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Leonhard
09-14-2016, 12:28 PM
I have a neighbor upstairs who smokes quite a bit so I've started to open my window during the night and turn off the radiator. That clears away the smell of cigarette smoke that drifts down, but I tend to roll around a lot in my sleep and thrown off my blanket. This morning I woke up with my entire chest being exposed and cold, and I've a building icky feeling all day.

And now yup a fever and aching joints. :sick:

Is it particularly unhealthy to sleep with an open window?

Cow Poke
09-14-2016, 01:44 PM
Only if you live in a high crime area, or have high concentrations of smog, pollen, dirt, mosquitoes, or if there's kudzoo growing in your neighborhood.

(Odd that the smoke would "drift down"?)

Leonhard
09-14-2016, 01:51 PM
Only if you live in a high crime area, or have high concentrations of smog, pollen, dirt, mosquitoes, or if there's kudzoo growing in your neighborhood.

(Odd that the smoke would "drift down"?)

I have no idea why it gets down here. I'm on the lowest floor, and only the basement is below me. Maybe there's a draft of some kind? He's a very heavy smoker, as in multiple packs per day, and night for that matter (I remember waking up to my bed room smelling like an ashtray at 3am... went outside, and yup that light was in his window).

I've sleep in my living room most days because it doesn't get as bad there.

But eh, I was tired of being an exile from my bedroom (which - unless the windows are open - smells like stale smoke, ash and tar). I tried sleeping with the windows open, but it seems to have made me ill. :sigh:

DesertBerean
09-14-2016, 02:06 PM
Here in most places I know of they forbid smoking in apartments for just that reason. Apart from the secondhand smoke issues, it's a very very expensive nightmare cleaning out the smoker's apartment. I don't want to even visualize what that guy's place must look like.

I would discuss this with your manager? Concierge? Landlord?

The only dangers are exactly what CP said. In addition, out here, we can get a whole bunch of sand in the house from a "dust devil" or sandstorm. I don't think you would have that concern though.

Teallaura
09-15-2016, 07:30 PM
I have no idea why it gets down here. I'm on the lowest floor, and only the basement is below me. Maybe there's a draft of some kind? He's a very heavy smoker, as in multiple packs per day, and night for that matter (I remember waking up to my bed room smelling like an ashtray at 3am... went outside, and yup that light was in his window).

I've sleep in my living room most days because it doesn't get as bad there.

But eh, I was tired of being an exile from my bedroom (which - unless the windows are open - smells like stale smoke, ash and tar). I tried sleeping with the windows open, but it seems to have made me ill. :sigh:
:brood: Look, Mr Science, you don't get to fall for old wive's tales.

Open windows are not unhealthy. If you aren't used to the change in humidity then you might very well notice a dry throat and mild congestion on waking because cold, dry air can irritate nasal passages.

But getting sick requires the assistance of another human being to supply either germs or a virus.


:glare: You skipped out of biology class, didn't you?

rogue06
09-15-2016, 07:33 PM
:brood: Look, Mr Science, you don't get to fall for old wive's tales.

Open windows are not unhealthy. If you aren't used to the change in humidity then you might very well notice a dry throat and mild congestion on waking because cold, dry air can irritate nasal passages.

But getting sick requires the assistance of another human being to supply either germs or a virus.


:glare: You skipped out of biology class, didn't you?
Be nice now. He was asking not asserting.

Teallaura
09-15-2016, 07:33 PM
I have no idea why it gets down here. I'm on the lowest floor, and only the basement is below me. Maybe there's a draft of some kind? He's a very heavy smoker, as in multiple packs per day, and night for that matter (I remember waking up to my bed room smelling like an ashtray at 3am... went outside, and yup that light was in his window).

I've sleep in my living room most days because it doesn't get as bad there.

But eh, I was tired of being an exile from my bedroom (which - unless the windows are open - smells like stale smoke, ash and tar). I tried sleeping with the windows open, but it seems to have made me ill. :sigh:Particles are heavier than air. Heat will cause them to rise until the heat is lost then gravity takes over.



You have the flu or something - or the world is coming to an end 'cause I'm explaining science to you! Get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids.



:noid: Although now might be a good time to invest in tinfoil hats....

Teallaura
09-15-2016, 07:35 PM
Be nice now. He was asking not asserting.
I think he's an imposter! or an imposter? Impotter?


