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The Coming Paradigm Shift on Climate
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New Study Shows Climate Change Largely IrreversibleThat's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
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Originally posted by seanD View PostSee, this is what I don't get about the proposed solutions to stop global warm... er... climate change. Assuming its legitimacy, how would a carbon tax (which is what was being proposed on an international level) stop climate change? Maybe if the global governments got extremely dictatorial and forced everyone, public and private, individual and corporation to abandon conventional means of energy, perhaps it might have made a difference. But aside from the "forcing" issue, then we're talking extreme disruption and ramifications of the industrial economies of the world. Assuming we would ever agree as to the legitimacy of man-made climate change, the solution seems impossible anyway.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostSee, this is what I don't get about the proposed solutions to stop global warm... er... climate change. Assuming its legitimacy, how would a carbon tax (which is what was being proposed on an international level) stop climate change? Maybe if the global governments got extremely dictatorial and forced everyone, public and private, individual and corporation to abandon conventional means of energy, perhaps it might have made a difference. But aside from the "forcing" issue, then we're talking extreme disruption and ramifications of the industrial economies of the world. Assuming we would ever agree as to the legitimacy of man-made climate change, the solution seems impossible anyway.
1. What makes you think preventing it would even be possible, let alone cheaper than simply adapting to it?
2. What is the reasoning behind the proposed sweeping government action in the preventions?
Interestingly, the answers to the above two points always seem to be assumed; there is never any reason given for why, for example, adapting to the change is totally out of the question. The equation, then, is this:
Anthropogenic global warming is a reality.
Therefore, broad government intervention is absolutely and unquestionably necessary.
It's a pretty big disconnect that I'm not sure how thoroughly I want to explore....I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Wait... some people still deny that tobacco is harmful? Seriously? I thought Thank You For Smoking was a satire by now."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI've been toying with the idea of starting a thread in Natural Science on a facet of the subject that, oddly, never seems to be touched. That is: given, for the sake of argument, man-made climate change, answer these two questions:
1. What makes you think preventing it would even be possible, let alone cheaper than simply adapting to it?
2. What is the reasoning behind the proposed sweeping government action in the preventions?
Interestingly, the answers to the above two points always seem to be assumed; there is never any reason given for why, for example, adapting to the change is totally out of the question. The equation, then, is this:
Anthropogenic global warming is a reality.
Therefore, broad government intervention is absolutely and unquestionably necessary.
It's a pretty big disconnect that I'm not sure how thoroughly I want to explore....
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It's worth noting that 'adapting to it' involves relocating millions of people or, at the very least, rebuilding their homes and infrastructure to accommodate new water levels.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostPossibly misunderstanding the goal? I don't know that it's reversible. We can keep from exacerbating it, though. I think that would answer both questions presented.
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It's worth noting that 'adapting to it' involves relocating millions of people or, at the very least, rebuilding their homes and infrastructure to accommodate new water levels.
But anyway, I don't know how much I want to pursue this right now. I'm rather ill-equipped to do it, anyway.
*Or some less clumsily verbose alternative....I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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