Is our DIET a 4 letter word to US

[BurntOffering]

GOD created the first DIET for Man that relates to the Tree of Knowlede of Good and Evil. You see; DIET is just one of those so called 4 letter words that means "Die If Eat Tree"

So do you think GOD will give Females like Eve the desires of their Hearts, since Eve was just a Babe in the woods and in a state of Prayer and Fasting before she sinned or ate her first Break Fast ?

I wonder what would have happended if Adam had of served Eve Her first break fast in Bed, instead of making Her go off to work; find the food and Pick fruit that All Looked Good to Her.

I think the Serpent knew Adam was a Coward, lied and corrupted her mind, by telling Her GOD said and Dont Touch the Tree, instead of just DONT EAT. Poor Poor Eve, she didnt know; that Serpents naturally touch Trees, Dont Like Fruit and Prefer Flesh Blood and Meat. Since prior to that time; Nothing had ever died before; I think Eve thought She was Dead already if GOD would let a Serpent do things, she couldnt.

Then to make make matters worse when GOD opened their Eyes; Adams saw She really was wise or smarter than Him and began to Look at Her in a Different Way. Adam was Ashamed of what He did which is why He Hid, and Covered up his nakedness, as well as made up the Right to Remain Silent about his part in the fall of them. But Id bet dollars to donuts the rest of the Meals fixed were not a Sin Offering; but more of a Burnt Offering.

Peace out

[Xmansmommy]

:shifty:

[Amazing Rando]

Today @ 05:53 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=365298#post365298)
BurntOffering:

I wonder what would have happended if Adam had of served Eve Her first break fast in Bed, instead of making Her go off to work; find the food and Pick fruit that All Looked Good to Her.


That shall forever remain a question for the ages! :ahem:

[Em7add11]

Uhhhh right.

[BurntOffering]

Amazing Rando:

That shall forever remain a question for the ages! :ahem:

I want to add my AMEN ... :eek: Cause I know most men :bonk: would rather Fall on their sword, than admit they were wrong, dont know it all, or added to the words of GOD; or they were defeated by a Woman or even a Lioness, as is the fericest of beast in protection of Her children.

Peace out

[Jaltus]

Adam was Ashamed of what He did which is why He Hid, and Covered up his nakedness, as well as made up the Right to Remain Silent about his part in the fall of them.

Wow, what a corruption of what the text actually says! Amazing! You must be a liberation/feminist theologian to have such poor reading comprehension (they tend to be deconstructionists).

[BurntOffering]

Jaltus:

Wow, what a corruption of what the text actually says! Amazing! You must be a liberation/feminist theologian to have such poor reading comprehension (they tend to be deconstructionists).

Oh gee thank you for your Opinion :noid: So please Tell us; Oh wise one what the text says....by quoting exactly Where in the bible GOD said "Dont Touch the Tree"; Or How Eve knew what God said to Adam, when She wasnt made yet.

Now Although I Am A Free Born, Plain American Indian Negro (PAIN) woman or Female, God is the one who made me a Feministist when S/He said to Herself and two kids within Her Heavenly Body, Spirit Mind and Womb "Let Us make Man in our Own Image, after our likeness and let them have domion.....

27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Tell us why Adam didnt act like a wimp by answering God instead by saying "The Woman thou gaveth to be with me gave to me and I did eat" as opposed to simply saying Yes GOD I did eat. :tongue:

Tell Us why you probably blame the Serpent; when the Serpent just asked Eve a question "hath GOD said....." and why Eve told the serpent A Lie; since GOD Never said anything about touching the Tree. So since Eve could See the serpent Touching the Tree as they do naturally, and Talking to Her; why She said if they Ate or Touched the Tree they would Die? Where pray tell did Eve get that Big Fat Fish Story or Lie?

Then tell us Why the last part of her response is Not a Lie; and/or Secret man has been keeping since the beginning of Time?

