Was Passover Lamb a Symbol of Jesus Christ

[BurntOffering]

In the Bible; when the Angel of Death killed all the first born son and beast alike, was the Lamb's Blood sprinkled upon the door post a representation of the later Blood Shed of Jesus Christ?

It is said; people should be careful regarding what they pray for; so in accordance to the new testimate, when the jews asks for Barabaus and said "Let the blood of Jesus be on their Hands and their Childrens; was the reason for the Holocust?

I mean, considering GOD killed all the first born and the Jews were protected, when it comes to the second death, foretold; will the Jews who still dont acknowledge Jesus Christ be taken next?

One more question if you dont mind; When God killed the men who touched the Ark of the Covenant to keep it from Touching the Ground & prohibited Moses from crossing over, cause he stuck the rock in anger to get water, was GOD angry at Moses because that Rock is a Part of Mother Earth, and like GODs Daughter. In other words does "Man" think his Hands are Cleaner and better than the Dust of the ground aka Mother Earth?

Peace out

[The Curtmudgeon]

Today @ 08:41 AM BurntOffering:

In the Bible; when the Angel of Death killed all the first born son and beast alike, was the Lamb's Blood sprinkled upon the door post a representation of the later Blood Shed of Jesus Christ?

Yes, it was. Notice how precise the instructions are about the location of the blood: on the lintel over the door, and on the two door posts of the house. Not on the door, not next to the door, not on the roof or around a window. Now, picture that in your mind, and you should easily see that (when you include the unstated but obvious fact that some of the lintel blood will drip down to the ground) it is in the form of a cross.

Whenever there is the sacrificial shedding of blood in the OT, it is always, at least to some extent, a prefiguring of the sacrifice Christ made on Calvary. This is especially true when the innocence and/or perfection of the sacrifice is emphasised, which is definitely the case with the Passover lamb.

My long-time pastor, Dr. W. A. Criswell, referred to this pattern as "the Scarlet Thread through the Bible," and even used that as the title of one of his books. One memorable New Year's Eve watch service, he started preaching at Genesis and went for more than four hours straight through to Revelation highlighting the Scarlet Thread.


It is said; people should be careful regarding what they pray for; so in accordance to the new testimate, when the jews asks for Barabaus and said "Let the blood of Jesus be on their Hands and their Childrens; was the reason for the Holocust?

This gets into debateable ground, but I would say "The Diaspora (their ejection from the land), yes; the Holocaust, no." It seems clear (well, to me, at any rate) that the destruction of Jerusalem and the subsequent Diaspora were the direct result of Israel's rejection of her Messiah. God punished Israel at the hands of foreign nations several times, and always for some rejection of Him on their part -- the worse or more extensive their rejection, the worse His punishment. The Northern Kingdom rejected Him almost completely, so as a kingdom they were utterly destroyed (yet His Word assures us that there are still remnants known to Him from every tribe). The Southern Kingdom was not so whole-hearted in their rejection of Him, but because many of them and especially their kings rejected His Laws and worshipped idols, He sent them into the Babylonian Captivity for 70 years. Other examples abound on smaller scales. It then follows that when Israel, as a nation, rejected His Son, His Messiah which they had been told down to the very year to watch for and who showed by His miracles that God had sent Him, then that could only call for a punishment nearly infinitely worse than the Captivity -- no promised end in sight (they were repeatedly told before and during the Babylonian Captivity that it would last only 70 years), and totally at the mercy of the Gentile nations.

But at the same time, it cannot be said that the violence of anti-Semitism and especially the Holocaust itself, was in God's plan for them. God tells Jeremiah (I believe it was him; I'm having a bit of trouble pin-pointing the specific text) that whenever He has appointed a foreign nation to punish Israel--and He makes it clear that other nations can only punish Israel, His Chosen People, when He allows--that nation has then chosen in its pride to go beyond the limits set by God for that punishment, and so in turn He has to punish or even destroy them for their unrighteousness. Germany, and anti-Semitism everywhere in the world (including, of course, current Islamic nations), is just what He was talking about: they go too far and take advantage of the fact that Israel is appointed to suffer.

People, and unfortunately for far too much of history including Christians, have adopted that "His blood be on us and on our children" text as an excuse for total license against the Jews. God has warned that He doesn't tolerate that, any more than He tolerates Israel disobeying Him.


