Are you really a Democrat or Republican?

[Binkster]

(I am aware that many of the people on here are neither-its just a title...)


This is a quiz that shows what political party your views line up with most. Its pretty cool.



http://www.3pc.net/matchmaker/quiz.html




Apparently Im not Republican (which I considered myself closest to), Im in the Constitution Party

[Sir-Think-A-Lot]

I got Green Party.

Many that test was annoying to take though.

[Eeset-Shadowgrl]

Reform Party. Problem is who will I have confidence in as a reformer?

[Binkster]

Many that test was annoying to take though.

huh?

[laffer]

Green and reform scored equally high with me. Then democratic party after those.

[Little Shepherd]

92% Libertarian, 71% Constitution, then 50% Republican were the 3 highest for me.

[bridgeforsale]

it's like asking are we dumb or dumber? I normally side with the party that's less dumb (that would be the dumb, or republican party). I guess the elephant does have a somewhat larger brain than the donkey (as far as I know anyway).

I guess the theory has always been if you have two parties at opposite ends of the spectrum (both at the extreme fringes of logical thought) you wind up somewhere close to the logical middle. Sadly it just doesn't work out that way.

First, what is the logical middle (and is it logical)? Second, negotiating from two opposite ends provides no guarantee that you'll wind up with a good solution ... just one that doesn't offend either side too much. Social security .... either privatize completely or keep in the hands of our dubious uncle Sam (neither a real good idea). Health care ..... either universal government ran health care or the current model (a hodgepodge of different and isolated care systems that is redundant and highly inefficient). It goes on and on .... making us dizzy with stupid talking points and an adversarial system that only works fairly well as applied to our legal system (and not necessarily our political system).

I just can't imagine what will break us out of this crappy system? The third party thing hasn't ever gotten off the ground. The so called mavericks like McCaiin aren't really mavericks (they're just populists). It's a never ending scam.

[Chaotic Void]

For me:

1) Green Party 79%
2) Natural Law Party 64%
3) Democratic Party 50%

[Sir-Think-A-Lot]

huh?

That test was a pain to take. I didnt like the way it was done.

I did mistype the first word it should have been 'man' not 'many'

[Zero Tolerance]

I'm an academic. I don't belong to a party.

[Crow]

1) Libertarian Party 81%
2) Constitution Party 67%
3) Republican Party 52%
4) Reform Party 48%
5) Green Party 38%
6) Democratic Party 33%
7) Natural Law Party 19%

[Binkster]

92% Libertarian, 71% Constitution, then 50% Republican were the 3 highest for me.

those were my three highest, but in a different order

[Binkster]

That test was a pain to take. I didnt like the way it was done.

I did mistype the first word it should have been 'man' not 'many'

oooooh.

it wasn't that many questions

[Binkster]

I just can't imagine what will break us out of this crappy system?

Nothing, its too late. We just have to wait for Jesus to take us away, or the US to end, or I guess we just die, which ever happens first.



The third party thing hasn't ever gotten off the ground. The so called mavericks like McCaiin aren't really mavericks (they're just populists). It's a never ending scam.

I don't think it will ever get off the ground, but its still interesting to see who you stand with most. I didn't like McCain or Obama...

[bridgeforsale]

Nothing, its too late. We just have to wait for Jesus to take us away, or the US to end, or I guess we just die, which ever happens first.

Well, I am sure that when Jesus comes the baloney will be over with (not only from our own gov't but from all governments). However, I would disagree with the idea that we should passively sit by and not stand up for what we believe is right. The only thing I would fault Christians for (although IMO this is mostly a past phenomena) is being too harsh & not approaching difficult problems in a more loving way.

For example, homosexuality. The fact is many people do not understand why it's important to stand against gay marriage. How can what two consenting adults do behind closed doors bother me right? The common Christian response is to try and justify this sort of prohibition using worldly logic. We'll go the way of the Romans or homosexuality will become pervasive in our society if we lax on things like gay marriage. The problem is when you justify things on these sorts of assertions you run the risk of being proven wrong. How can anyone know that allowing gay marriage in itself will tear us apart like the Romans or begin a slippery slope towards an exceeding "gay" country?