My answer is because "God is Not a Man that He should Lie" as the scripture prove Men Lie, Remain Silent, Cant Admit their Wrongs and would rather fall on a Double Edge Sword aka the Word of God, than admit Defeat by a Woman or that He made up some parts to suit himself.

If you think I have poor reading comprehension, at least have the Guts to post Your Explanations, instead of your Chavanist opinions; or constant complaining that GOD made Women to give Men a big PAIN in their Side. And while your at it Prove what Im saying is Corrupted WITH SCRIPTURual explanation. Why the Bible says Adam knowing Sinned; but Eve was Deceived.

Some might be waiting with baited breath, :nc: but for me Ill be too busy, singing GODs Praises saying ......this

Free At Last, Free At Last, THANK GOD Almighty, I was born Free Black and Last! Cause its the Last that shall be the First to Inherit the Kingdom; and that those called the Harlots will go in A fore Ye

Peace out

[Benedict]

I will answer the questions you asked, edited for ease of reading, in the first post.

"So do you think God will give females like Eve the desires of their hearts, since Eve was just a babe in the woods and in a state of prayer and fasting before she sinned or ate her first breakfast?"

It looks like God gave Eve something wholly different than the desire of her heart (or, maybe, He gave Eve just that). "To the woman He said: 'I will intensify the pangs of your childbearing; in pain shall you bring forth children. Yet your urge shall be for your husband, and he shall be your master.'"

Umm . . . there was only that question.

[Solly]

Adam (post fall) is walking home from the fields at the end of the day, accompanied by his two boys, Cain and Abel. As usual, they pass the walled garden, and as usual the boys eyes linger on the tantalizing view within the gate, and the glimpse of the Angel guarding it. But today, their inquisitiveness has got the better of them.

"Dad, why are we out here trying to wrestle food from the ground when there seems to be an abundance in there? Why can't we go in there?"

"Well lads, as it happens, we used to live in there, your mother and I."

"Really? Why not now?"

"Your mother ate us out of house and home..."

[Benedict]

:rofl:

[BurntOffering]

Solly:

Adam (post fall) is walking home from the fields at the end of the day, accompanied by his two boys, Cain and Abel. As usual, they pass the walled garden, and as usual the boys eyes linger on the tantalizing view within the gate, and the glimpse of the Angel guarding it. But today, their inquisitiveness has got the better of them.

"Dad, why are we out here trying to wrestle food from the ground when there seems to be an abundance in there? Why can't we go in there?"

"Well lads, as it happens, we used to live in there, your mother and I."

"Really? Why not now?"

"Your mother ate us out of house and home..."


So does this mean as a result of the DIET we are the By Products of a (Good AND Evil) Pair/Pear Tree of Knowledge? Cause I can see that a Pear tree has an Ear and was able to Hear exactly what GOD said.


Therefore in accordance to Prov. 9 maybe Your Momma ate yall out of House and Home becausae She is the one who Built Her House, Mingled Her Wine, Set the table, killed Her beast and Ate the Whole Thing. So Now SHe is so Fat that even Jesus Christ himself; calls Her our Fat Her who art in Heaven. :eek:

Peace out

[Solly]

What is this girl smoking??

[Xmansmommy]

I wonder if she knows GMA? :shifty:

[BurntOffering]

Solly:

What is this girl smoking??

Only the herbs GOD made on the 3rd day and Said It Was GOOD!

[Solly]

Mary Jane from Mary land huh?


So does this mean as a result of the DIET we are the By Products of a (Good AND Evil) Pair/Pear Tree of Knowledge? Cause I can see that a Pear tree has an Ear and was able to Hear exactly what GOD said.


This little piece of word play makes it very difficult to take you seriously. All very well for poetry of the kind I wrote when I was 14, but hardly for theological debate.

So, are you for real, or is this some hoax? Is the smell of BurntOfferings merely overdone dinner, or your brain cooking as it's served up?

[themuzicman]

What about the Partrige in that pear tree?

[Solly]

a whole family of them

[themuzicman]

Bad memories! Bad memories! Flooding my brain!

