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srvfan
September 1st 2008, 09:31 AM
I'd like to hear views of atheists or agnostics who advocate pro-Life.

I'm neither of them, but I follow the words of Khalil Gibran who said that children are not the ownership of their parents. They are individuals who went through their parents and eventually would be leading their own lives. That's one of my "secular" reasons.

I've read from a YEC source that the presence of vestiges that resemble fins and gills in fetuses are used to justify pro-life. Ergo, they are not human but fish that is about to evolve into a human. I'm not YEC and I believe in evolution, but if pro-choicers have actually used such argument they should be knocked silly. Humans have vestiges too even in adult life, for instance, the tailbone, the appendix, and arguably the male nipple.

JonLanceBarker
September 2nd 2008, 10:46 PM
I've read from a YEC source that the presence of vestiges that resemble fins and gills in fetuses are used to justify pro-life.

First of all, I think you mean "justify abortion."

Second of all, that sounds like something the writer made up on the spot.

Seasanctuary
September 17th 2008, 10:41 AM
I started a thread on this topic (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=118627) on the Naturalism forum. Note: Theists are not allowed to post to that forum. Commentary threads on less restricted forums are, of course, always fine.

Jedidiah
September 17th 2008, 04:41 PM
I am not a nonbeliever, but when I began to see abortion as a bad thing I was at best an agnostic with no overt interest in spiritual things. I simply became convinced that making a discrimination based upon level of development was basically dishonest. I did not and do not believe in any point in time when a soul is added to a fetus to make it human.

My faith in Christ has added to the reasons I had as a non believer for finding abortion to be a bad thing.

Dee Dee Warren
September 17th 2008, 10:59 PM
Well I would say that an atheist would think the chances of that particular human being coming into existence are of such magnitude of billions of years that it should be honoured and allowed to live - i.e. if this life is all there is, let the baby have a chance at it

I would think also that an atheist would make an argument along the same lines that they argue for an evolutionary origin for morality (which I don't buy at all - obviously most atheists are moral, but they don't have any objective grounding for morality, but anyways) they could argue that altruism and propogation of the species is what moves our species along and that abortion is a species-destructive act.

Here is a site

http://www.godlessprolifers.org/home.html

johnnyreader
September 21st 2008, 12:05 AM
I'm not agnostic or atheist, but here's one for you: "Life begins at conception." There's absolutely nothing religious at all about that fact.