What ever happened to it's wrong because God said so? What ever happened to we need to listen to God regardless of what our own intuition has to say about it ... because God is God & He knows better than us the long term consequences of human behavior. There's no need to speculate on whether we will incur the wrath of God ... we can't know that for sure since if even Sodom had just ten righteous people they would have been spared. I can't imagine a situation where even our most liberal cities will ever have less than ten righteous people.

Even Catholic theology (arguably the largest single church who tries to remain true to timeless values) will say things like God is a passive observer who awaits our choices before acting. They (like many protestant denominations) follow the natural human impulse to explain divine providence. How is God in control if we have free will? Do we really have free will, etc.?

When we engage in sophism to explain God we shouldn't be surprised when the devil uses that opportunity to inject confusion into Christian thinking. We need to lovingly explain that the utility of God's commandments are not always apparent to finite humans. If we really trust God then we will obey Him without question. Christians need not be repulsed by any particular brand of behavior .... rather we should engage those who promote such behavior with a line of reasoning that leaves no room for sophistic innovation ... God is God & even if we don't necessarily understand why He tells us to live a certain way, if we believe in Him we must trust His judgments, period. There's nothing even wrong with saying that we don't like denying anyone a right to do something that is profoundly important to them & doesn't outwardly or imminently harm anyone else.

We simply should say that God, in His infinite wisdom, providence, and foresight prohibits sexually immoral behavior. We shouldn't try and explain why except to say if God commanded it then there's a good reason. If we believe in and trust God then we know He loves us; and therefore any command He gives us is ultimately for our benefit.


I don't think it will ever get off the ground, but its still interesting to see who you stand with most. I didn't like McCain or Obama...

I did support McCain only because I viewed him as the better of the two choices (not because I necessarily liked McCain .... frankly I think he's a whimpering populist). I do side with republicans most of the time because they have held firm with Christians (even if their economic policies aren't exactly perfect).

[Binkster]

. However, I would disagree with the idea that we should passively sit by and not stand up for what we believe is right.

As do I. But that logic can start to wander in my mind further and further into thoughts on God's sovereignty and free will....and then I go in circles. Blaaah! But, seriously, I do agree.



The only thing I would fault Christians for (although IMO this is mostly a past phenomena) is being too harsh & not approaching difficult problems in a more loving way.

I also agree here. I think many Christians just don't know how to handle situations with homosexuals. Especially because it touches home with many more people now than it used to. Well, maybe not, but from what I see, it seems so. I know a few people who I was very close to growing up and in high school they chose to become gay. It was strange to me. But they also knew what I stood for, which basically ended those friendships. I was never harsh, but I think I made them feel more uncomfortable than they made me feel uncomfortable.

Another thing many Christians don't understand is that people are people, and sin is sin. Love the person, hate the sin. Especially if they are not Christians. We have no place to judge those outside the church. Now if they claim to be a Christian, thats a whole other story.

Anyway, Im kinda starting to high-jack my own thread. There are a few threads on all this already....

[TyRockwell]

I got Constitutional Party, which is what good Republicans should be. But the Constitutional Party is not even an 'also-ran.'

And I know I don't agree with the 'license to do almost anything' ideas of the Libertarians. I'm staying Republican, but I'm going to try to improve them.

[TyRockwell]

I'm an academic. I don't belong to a party.
Zero Tolerance, you don't get invited to parties.

