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Janice
09-04-2016, 11:02 AM
Here is what Mormonism teaches:

The kingdom of God on earth is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (D&C 65). The purpose of the Church is to prepare its members to live forever in the celestial kingdom or kingdom of heaven. However, the scriptures sometimes call the Church the kingdom of heaven, meaning that the Church is the kingdom of heaven on earth.
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IOW, only Mormons are in the kingdom of God.


“The infidel will grasp at every straw for help until death stares him in the face, and then his infidelity takes its flight, for the realities of the eternal world are resting upon him in mighty power; and when every earthly support and prop fails him, he then sensibly feels the eternal truths of the immortality of the soul. We should take warning and not wait for the death-bed to repent; as we see the infant taken away by death, so may the youth and middle aged, as well as the infant be suddenly called into eternity. Let this, then, prove as a warning to all not to procrastinate repentance, or wait till a death-bed, for it is the will of God that man should repent and serve Him in health, and in the strength and power of his mind, in order to secure His blessing, and not wait until he is called to die.”11

11. History of the Church, 4:553–54; punctuation modernized; from a discourse given by Joseph Smith on Mar. 20, 1842, in Nauvoo, Illinois; reported by Wilford Woodruff.

If death bed repentance is too late, then it appears that their judgment is imminent. Will they be permitted to accept Jiseph Smith in the Spirit Prison?

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

In Mormonism, the children of the family of God, will be in His presence. Yet they said we're all children of God.

"So it will be of the righteous from the days of Adam down --- Adam standing at the head as Michael, having authority and jurisdiction over his posterity in this large family group who have kept the commandments of God.

"Now that is the order of the priesthood. Of course there will be chains that will be broken, links that will be missing, because we cannot force people into the kingdom. Those who are unworthy to be joined in this grouping of families will have to stand aside, and those who are worthy will be brought together and the chain will go on justthe same.

"Eventually, when the work is perfected, and Christ delivers up to the Father the keys and makes his report, and death is destroyed, then that great family from the days of Adam down, of all the righteous, those who have kept the commandments of God, will find that they are one family, the family of God, entitled to all the blessings that pertain to the exaltation."

Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:68

Bill the Cat
09-04-2016, 11:39 AM
But... Eternal Families!! :lol:

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 01:38 PM
And human aliens! Think about it.

Cow Poke
09-04-2016, 03:31 PM
So, the answer to the title of the thread could be "when Horace the Bull grows udders and gets milk, and it comes out flavored with Hershey's Chocolate Syrup". :smile:

Cow Poke
09-04-2016, 03:33 PM
But... Eternal Families!! :lol:

Remember how they screwed that up by allowing divorce, or "cancellation of sealing", but couldn't figure out who the offsprings were "sealed to" -- they just left that mess for God to figure out.

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 03:46 PM
Remember how they screwed that up by allowing divorce, or "cancellation of sealing", but couldn't figure out who the offsprings were "sealed to" -- they just left that mess for God to figure out.

But the Mormon god was once a human(alien? different planet!). Sounds too complicated for a finite powerful entity. I'd like to know how a human can become a powerful entity. Get turned into a kryptonian? Somehow gain a reality warping powerset? Do mormons think that humans are the larval form of whatever type of creature their god is? I can do this all day! Is it okay for me to make fun of a cult?

Cow Poke
09-04-2016, 03:50 PM
Is it okay for me to make fun of a cult?

Just don't make fun of MY cult! We believe in eating flesh, drinking blood, and dead people coming back to life. :yes:

Bill the Cat
09-04-2016, 03:55 PM
So, the answer to the title of the thread could be "when Horace the Bull grows udders and gets milk, and it comes out flavored with Hershey's Chocolate Syrup". :smile:

You're from Texas, aren't you? :wink:

Bill the Cat
09-04-2016, 03:56 PM
Do mormons think that humans are the larval form of whatever type of creature their god is?

Yes. They call it "gods in embryo"

Cow Poke
09-04-2016, 03:59 PM
You're from Texas, aren't you? :wink:

It shows? :noid:

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 05:11 PM
Just don't make fun of MY cult! We believe in eating flesh, drinking blood, and dead people coming back to life. :yes:

It's not really flesh and blood. It's most likely crackers/bread and grape juice/wine. And dead people coming back to life makes sense in a theistic universe. Finite beings can't become omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, etc. beings.

Bill the Cat
09-04-2016, 05:12 PM
It shows? :noid:

Only a lot :yes:

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 05:13 PM
Yes. They call it "gods in embryo"

How do they explain the lack of evidence for the nonillion lifeforms that have to be swarming the galaxy, much less the universe if their cosmology is true? Or do they claim a multiverse theory now?

Bill the Cat
09-04-2016, 05:29 PM
How do they explain the lack of evidence for the nonillion lifeforms that have to be swarming the galaxy, much less the universe if their cosmology is true? Or do they claim a multiverse theory now?

A multiverse. Each "god" gets to make their own universe.

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 05:55 PM
A multiverse. Each "god" gets to make their own universe.

Don't they know how much power and wisdom it takes to create a universe? A LOT! Unless they mean like a puny micro universe like in some comic book created by a human alien. Which sounds weird to me.

KingsGambit
09-04-2016, 06:18 PM
How do they explain the lack of evidence for the nonillion lifeforms that have to be swarming the galaxy, much less the universe if their cosmology is true? Or do they claim a multiverse theory now?

I don't think I would use this argument. Atheists say the same thing about the spirit world that Christianity teaches about (though to be fair, unlike the Mormon stuff, I think there is evidence for it).

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 06:36 PM
I don't think I would use this argument. Atheists say the same thing about the spirit world that Christianity teaches about (though to be fair, unlike the Mormon stuff, I think there is evidence for it).

The spirit world is not detectable to science tools by definition. They can be invisible/inaudible/ etc. Meaning that a spirit could be right behind you(well, there is the Holy Spirit indwelling all Christians, so I wouldn't be afraid)! And you won't know it!

Janice
09-04-2016, 06:50 PM
:no:

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 06:55 PM
:no:

:sad: Did I say something bad?

Janice
09-04-2016, 07:06 PM
Nah! The thread went south.

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 07:16 PM
Nah! The thread went south.

We twebbers love to derail threads!

KingsGambit
09-04-2016, 07:17 PM
The spirit world is not detectable to science tools by definition. They can be invisible/inaudible/ etc. Meaning that a spirit could be right behind you(well, there is the Holy Spirit indwelling all Christians, so I wouldn't be afraid)! And you won't know it!

Right... but the Mormon will turn around and say the exact same thing about their theology.

Christianbookworm
09-04-2016, 07:21 PM
Right... but the Mormon will turn around and say the exact same thing about their theology.

What about the whole Native Americans not showing genetic similarities to the Jews? Do they claim that the real Jews all died out???

KingsGambit
09-04-2016, 07:46 PM
What about the whole Native Americans not showing genetic similarities to the Jews? Do they claim that the real Jews all died out???

Yeah, that is a pretty significant problem for Mormonism.