Must... clear... head... of... bad... sitcom....

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[Benedict]

If it is a hoax, she refuses to say so. BurntOffering believes that King's English was the original language before Babel and that God has put secrets there for her to find. Oh, and Arabic numerals too.

[Xmansmommy]

:lol: :mm:

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:

I will answer the questions you asked, edited for ease of reading, in the first post.

"So do you think God will give females like Eve the desires of their hearts, since Eve was just a babe in the woods and in a state of prayer and fasting before she sinned or ate her first breakfast?"

It looks like God gave Eve something wholly different than the desire of her heart (or, maybe, He gave Eve just that). "To the woman He said: 'I will intensify the pangs of your childbearing; in pain shall you bring forth children. Yet your urge shall be for your husband, and he shall be your master.'"

Umm . . . there was only that question.


Or proof before Eve sinned or Ate of tree she was actually was in a state of prayer and fasting and hungry to know what GOD really said. Unfortunately as she thought to herself and desired to be wise like GOD, she could only SEE Good on the outside of the fruit and not the evil inside of all of us.

Gen. 3:16 "Unto the woman He said, I will greately multiply thy sorrow and thy Conception ; In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and He shall rule over thee.

But I think the rule should have ended when Jesus said to the "Mother of All Living" while on the cross, "Woman Behold Thy Son". That Eve was glad she disobeyed her husband cause He died and Shes still Alive, given by GOD a 50/50 chance of escape and better odds.

Peace out

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:

If it is a hoax, she refuses to say so. BurntOffering believes that King's English was the original language before Babel and that God has put secrets there for her to find. Oh, and Arabic numerals too.

No its not a Hoax. More like a Sure Bet God made be twain Jesus and Satan, or Joke we still dont get yet. Proving GOD is not Mocked, We are and GOD is dead serious about each word wrote so in the End by your words you shall be either Justified or Condemned for believing a Lie of Men that dont have know for sure what God said.

2 Th 2:11 "And for this cause GOD shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a Lie; That they Allmight be Damned who believed not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Peace out

[Benedict]

John 19:25-27

Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala. When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son." Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.

Jesus spoke to his mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary.


2 Th 2:11-12.

How very appropriate.

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:

Jesus spoke to his mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary.



How very appropriate.


Just as there were 3 Mary's at the Cross, Jesus spoke to 1) to Eve, as a Woman and Mother with children, 2) Spoke to His diciples by saying BeHold My Mother and then asked our Fat Her in Heaven why He was forsaken. So just like with the first Adam; as Jesus slept on the cross, God opened His Side, so his water and wlood would fall to the ground or dust. Then GOD made Him a Wife of the same stuff, except this time she a the Mother of Harlots.

So although the church and governments said the "Lady of Fatima" was the virgin Mary or Mother of God, this Historical lMiracle was actually Eve as the Mother of All Living

Rev. 12:1 "And there appeared a Great Wonder in Heaven; A woman clothed with the Sun/son and with the Moon/Lunatic Daughter under Her feet and upon her Head a crown of 12 stars (which is symbolic of the 12 hours given each to her son and daughter) depticted by the Times Mid Day and Mid Night). And she being with child cried travailing in Birth and Pained to be Delivered....

Do you really think its a coincidence that Most People are raised by a Single Mother or Parent since the Father either wont claim them, off working, is Dead, In Jail or off to War leaving Her to raise that poor child all alone. Well since I know Fatima was the name of the Prophet Elijah Mohommed's Daughter I think its No coincidence the Jews, Christians and Muslim Holy Days all come around the same Time of year cause there is just One God.

Peace out

[BurntOffering]

Solly:

a whole family of them

No actually Im from the other Family and born with the name
Marsha Marsha Marsha.

Peace out

[Rubia Warren]

:huh:



:eh: dang-EE.