[TyRockwell]

Nothing, its too late. We just have to wait for Jesus to take us away, or the US to end, or I guess we just die, which ever happens first.
Jesus is NOT going to take us away! :thumbd: Christians need to bind things that heaven doesn't allow, and loose the things on earth that are allowed in heaven. Matthew 16:19

[bridgeforsale]

I also agree here. I think many Christians just don't know how to handle situations with homosexuals. Especially because it touches home with many more people now than it used to. Well, maybe not, but from what I see, it seems so. I know a few people who I was very close to growing up and in high school they chose to become gay. It was strange to me. But they also knew what I stood for, which basically ended those friendships. I was never harsh, but I think I made them feel more uncomfortable than they made me feel uncomfortable.

homosexuality is just another in the long list of behavioral traits that people don't like to talk about. In other words people are naturally embarrassed by our sinful nature (even though it's inherent in our humanity ... to spite how much we resist admitting it).

The problem becomes when we start defining sin as something other than sinful. This is IMO the slippery slope of deviating from the plain meaning of scripture & trying to infuse sophistic speculation into understanding God. Paul never appealed to philosophy or free will to explain the judgments of God .... the classic Pauline response was: "who are you oh man" to question God (followed by the infamous potter and clay analogy)?

I've seen theological gymnastics used that would make any Olympic gymnast envious; to explain away the volume of verses (like Paul's discourse in Rom. 9) in a way that's consistent with human moral agency. How can totally depraved beings have any real sense of moral agency? Any ability we have to obey God's commandments devoid of grace shouldn't be viewed as any more impressive than a monkey who can be taught to drink water out of a glass if he sees someone do it enough times. That monkey, to spite any level of training he or she receives, will still have sexual urges that will likely not be completely contained by any amount of training. That monkey will get hungry and will act on their own survival instincts (which may include acting violently), that monkey might still become angry and act irrationally if pushed, and so on.

Sure we have a bigger brain & are therefore more intelligent .... but beyond that (which is no more impressive than a dolphin brain ... except we have legs and are not contained to an aquatic existence) the only thing that can set us apart is grace. The only one we can thank or credit for that grace is God.



Another thing many Christians don't understand is that people are people, and sin is sin. Love the person, hate the sin. Especially if they are not Christians. We have no place to judge those outside the church. Now if they claim to be a Christian, thats a whole other story.

Anyway, Im kinda starting to high-jack my own thread. There are a few threads on all this already....

that is what Paul did say. I will admit that I generally support politicians who are socially conservative .... because given that we have the choice, it seems to me Christians are duty bound to select the course of governance that is more in line with our values.

You're right to say that we should not judge those outside the church. However, it's also important to understand the un-Godly will never like us (indeed they can only hate us). This is part of bearing our cross ...... worldly rejection. Even if they can't point to any particular thing we do that I guess invades their space, it won't matter. The Gospel is only good news to the people of God, to all others it's an offense.

[rogue06]

94% Libertarian (go figure), then Constitution Party

[Binkster]

Jesus is NOT going to take us away! :thumbd: Christians need to bind things that heaven doesn't allow, and loose the things on earth that are allowed in heaven. Matthew 16:19

That was in reference to the rapture, which I do hope you believe in...

I don't really understand your point, actually.

[Sir-Think-A-Lot]

oooooh.

it wasn't that many questions

It wasnt the NUMBER of questions. It was the drop box format I didnt like. It made too hard to tell which box went with witch question, and to pick the right one.

[T-Shirt Ninja]

1) Libertarian Party 87%
2) Constitution Party 67%
3) Republican Party 60%
4) Reform Party 33%
5) Green Party 27%
6) Democratic Party 20%
7) Natural Law Party 13%

[Number Six]

95% Libertarian. Oh yea.

[TyRockwell]

That was in reference to the rapture, which I do hope you believe in...

I don't really understand your point, actually.
The 'Rapture' to take us 'out' of our place in this world is not Biblical, and is NOT going to happen. Jesus is going to return to earth. We are not going there, unless WE DIE before he returns. Plainly and simply, that is what the Bible teaches.
Jesus left us here to "occupy til I come." Back. That is what he talked about, and what we should be found doing when he comes. Don't insert "for us" after "comes" or "return" as is often done. We will meet him in the air at his return. 1st Thessalonians 4:17

Jesus prayed for his disciples and all who would believe on him through their word, which includes us, in John 17:15. "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one."
He wants us to be occupying the earth, because it has always been God's plan that man will have dominion on the earth. Gen. 1:26 Too many Christians think it impossible, like you, who said that we can only look forward to leaving the earth behind. There are many things going on in this world that seem so evil and hopeless, that cause you to say, as you did, that "it's too late."