Dang this new fangled speling anyway... :hmph:

DesertBerean
09-15-2016, 09:51 PM
Lol....seriously, Leonhard, have a chat with whoever is in charge in your building. Surely they have rules about this?

shunyadragon
09-16-2016, 06:20 AM
I have a neighbor upstairs who smokes quite a bit so I've started to open my window during the night and turn off the radiator. That clears away the smell of cigarette smoke that drifts down, but I tend to roll around a lot in my sleep and thrown off my blanket. This morning I woke up with my entire chest being exposed and cold, and I've a building icky feeling all day.

And now yup a fever and aching joints. :sick:

Is it particularly unhealthy to sleep with an open window?

It depends on where you live and if you have allergies. I would not sleep with the windows open in New York nor Beijing. I do not have significant allergies, therefore I do not have a problem with sleeping with the window open in rural North Carolina.

Sparko
09-16-2016, 07:04 AM
Lol....seriously, Leonhard, have a chat with whoever is in charge in your building. Surely they have rules about this?is that a california thing? because anywhere else in the world, if someone told you whether you can smoke in your own home or not, would be told to stick it where the sun don't shine.

DesertBerean
09-16-2016, 08:28 AM
is that a california thing? because anywhere else in the world, if someone told you whether you can smoke in your own home or not, would be told to stick it where the sun don't shine.

APARTMENTS. I don't know about places where you can own a condo, but where ever one rents, there's usually a rule that at least says you got to smoke outside.

Sparko
09-16-2016, 09:54 AM
APARTMENTS. I don't know about places where you can own a condo, but where ever one rents, there's usually a rule that at least says you got to smoke outside.not anywhere I have seen.

Leonhard
09-16-2016, 09:58 AM
:brood: Look, Mr Science, you don't get to fall for old wive's tales.

Open windows are not unhealthy. If you aren't used to the change in humidity then you might very well notice a dry throat and mild congestion on waking because cold, dry air can irritate nasal passages.

But getting sick requires the assistance of another human being to supply either germs or a virus.

Cough... cough... *pleghm* ... cough... sorry... :ill:



:glare: You skipped out of biology class, didn't you?

That's the big reason I switched to studying physics and computer science. Biology was too complex and messy. :yes:

Leonhard
09-16-2016, 10:01 AM
is that a california thing? because anywhere else in the world, if someone told you whether you can smoke in your own home or not, would be told to stick it where the sun don't shine.

Pretty much that's the way it is in Denmark. There's no law prohibiting someone from smoking heavily, even if the smoke drifts into his neighbors living spaces. That's their problem, not his. And even if there was a law like that I'm not sure I'd invoke it. I believe people have the freedom to smoke if that's what makes them happy.

Individual landlords can lay down whether or not smoking inside apartments is permitted. An increasing number prohibits it since it makes the apartment harder to sell afterwards, and its expensive to clean sufficiently if the smoker was a heavy smoker.

I had a neighborly chat with him, and he's agreed to open his windows while smoking. That's made it better, but the stench still builds up if I close mine. I'll talk to the janitor and see if I can't figure out how the smoke gets down to where I am, and whether we can't seal that connection somehow.

Sparko
09-16-2016, 10:04 AM
Pretty much that's the way it is in Denmark. There's no law prohibiting someone from smoking heavily, even if the smoke drifts into his neighbors living spaces. That's their problem, not his. And even if there was a law like that I'm not sure I'd invoke it. I believe people have the freedom to smoke if that's what makes them happy.

Individual landlords can lay down whether or not smoking inside apartments is permitted. An increasing number prohibits it since it makes the apartment harder to sell afterwards, and its expensive to clean sufficiently if the smoker was a heavy smoker.

I had a neighborly chat with him, and he's agreed to open his windows while smoking. That's made it better, but the stench still builds up if I close mine. I'll talk to the janitor and see if I can't figure out how the smoke gets down to where I am, and whether we can't seal that connection somehow.

Maybe you could buy your neighbor an air filtration unit as a gift (or get one for yourself)

DesertBerean
09-16-2016, 10:36 AM
not anywhere I have seen.

Might be a California thing

Jedidiah
09-16-2016, 12:46 PM
I do not sleep with an open window once winter sets in.

Sparko
09-16-2016, 12:47 PM
I do not sleep with an open window once winter sets in.which where you live, is in July.

Teallaura
09-16-2016, 06:11 PM
Pretty much that's the way it is in Denmark. There's no law prohibiting someone from smoking heavily, even if the smoke drifts into his neighbors living spaces. That's their problem, not his. And even if there was a law like that I'm not sure I'd invoke it. I believe people have the freedom to smoke if that's what makes them happy.

Individual landlords can lay down whether or not smoking inside apartments is permitted. An increasing number prohibits it since it makes the apartment harder to sell afterwards, and its expensive to clean sufficiently if the smoker was a heavy smoker.

