more of a habit nowdays than truth.

Ok. Your comment did really make sense as it was right after the copy/pasting thing in which he was going from a mouse shortcut(linux) to a keyboard one(windows). :doh: Thanks for clearing that up :smile:

[robert65]

You DO have the option of picking what updates you want. I did on my desktop and laptop running XP Pro. Both fairly recent mind you. Maybe older versions don't give you the option.