But with God, "all things are possible." And "Nothing is impossible to him that believes." It comes down to this: You really don't believe that it is possible to "make all Christ's enemies a footstool for his feet." However, it is the most repeated verse in the Bible, starting in Psalm 110:1. The rest of the more than 9 repeats of this verse, or parts of it, are in the New Testament.
Matthew 22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42-43, Acts 2:34-35, Romans 16:20, 1st Corinthians 15:25-28, Ephesians 1:22, Hebrews 1:13, Hebrews 2:8, Hebrews 10:12-13

Which means that God is serious about doing it through his children, us, because those same verses say that Jesus Christ is to remain seated at God's right hand until we get done what God wants us to do in putting evil spirits, principalities, powers, spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies, and the many antichrist spirits under our feet. Even Satan. Paul said, "The God of peace will soon [suddenly, quickly] crush Satan under your feet." Romans 16:20

While we keep failing to believe it we delay his return. Peter wrote that we could hasten (speed) his coming, in 2nd Peter 3:12-13. But instead of focusing on the fire, focus on "the new heavens and new earth wherein dwells righteousness."

That is enough for now for you to consider. I don't want to give you too much information at one time. Think about what these verses mean.

[Jo Ayanami]

Libertarian and Constitution Party
took it a few days ago and iirc I got 69% for both of those

[Binkster]

The 'Rapture' to take us 'out' of our place in this world is not Biblical, and is NOT going to happen. Jesus is going to return to earth. We are not going there, unless WE DIE before he returns. Plainly and simply, that is what the Bible teaches.
Jesus left us here to "occupy til I come." Back. That is what he talked about, and what we should be found doing when he comes. Don't insert "for us" after "comes" or "return" as is often done. We will meet him in the air at his return. 1st Thessalonians 4:17

Jesus prayed for his disciples and all who would believe on him through their word, which includes us, in John 17:15. "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one."
He wants us to be occupying the earth, because it has always been God's plan that man will have dominion on the earth. Gen. 1:26 Too many Christians think it impossible, like you, who said that we can only look forward to leaving the earth behind. There are many things going on in this world that seem so evil and hopeless, that cause you to say, as you did, that "it's too late."

But with God, "all things are possible." And "Nothing is impossible to him that believes." It comes down to this: You really don't believe that it is possible to "make all Christ's enemies a footstool for his feet." However, it is the most repeated verse in the Bible, starting in Psalm 110:1. The rest of the more than 9 repeats of this verse, or parts of it, are in the New Testament.
Matthew 22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42-43, Acts 2:34-35, Romans 16:20, 1st Corinthians 15:25-28, Ephesians 1:22, Hebrews 1:13, Hebrews 2:8, Hebrews 10:12-13

Which means that God is serious about doing it through his children, us, because those same verses say that Jesus Christ is to remain seated at God's right hand until we get done what God wants us to do in putting evil spirits, principalities, powers, spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies, and the many antichrist spirits under our feet. Even Satan. Paul said, "The God of peace will soon [suddenly, quickly] crush Satan under your feet." Romans 16:20

While we keep failing to believe it we delay his return. Peter wrote that we could hasten (speed) his coming, in 2nd Peter 3:12-13. But instead of focusing on the fire, focus on "the new heavens and new earth wherein dwells righteousness."

That is enough for now for you to consider. I don't want to give you too much information at one time. Think about what these verses mean.



I should have known your response was serious, as we do disagree on MANY things.

I believe there is a rapture of the church, and then the second coming (with the tribulation).

Once again, do (or don't) agree to disagree...