I mean, considering GOD killed all the first born and the Jews were protected, when it comes to the second death, foretold; will the Jews who still dont acknowledge Jesus Christ be taken next?

I believe that it is still possible today for Jews who do believe in God's Messiah to be saved through faith that God will send Him, even if they do not recognise yet that He has already come once before (although, of course, when they see Him next--at His return or at their resurrection from the dead--they will know Whom they rejected). Many, of course, will argue with that. But even I believe that there will come a point in time when they must acknowledge Him or be lost eternally. I believe that God will judge every Jew, whether born before or after Christ's first advent, by his heart, and that many of those who reject Jesus as the Messiah only because they have been led astray by their teachers, will not be lost but will be accepted on their faith in God precisely as Hebrews 11 tells us that the ancient saints of Israel were saved by faith in Him, although they did not know Jesus.


One more question if you dont mind; When God killed the men who touched the Ark of the Covenant to keep it from Touching the Ground & prohibited Moses from crossing over, cause he stuck the rock in anger to get water, was GOD angry at Moses because that Rock is a Part of Mother Earth, and like GODs Daughter. In other words does "Man" think his Hands are Cleaner and better than the Dust of the ground aka Mother Earth?

Two somewhat different examples, but they can be summed up together as this: In both cases, God had given strict detailed instructions about what was to be done, and the person(s) did not follow God's word. And so they were punished.

There is no concept of "Mother Earth" with God. The earth is a created thing, and nowhere in Scripture is it ever personified. And many of God's actions toward the land show that He has no such respect for it as you seem to indicate, such as:


He cursed the ground for the sake of Adam's sin.
He tore open the fountains of the deep to help supply the flood waters for the Flood, besides opening the windows of Heaven. Most Christian geologists today recognise this as the cause of the separation of the continents (at Creation God had gathered the waters all together in one place, but that certainly is not the case today).
He told Moses to strike the dust of the ground to start one of the Ten Plagues in Egypt (the plague of flies).
He caused the ground to open up and swallow those who rebelled against Moses under Korah.
He told Moses to strike a (different) rock to provide water, in an episode only slightly earlier during the Wilderness Wandering than the one you mention.

The last example is especially telling, because Moses acted in the exact same manner in both cases, but one time it was okay and the other it was not. The difference was only that once God said, "Strike the rock" and the other time, "Speak to the rock". There's nothing intrinsicly wrong with striking the rock; it's disobedience to God that got Moses punished.

The (hope this helps) Curtmudgeon

[BurntOffering]

Yes it did help and answer a bunch, but for the record I never said GOD required the Holocust, but that Christian America and Other Nations, turned their backs on the Jews; because they believe the Jews Killed Jesus Christ or God, and so deserved what they got. (not that I believe that, Im just saying, Ive heard that although Hitler was not a religious man he used that excuse.

For some reason I think its truly possible; that just like GOD weeded them out and made them wonder in the wilderness for 40 years, due to their sins; that by the Holocust; all of the Real Jews (in God eyes) are Dead and cannot be reborn unless they Accept Him. (Jesus Christ) that is as the Son of God) which by the way is Not a Blasphemy to say such and never was.

And/Or an example to us and reason Jesus put out His Own Brothers and Diciples for laughing Him to Scorn after he raised the Ruler of the Synoguges Daugter from the Dead? and Said He would make them of snyaoges of Satan's.

Rev. 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee

I just have one more question as it relates to the Lamb or Jesus Christ as the Sin Offering; Do you think Satan the Angel of Death; who will be Sent and has A Loud Voice but is also called in the Bible the Burnt Offering, as God Other Kid, Escape Goat, and Lost Black Sheep within the Family?

Heb 10: 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Or why Jesus Christ said He would Cast None Other Burden upon you, but Satan as a Her/Him? 1

Rev. 211:22: Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

I mean after all; Why would a Perfectly Good, Sinless, Virgin 30+ Year Old Unmarried Man and Son of GOD as is said Cast Her into a bed; unless there was a little sumptin something in for Him?

Peace out

[Ian Potts]

"In the Bible; when the Angel of Death killed all the first born son and beast alike, was the Lamb's Blood sprinkled upon the door post a representation of the later Blood Shed of Jesus Christ?"

It certainly was - as 1 Corinthians 5:7 says "For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us".

I wrote an article on "Christ our passover" recently which you might like to take a look at: http://www.ipotts.freeserve.co.uk/ianp4.html

In Christ,
Ian