Jeremiah 33

[Timothy Leary]

http://www.ancient-paths.net/yirmiyah33.htm

Any critiques?

[dizzle]

Yosiah can you reproduce the entire article here? We generally try to discourage links by themselves as very rarely do persons follow them and they somtimes are for material that is just too large for a forum discussion. The Librarian's Desk is a bit of an exception as it's purpose is different fromt he debate areas, but if you reproduce here I can say that more people will probably give you feedback.

[Timothy Leary]

Looking back at some of my original posts, I realized that I never reproduced the article for ya. So now, a year later, I will.

The article is below the funky line

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This question was asked : Doesn't Jeremiah 33:17&18 say that sacrifices will always be performed, and that someone will always rule on the throne of David?

"For thus said YHWH: There shall never be an end to men of David's line who sit on the throne of the House of Israel. Nor shall there ever be an end to the line of levitical priests before Me, of those who present burnt offerings and turn the meal offering to smoke and perform sacrifices."

Yoshiyahu's answer: For context purposes, I'd like to quote the previous three verses (14-16):

"See, days are coming - declares YHWH - when I will fulfill the promise that I made concerning the House of Israel and the House of Judah. In those days and at that time, I will raise up a true branch of David's line, and he shall do what is just and right in the land. In those days Judah shall be delivered and Israel shall dwell secure. And this is what she shall be called: 'YHWH is our Vindicator.'"

This is a Messianic Prophecy, as "days are coming" indicates. I believe that YHWH was trying to comfort his people with this prophecy, since the Temple (which they thought would protect them against anything) had been destroyed, and the Babylonian Exile had began, thus scattering the tribes. This would be a time of extreme grief for the Jewish people.

Verses 17 and 18 are part of that comforting message. This passage is not saying that there will always be a person fulfilling the title of 'king' on David's throne, or that sacrifices would always be performed - especially in light that other scriptures say otherwise. Many of the Jews of that time were afraid that this exile would result in the destruction of the priestly lines, and of the line of David.

I believe that YHWH was trying to comfort and soothe his people, telling them that although Jeremiah had truly prophesied of the Babylonian Exile, they would stay a people, and though the seat of David may seem to be empty, that there will always be a person who could fill that throne.

[Lion]

Yes, God, through Jeremiah as tring to comfort His his people. They had left off serving God for so long they had lost hope. the 70 years of captivity brought a new generation determined to serve god. Unfortunately the Jews went to the other extreme. They were so zealous to serve God they attended to such small details that they covered up the things they were supposed to do. They lost sight of true religion in the details the scribes heaped up.

Matt. 23:13 ¶ “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
Matt. 23:15 ¶ “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
Matt. 23:27 ¶ “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.

[Timothy Leary]

They lost sight of true religion in the details the scribes heaped up.

How would scribes, whose sole job was to copy texts, be the cause of problems?? Wouldn't that be akin to blaming America is bad because a few american journalists are messed up?

[Lion]

you evidently didn't read the texts I quoted. Jesus lumped the scribes and pharisees together in his denunciation, SCRIBES, PHARISEES. Scribes not only copied scripture, they also taught.

[Timothy Leary]

you evidently didn't read the texts I quoted. Jesus lumped the scribes and pharisees together in his denunciation, SCRIBES, PHARISEES. Scribes not only copied scripture, they also taught.

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