[Binkster]

...I should have made this into some sort of poll...

[TyRockwell]

I should have known your response was serious, as we do disagree on MANY things.

I believe there is a rapture of the church, and then the second coming (with the tribulation).

Once again, do (or don't) agree to disagree...

Someone told you to believe that, because it is not in the Bible, and you know it.

[Seasanctuary]

Almost fully Libertarian. Think I got docked for being pro-life.

[Binkster]

It seems that most are Libertarian and Constitution

[Conductor42]

1) Green Party 67%
2) Libertarian Party 60%
3) Natural Law Party 53%
4) Democratic Party 47%
5) Reform Party 47%
6) Republican Party 33%
7) Constitution Party 33%

I think this just confirmed what I've always known - I'm better off avoiding political "parties" and sticking with issue-based lobbying groups that are more effective in getting real change done anyways.

I certainly would *never* join the green party, the libertarian party has too many nuts, the constitution party is just a bunch of confused republicans and libertarians who could never run a government outside of a local level, I have no clue what the natural law & reform parties are all about, the democrats are a mixed bag - and so are the republicans.

[Darth Executor]

That quiz sucks. It was probably made by a libertarian since every quiz made by one somehow shows most people are libertarians. This matches well with my experience of libertarians trying to fabricate more support for their position than what actually exists. Except unlike liberals, nobody takes their lying seriously.

[Conductor42]

That quiz sucks. It was probably made by a libertarian since every quiz made by one somehow shows most people are libertarians. This matches well with my experience of libertarians trying to fabricate more support for their position than what actually exists. Except unlike liberals, nobody takes their lying seriously.
So... what'd you score as, sucker?

[Darth Executor]

So... what'd you score as, sucker?

I didn't take it at all, I just went through the questions, had a good belly laugh and closed the window.

[phaster]

for what its worth, these were my test results

1) Green Party 80%
2) Reform Party 60%
3) Libertarian Party 50%
4) Democratic Party 50%
5) Natural Law Party 50%
6) Constitution Party 40%
7) Republican Party 20%

[laffer]

I must have given some wrong answers last time I took the test (I did it in a rush, admittedly).. here are the exact results I got this time -

1) Green Party 88%
2) Reform Party 75%
3) Democratic Party 69%
4) Natural Law Party 63%
5) Libertarian Party 38%
6) Republican Party 31%
7) Constitution Party 31%

So the Republican Party and the Constitution Party are in a shared last spot on my list. I don't much about some of these parties, though.

[Conductor42]

I took the quiz again and got different answers, but I think it's somewhat accurate to describe me as a libertarian-leaning liberal.

1) Libertarian Party 75%
2) Green Party 50%
3) Reform Party 50%
4) Democratic Party 44%
5) Natural Law Party 38%
6) Constitution Party 38%
7) Republican Party 31%

[Dracula Girl]

This may not be exactly what I am, but here is what I got.
1) Green Party 83%
2) Natural Law Party 75%
3) Democratic Party 58%
4) Reform Party 58%
5) Republican Party 50%
6) Constitution Party 25%
7) Libertarian Party 8%

[Kenny]

1) Green Party 79%
2) Natural Law Party 64%
3) Democratic Party 57%
4) Republican Party 57%
5) Reform Party 36%
6) Libertarian Party 21%
7) Constitution Party 21%

[EverydayIsXmas]

Cool quiz. Thanks for posting the link.

[Chuck Lee]

I have Libertarian and Green parties tied at 64%, followed by the Reform and Constitution parties at 55%. Democrat and Republican fall last.

Of course I've never voted for Libertarian or Green candidates. I generally like a balance of Democrat and Republican. I did vote for Ross Perot (Reform Party) for president once though.

[Slave to God]

Hmmm I got Natural Law Party

[The Curtmudgeon]

They don't include Fine Gael in the list; I'm not playing. :hmph: :brood:

The (:hehe:) Curtmudgeon

[themuzicman]

78% libertarian/Conservative
72% republican