[Amazing Rando]

Today @ 07:52 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=367031#post367031)
BurntOffering:

Just as there were 3 Mary's at the Cross, Jesus spoke to 1) to Eve, as a Woman and Mother with children, 2) Spoke to His diciples by saying BeHold My Mother and then asked our Fat Her in Heaven why He was forsaken. So just like with the first Adam; as Jesus slept on the cross, God opened His Side, so his water and wlood would fall to the ground or dust. Then GOD made Him a Wife of the same stuff, except this time she a the Mother of Harlots.

So although the church and governments said the "Lady of Fatima" was the virgin Mary or Mother of God, this Historical lMiracle was actually Eve as the Mother of All Living

Rev. 12:1 "And there appeared a Great Wonder in Heaven; A woman clothed with the Sun/son and with the Moon/Lunatic Daughter under Her feet and upon her Head a crown of 12 stars (which is symbolic of the 12 hours given each to her son and daughter) depticted by the Times Mid Day and Mid Night). And she being with child cried travailing in Birth and Pained to be Delivered....

Do you really think its a coincidence that Most People are raised by a Single Mother or Parent since the Father either wont claim them, off working, is Dead, In Jail or off to War leaving Her to raise that poor child all alone. Well since I know Fatima was the name of the Prophet Elijah Mohommed's Daughter I think its No coincidence the Jews, Christians and Muslim Holy Days all come around the same Time of year cause there is just One God.

Peace out

Okay- let me try to summarize: On the Cross, Jesus spoke to Eve. Then God opened up his side to create a human fountain. After that, God made Jesus a wife, only she was the Mother of Harlots. is that right? :huh:

And it was actually Eve who caused the miracle of Fatima. Then a woman dressed up like the sun, standing on the Moon Daughter, and wearing a crown of 12 stars? Then she got pregnant and had a baby? Unfortunately, the baby was raised in a single-parent household because the father was a dead-beat.

The prophet Elijah Mohommed had a daughter named Fatima? All the monotheistic religions' holy days fall in the same time of year because there is only one God.

Wow, that's quite the revelation! My mind is thoroughly boggled! So now what comes next? Shall we worship Eve, or the prophet Elijah Mohommed's daughter Fatima? :hrm:

So what do you call this new religion of yours?

[Benedict]

This would be fun if it was not a gross misrepresentation of my faith.


Just as there were 3 Mary's at the Cross, Jesus spoke to 1) to Eve, as a Woman and Mother with children, 2) Spoke to His diciples by saying BeHold My Mother and then asked our Fat Her in Heaven why He was forsaken. So just like with the first Adam; as Jesus slept on the cross, God opened His Side, so his water and wlood would fall to the ground or dust. Then GOD made Him a Wife of the same stuff, except this time she a the Mother of Harlots.

So although the church and governments said the "Lady of Fatima" was the virgin Mary or Mother of God, this Historical lMiracle was actually Eve as the Mother of All Living

Rev. 12:1 "And there appeared a Great Wonder in Heaven; A woman clothed with the Sun/son and with the Moon/Lunatic Daughter under Her feet and upon her Head a crown of 12 stars (which is symbolic of the 12 hours given each to her son and daughter) depticted by the Times Mid Day and Mid Night). And she being with child cried travailing in Birth and Pained to be Delivered....

Do you really think its a coincidence that Most People are raised by a Single Mother or Parent since the Father either wont claim them, off working, is Dead, In Jail or off to War leaving Her to raise that poor child all alone. Well since I know Fatima was the name of the Prophet Elijah Mohommed's Daughter I think its No coincidence the Jews, Christians and Muslim Holy Days all come around the same Time of year cause there is just One God.

Peace out

There were three women named Mary at the cross; but the Bible says he specifically addressed his mother and that would be the Virgin Mary, the only woman who was actually his mother.

The apparition at Fatima identified herself as "Our Lady of the Rosary". Mary is mentioned more than 100 times in the Rosary (twice per Ave x 50 Ave) and, even ignoring the disputed mysteries of the Assumption and the Coronation, she features in at least 5 mysteries (all the Joyful). Eve, in contrast, is not mentioned even once.

