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Teallaura
03-31-2014, 10:47 AM
This came up in another thread. The assertion is that the 'thigh' in 5:21 and 22 is referring to the woman's genitals. The NIV translates it as 'womb' but Strong's and ISBE don't seem to support that.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3409&t=KJV

So, what is the term referring to in this passage?

:help:

John Reece
03-31-2014, 11:55 AM
This came up in another thread. The assertion is that the 'thigh' in 5:21 and 22 is referring to the woman's genitals. The NIV translates it as 'womb' but Strong's and ISBE don't seem to support that.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3409&t=KJV

So, what is the term referring to in this passage?

According to Jacob Milgrom in The JPS Torah Commentary: Numbers (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1990),


"Thigh" probably is a euphemism for the procreative organs (...), thus referring to the physical inability to beget children (...).

Teallaura
03-31-2014, 12:09 PM
Okay, thanks. Hmmm....

firstfloor
03-31-2014, 01:40 PM
This came up in another thread. The assertion is that the 'thigh' in 5:21 and 22 is referring to the woman's genitals. The NIV translates it as 'womb' but Strong's and ISBE don't seem to support that.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3409&t=KJV
So, what is the term referring to in this passage?
:help:
Hello again.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3409.htm
Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance
body, loins, shaft, side, thigh
From an unused root meaning to be soft; the thigh (from its fleshy softness); by euphem. The generative parts; figuratively, a shank, flank, side -- X body, loins, shaft, side, thigh.

Teallaura
04-01-2014, 07:20 AM
FF, I posted that - didn't dispute the possible understanding of genitalia (although it cannot be every case because it makes no sense). The question is what it means in the actual passage - and John posted a support for part of your reading.


It hasn't proven the abortion case by a long shot but I want to think about it before framing the next question.

firstfloor
04-03-2014, 01:27 AM
FF, I posted that - didn't dispute the possible understanding of genitalia (although it cannot be every case because it makes no sense). The question is what it means in the actual passage - and John posted a support for part of your reading.
It hasn't proven the abortion case by a long shot but I want to think about it before framing the next question.
No problem. I am sitting on my hands.

Teallaura
04-03-2014, 08:50 AM
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