The hell and heaven difference between worldly hero and Christian hero.

[stephen goswami]

The hell and heaven difference between worldly hero and Christian hero

German incoherent philosopher Nietzsche somewhat correctly defined the hero as one who looks on apathetically to a suffering one. Heroes are made for war and in war they look on indifferently, rather exultingly on their wounded victims. But Christian heroes do care for the suffering ones even with his life. Humanity has always exalted the first type from time immemorial. But when Christ came; kingdom of heaven came down on earth. Christ was the first real hero. Now the previous hell creating heroes’ hold on humanity gradually loosened. Now we see more of heaven here due to gradually increasing number of Christ imitating heroes. So from 20th century humane democracy appeared worldwide. Socialism spread. States instead of being extortion agents of the kings began to serve the citizens. It is because more people have recognized the real heroes. Now institutional Christianity has progressed to become secular Christianity.
But countries under anarchy and revolution still cling to the old model of hero. Nazi Germany was no exception. But these heroes are self defeating by destroying everything even themselves. But when a Christian hero is destroyed while trying to save one he is soul-saved as Christ has promised. But a worldly hero makes hell here and continues it in afterlife.

[Adam]

The hell and heaven difference between worldly hero and Christian hero

German incoherent philosopher Nietzsche somewhat correctly defined the hero as one who looks on apathetically to a suffering one. Heroes are made for war and in war they look on indifferently, rather exultingly on their wounded victims. But Christian heroes do care for the suffering ones even with his life. Humanity has always exalted the first type from time immemorial. But when Christ came; kingdom of heaven came down on earth. Christ was the first real hero. Now the previous hell creating heroes’ hold on humanity gradually loosened. Now we see more of heaven here due to gradually increasing number of Christ imitating heroes. So from 20th century humane democracy appeared worldwide. Socialism spread. States instead of being extortion agents of the kings began to serve the citizens. It is because more people have recognized the real heroes. Now institutional Christianity has progressed to become secular Christianity.
But countries under anarchy and revolution still cling to the old model of hero. Nazi Germany was no exception. But these heroes are self defeating by destroying everything even themselves. But when a Christian hero is destroyed while trying to save one he is soul-saved as Christ has promised. But a worldly hero makes hell here and continues it in afterlife.
If you had posted this in a politics forum, you would find that "Christians" still idolize the hero and hate the Christian ethic. What a firestorm your "socialism" over "extortion" would have aroused! Yes, "Christians" still lionize McCain for bombing innocent civilians and hate Obama for having no record of killing people.
Not that I hate McCain or love Socialism (though I'm not dissing it any more after what the Republicans and Bush have done to this country). I'm just saying.
Adam

[stephen goswami]

If you had posted this in a politics forum, you would find that "Christians" still idolize the hero and hate the Christian ethic. What a firestorm your "socialism" over "extortion" would have aroused! Yes, "Christians" still lionize McCain for bombing innocent civilians and hate Obama for having no record of killing people.
Not that I hate McCain or love Socialism (though I'm not dissing it any more after what the Republicans and Bush have done to this country). I'm just saying.
Adam

Dear brother,
Though I am an Indian I share your agony about U.S. politics. It is similar in all countries. We have less power so can do less harm. U.S.A. has more power so can do more. So Christ said that Devil is the ruler of the world. But slowly Christ is gaining ground and one day he will reign. Meanwhile we must not fall to the temptation to side with the devil’s heroes but emulate the Christian heroes. Love

[Tanakh Keeper]

The hell and heaven difference between worldly hero and Christian hero

German incoherent philosopher Nietzsche somewhat correctly defined the hero as one who looks on apathetically to a suffering one. Heroes are made for war and in war they look on indifferently, rather exultingly on their wounded victims. But Christian heroes do care for the suffering ones even with his life. Humanity has always exalted the first type from time immemorial. But when Christ came; kingdom of heaven came down on earth. Christ was the first real hero.

I disagree. Judaism calls Queen Esther a hero. She put her life on the line for the salvation of all the Jewish people. Being a hero in Judaism has never meant just being a war hero. It means a person that puts their own safety aside to protect others. I think Samson was one of the first heroes mentioned in the bible.

We have always honored our heroes, biblical or otherwise, without forgetting that they were human beings and subject to mistakes and failures. A human hero accurately portrayed is much more valuable than an imaginary one who is perfect, infallible and a pure saint. Everyone can identify with the former. With the latter, the hero becomes irrelevant to the life of the ordinary person. Many times it is the sinner who repents and raises him/herself from that error that is viewed as being even more heroic than the righteous person who has not sinned. The Talmud assigns greater status in heaven to those who repent than to those who never sinned.

The great Torah scholars of Israel almost always became folk heroes to the Jewish people. They were adorned with legend even during their lifetime and certainly after their deaths. The legends emphasized their positive qualities, their good deeds and their great Torah knowledge. Heroes such as Rashi, Rambam, Rabbi Yosef Caro, Rabbi Moshe Isserles, the Gaon of Vilna and the Baal Shem Tov and their accomplishments became the treasure of all Israel. While later scholars may have disagreed with their interpretations of Torah law and even commented negatively upon actions taken in their lives, none of this affected their status as genuine heroes in the Jewish world. Judaism does not canonize people as saints nor does it demand the performance of miracles from its heroes. It just demands moral and observant behavior from them.

[stephen goswami]

I disagree. Judaism calls Queen Esther a hero. She put her life on the line for the salvation of all the Jewish people. Being a hero in Judaism has never meant just being a war hero. It means a person that puts their own safety aside to protect others. I think Samson was one of the first heroes mentioned in the bible..

• We, Christ followers can never take one as a hero, who is only motivated by sectarian and communal interests. Samson killed people of other community as the common heroes do. Jewish and Muslim heroes do it. A Christian hero will save friends without harming enemies. They are rarer than communal heroes but still there are many. They are in jails, concentration camps, isolation wards, war and disaster zones etc. They are the real relevant people. They are the only light in this strife torn world. Love