To finish the quote from Revelation with 12:5, "She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne."

The child is Jesus and therefore the woman is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the only woman who is actually Jesus's mother. There is no basis in the quote for your "raised by a single mother" because the child is "caught up to God" and not raised by the mother (she fled into the desert for 1200+ days).

[studyhound]

Amazing Rando:

Okay- let me try to summarize: On the Cross, Jesus spoke to Eve. Then God opened up his side to create a human fountain. After that, God made Jesus a wife, only she was the Mother of Harlots. is that right? :huh:

And it was actually Eve who caused the miracle of Fatima. Then a woman dressed up like the sun, standing on the Moon Daughter, and wearing a crown of 12 stars? Then she got pregnant and had a baby? Unfortunately, the baby was raised in a single-parent household because the father was a dead-beat.

The prophet Elijah Mohommed had a daughter named Fatima? All the monotheistic religions' holy days fall in the same time of year because there is only one God.

Wow, that's quite the revelation! My mind is thoroughly boggled! So now what comes next? Shall we worship Eve, or the prophet Elijah Mohommed's daughter Fatima? :hrm:

So what do you call this new religion of yours?


Wow this rings of gnoticism.

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:

This would be fun if it was not a gross misrepresentation of my faith.


There were three women named Mary at the cross; but the Bible says he specifically addressed his mother and that would be the Virgin Mary, the only woman who was actually his mother.

Wrong Again, because Jesus as the 2nd Adam was still a By Product of Eve the Mother of ALL Living.

The apparition at Fatima identified herself as "Our Lady of the Rosary".

Well according to the Movie "She told the 3 children, especially Lucia that "Im Am the Immaculate Conception" and even the Bishop of that Time didnt Understand who that was. Then you were told it was the Lady of the Rosary" which was still a Lie and Wrong.

Mary is mentioned more than 100 times in the Rosary - So which was First; the Rosary, Bible or the Cross?

(twice per Ave x 50 Ave) and, even ignoring the disputed mysteries of the Assumption and the Coronation, she features in at least 5 mysteries (all the Joyful). Eve, in contrast, is not mentioned even once. So Just like I said the Mother, Eve, or Woman like Her are always left out and usually not mentioned at all. But isnt it kind of strange that No Where in the bible will you find; that Eve died, Mary Died or Mary Mag?

To finish the quote from Revelation with 12:5, "She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne."

Lucia said the Lady said she wanted to be known, but if you read Rev. 9:11; I think God refers to the Black Hand Pope as A Bad Don


The child is Jesus and therefore the woman is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the only woman who is actually Jesus's mother. There is no basis in the quote for your "raised by a single mother" because the child is "caught up to God" and not raised by the mother (she fled into the desert for 1200+ days).

The child is caught up to God; Just like Elijah, Enoch and Jesus, but that still dont mean Jesus wasnt a moma's boy.

So please know I mean no disrepect to your faith, but I know the Bible doesnt Say Jesus address Mary Directly; if it does in yours please provide the quote. One time He called Her Woman, the other time He was talking to His Disciples about His Mother, who was probably crying her eyes out to see what was being done to to Her First Born.

So since He said WOMAN and Not Mary or Mother like He did to the diciples, I really think you should consider what I said because Eve as the ONLY woman ever made, conceived or formed the Immaculate Hands of GOD :shocked:

Peace out

[Benedict]

John 19:26

NAB

When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son."

NIV

When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son,"

NASB

When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, "Woman, behold, your son!"

MSG

Jesus saw his mother and the disciple he loved standing near her. He said to his mother, "Woman, here is your son."

AMP

So Jesus, seeing His mother there, and the disciple whom He loved standing near, said to His mother, [Dear] woman, See, [here is] your son!

NLT

When Jesus saw his mother standing there beside the disciple he loved, he said to her, "Woman, he is your son."