I had a neighborly chat with him, and he's agreed to open his windows while smoking. That's made it better, but the stench still builds up if I close mine. I'll talk to the janitor and see if I can't figure out how the smoke gets down to where I am, and whether we can't seal that connection somehow.


:doh: Sorry, I didn't realize you meant the connection.

Do you have central AC or heat? if so, that's how. Especially older buildings with a central furnace - they have to have common ducts.

Leonhard
09-18-2016, 11:13 AM
Do you have central AC or heat? if so, that's how. Especially older buildings with a central furnace - they have to have common ducts.

Nope no AC (we generally don't have those in Denmark) and no central heating... if you mean warm air coming out of ducts? We have radiators. This building is a odd. For instance the there's a small fusebox in my bedroom, and I have a suspicion the smell is coming from there (I was poking my nose around) trying to track it down, now that I have more energy and can move around again.

Leonhard
09-18-2016, 11:15 AM
My sinuses have been burning all the way through this flu, its starting to get really painful, which is odd because the fever is coming down. It feels as if I've snorted too much of something dry, like flour. Except the feeling isn't going away. Taking a combination of Ibuprofen and Paracetamol dampens it a bit, but its smarting somewhat.

Any good tips for dealing with that, and should I be concerned?

rogue06
09-18-2016, 11:38 AM
Have that fuse box checked pronto.

Leonhard
09-18-2016, 11:55 AM
Have that fuse box checked pronto.

Yeah its not a short, that much is clear. But you make a point, I'll try to get hold of the janitor tomorrow.

rogue06
09-18-2016, 01:28 PM
Yeah its not a short, that much is clear. But you make a point, I'll try to get hold of the janitor tomorrow.
I would seriously consider having an electrician look at it.

Jedidiah
09-18-2016, 03:30 PM
I would seriously consider having an electrician look at it.

Yes, it can be sealed to keep out odors that might come through it.

Teallaura
09-18-2016, 06:09 PM
Nope no AC (we generally don't have those in Denmark) and no central heating... if you mean warm air coming out of ducts? We have radiators. This building is a odd. For instance the there's a small fusebox in my bedroom, and I have a suspicion the smell is coming from there (I was poking my nose around) trying to track it down, now that I have more energy and can move around again.
I actually did know that central AC (maybe AC in general) is a relative rarity in Europe (cousins did some travelling there) but there are exceptions to every rule. In an old building, the space in between walls and conduits (don't forget switch plates) are a very likely possibility. Do they sell Great Stuff or the equivalent in Denmark? A little will solve any big leaks and cheap electrical box insulators might help as well.

Teallaura
09-18-2016, 06:11 PM
My sinuses have been burning all the way through this flu, its starting to get really painful, which is odd because the fever is coming down. It feels as if I've snorted too much of something dry, like flour. Except the feeling isn't going away. Taking a combination of Ibuprofen and Paracetamol dampens it a bit, but its smarting somewhat.

Any good tips for dealing with that, and should I be concerned?Try saline or something to moisten your nasal passages - it sounds like they are really, really dry. Decongestants can do that as can a number of other meds.

Leonhard
09-19-2016, 09:20 AM
Yesterday night I boiled some water in a pot, which I then carefully placed on my table. Then I breathed in the fumes from it, mostly through my nose. It helped a little, though I wish I had some eucalyptus oil to add to it.

I'm much better today, my throat is still itchy and dry, but its been clearing up too. Everything is on track. Thanks for the advice and prayer everyone.

DesertBerean
09-22-2016, 08:25 PM
Still get that fuse box checked.

rogue06
09-22-2016, 08:46 PM
Still get that fuse box checked.

:yes:

shunyadragon
09-25-2016, 05:26 PM
is that a california thing? because anywhere else in the world, if someone told you whether you can smoke in your own home or not, would be told to stick it where the sun don't shine.

Not totally, in many places there are 'no smoking' rentals. It is more common that people have to pay a higher deposit of higher rent to cover fire insurance and cleaning after smokers leave.

Teallaura
09-25-2016, 05:33 PM
Still get that fuse box checked.
Yeah, the house next to mine had an electrical fire last week - it did extensive damage.

Cerebrum123
09-26-2016, 05:41 AM
Yeah, the house next to mine had an electrical fire last week - it did extensive damage.

Had an electrical fire across the street around a month ago. Burnt down two houses and damaged a third. Thankfully no one was hurt.

DesertBerean
09-27-2016, 06:30 PM
Have that fuse box checked pronto.

:poke: