Of parking tickets and lethal injections

[Jnthn]

"A nation that does not trust its system of justice to hand down the death sentence for a capital crime should not hand out the merest of fines"

Discuss.

J

[themuzicman]

Death to all who oppose us!

[technomage]

OK ... it's a nonsense phrase, a grammatically-questionable slogan more for for a bumper sticker than for serious consideration.

:teeth:

[themuzicman]

Government ultimately desires the power to create conformity. It's a natural result of fallen man's desire for security and significance. Thus, there is a dire need for a high value on freedom and a rejection of government enforced conformity, or the content of my previous post will ultimately become the mantra of government.

Michael

[Jaltus]

Those who can't do, teach. Those who lie about doing become politicians.

[technomage]

Those who can't do, teach. Those who lie about doing become politicians.
Hey! My wife is a teacher, you insensitive clod!





:hehe:

[Jnthn]

OK ... it's a nonsense phrase, a grammatically-questionable slogan more for for a bumper sticker than for serious consideration.

:teeth:Ok...I was aiming for "pithy", but behind the slogan was a serious implied question!

Oh, and you'd probably have to own a Hummer to fit that on your bumper sticker!

J

[NeilUnreal]

I see it as a non-sequiter.

viz.

"A nation that does not trust its system of justice to hand down banishment of entire families for a misdemeanor by one member should not hand out the merest of fines."

"A nation that does not trust its teachers to hand down the death sentence for chewing gum should not hand out the merest of punishments."

It seems perfectly reasonable to trust a system of justice to the point of allowing it to hand down all types of fines and punishments while witholding the trust to implement other types of fines and punishments. That seems, after all, to be one of the main points of having a constitution, to codify: "we trust the government to do this thing, yet not to do this other thing."

-Neil

[avaya]

I'm reminded of the proverb "Don't follow proverbs blindly "

[technomage]

Ok...I was aiming for "pithy", but behind the slogan was a serious implied question!

Neil's probably given the best possible answer: the statement is a non sequiter. There is no logical connection between the first part and the second, and the author does nothing to try to persuade people that there should be.


Oh, and you'd probably have to own a Hummer to fit that on your bumper sticker!

A Buick might do--one of the really big models from the late 60s/early 70s.

[Jedidiah]

Hey! My wife is a teacher, you insensitive clod!

There are teachers and failures who teach. :shrug:

[Alien]

"A nation that does not trust its system of justice to hand down the death sentence for a capital crime should not hand out the merest of fines"

Discuss.

J

Attempting an answer to what the author of that quote possibly meant ...

The death sentence differs from all other punishments (that we use) in that it is not correctable after the fact. It can therefore quite reasonably be put into a separate category if we so choose.

I probably need to expand on "correctable" a little and include giving someone compensation for a wrongful sentencing. You can't give someone back the years he spent in prison, but you can give him monetary compensation. There's nothing you can do to compensate a dead person.