KJV

When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

I can keep going if you want. It is clearly stated that Jesus saw his mother Mary and spoke to her. He may have called her woman but she is a woman. Eve was not the only woman made by the hands of God; every human being was formed by God.

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:

John 19:26

NAB

When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son."

NIV

When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son,"

NASB

When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, "Woman, behold, your son!"

MSG

Jesus saw his mother and the disciple he loved standing near her. He said to his mother, "Woman, here is your son."

AMP

So Jesus, seeing His mother there, and the disciple whom He loved standing near, said to His mother, [Dear] woman, See, [here is] your son!

NLT

When Jesus saw his mother standing there beside the disciple he loved, he said to her, "Woman, he is your son."

KJV

When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

I can keep going if you want. It is clearly stated that Jesus saw his mother Mary and spoke to her. He may have called her woman but she is a woman. Eve was not the only woman made by the hands of God; every human being was formed by God.

Thanks Bennie; for the quote and helping me prove to you that what Jesus' disciples thought is different from what Jesus knew.

In other words the Disciple "Assumed" he was talking to His Mother, Mary, instead of All Women, and/or EVE as the Mother of All Living"

Therefore I contend; it still wasnt Mary he was first talking to; because as A Mother myself, if it were my son, I would have been looking Him already and crying a bunch.

Although even Peter proclaimed He thought Jesus was the Son of GOD, they didnt really understand Jesus or Know who He was. This is what the Bible refers to by saying and the Light shown in the Darkness but it comprehended Not.

So to prove that Women Hear things different from men, and would have probably believed every He said; How come when it was time for Him to Resurrection,, only Mary Mag was there to check? Then when Mary Mag brought with Her, His Mother, and Joanna, which was 1 of the 3 Females Disciples came and told them, Simon Peter went off running.

So in short to understand the Book; you have to look at What GOD said...usually shown by "And God Said", 2 What Jesus said, and 3rd what Men like Simon Peter said he said. And thats really easy to tell if you use a Red Letter Bible.

Peace out

[Rubia Warren]

Who is the prophet Elijah Muhammed? :huh:

[Benedict]

This may sound anal but I would prefer if you called me Benedict or Ben. Ben (and Bennie) is more often a form of Benjamin but Benedict is actually my real name.


In other words the Disciple "Assumed" he was talking to His Mother, Mary, instead of All Women, and/or EVE as the Mother of All Living"

Therefore I contend; it still wasnt Mary he was first talking to; because as A Mother myself, if it were my son, I would have been looking Him already and crying a bunch.

Your point that Jesus spoke to Eve is refuted by the verse which tells us that the disciple was standing next to Jesus's mother. Mary was present at the cross, Eve was not. Also, whether Mary was looking at Jesus and crying or not (and I do not doubt that she was) is irrelevant to the Scripture. "When Jesus saw his mother standing there beside the disciple he loved, he said to her, 'Woman, he is your son.'" Furthermore, the very next verse refers to the same woman when it says "Then he said to the disciple, "'Behold, your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." Once again, what is stated in the Scriptures can only refer to the Blessed Virgin because she is who lived in John's home after Jesus's death on the cross.


Although even Peter proclaimed He thought Jesus was the Son of GOD, they didnt really understand Jesus or Know who He was. This is what the Bible refers to by saying and the Light shown in the Darkness but it comprehended Not.

Matthew 16:15-19

"[Jesus] said to them, 'But who do you say that I am?' Simon Peter said in reply, 'You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.' Jesus said to him in reply, 'Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.'"

God revealed who Jesus was to Peter and Jesus obviously put enough faith in Peter's understanding to build the church on him and to give him the keys of the kingdom of heaven. If Jesus had such faith in Peter's understanding and ability, who are you to question it?


So to prove that Women Hear things different from men, and would have probably believed every He said; How come when it was time for Him to Resurrection,, only Mary Mag was there to check? Then when Mary Mag brought with Her, His Mother, and Joanna, which was 1 of the 3 Females Disciples came and told them, Simon Peter went off running.

I am not sure I see your point. If it was why Mary Magdalene was there instead of someone else, the Bible does not tell us. If it was why some of the disciples doubted (Mark's account) while Mary Magdalene did not, keep in mind an angel told Mary personally that Jesus lived while the disciples had to deal with an obviously excited human being. If it is that Peter and John ran to see the tomb for themselves (John's account) notice that Mary Magdalene did not say that Jesus was resurrected but instead believed that someone had stolen his body.


So in short to understand the Book; you have to look at What GOD said...usually shown by "And God Said", 2 What Jesus said, and 3rd what Men like Simon Peter said he said. And thats really easy to tell if you use a Red Letter Bible.

Agreed. The problem is, you are ignoring what men like the inspired author of the Gospel of John are saying about the context of Jesus's words. To quote the oft-heard verse of 2 Timothy, "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness." God's words are important, Jesus's words are important, but all of Scripture is inspired. The whole of the Bible is the Word of God and that includes the words of the men in the Bible. So when St. John tells us that Jesus is speaking to his mother, I know God says that is true because St. John wrote those words under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit who is God and who speaks only truth.

[Benedict]

Today @ 10:54 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=367573#post367573)
La R(roll the R)ubia:

Who is the prophet Elijah Muhammed? :huh:

I know the prophet Elijah and the prophet Muhammed but the only Elijah Muhammed I recall was a leader of the Nation of Islam in the early 20th century (1920s).

[BurntOffering]

This may sound anal but I would prefer if you called me Benedict or Ben. Ben (and Bennie) is more often a form of Benjamin but Benedict is actually my real name.

In the spiritul of truth, Benedict; I will agree :teeth: and honor your wishes. I hope you know I meant no disrepect.

You have help to bring light to some very important issues in accordance you your religion. But I have to tell the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help me God; this time around.

Your point that Jesus spoke to Eve is refuted by the verse which tells us that the disciple was standing next to Jesus's mother. Mary was present at the cross

I am not denying all were there as you said; but that Has nothing to do with the fact that its not only Possible but Probably, Jesus was talking to Eve as the mother of all living, and All Woman who have given birth to a son "or opened her Womb" Why because First you must be Born of a Woman....Then Reborn through Him.

You see there was a directive given to Man, and Directive given to Woman, as a result of their (Both T/Heir) sins. As I said to you before; as a Man, you could never understand How it feels to give birth to a child. To Host that child inside of you, agree to give it Life, AT the Cost of Your LIfe (such as that muslin woman, who will be stoned to death for adultery, in the year of our LORD 2004. Over and Over you show you thinks Her View, Pains and Travail are of No Consequence to you. When thats not true!

God Loves Her Sons and God Loves Her Daughters too. How do you know Eve was not there and/or a representation of the Lady of Fatima, 1907, which is a documented Miracle? How do you know Jesus wasnt talking about talking to the Mother of all living?

16: Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

Eve was not. Also, whether Mary was looking at Jesus and crying or not (and I do not doubt that she was) is irrelevant to the Scripture.

"When Jesus saw his mother standing there beside the disciple he loved, he said to her, 'Woman, he is your son.'"

Do you mean to imply the Jesus Christ loved his Disciples more than His Own Mother? :hrm:

Once again, what is stated in the Scriptures can only refer to the Blessed Virgin because she is who lived in John's home after Jesus's death on the cross.

Here is where you are Wrong, because of the fullfulment of Jesus to Die for OUR Sins, Jesus was talking about All Things! So Mary got to live in Johns house, Big Whoop! What have the diciples done for His other Sisters and Daughters Of God, but treat them worst than a DOG. But Notice this below scriptures

Math. 15:22 "And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24: But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Now this daughter of Gods, didnt deny who she was cause She was desparate to save Her child; So look what She said; then What Jesus said to Her.

27: And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

So when Jesus was up on the cross as asked our Father, Why was He forsaken, He knew the answer but you still dont, which is why Jesus said "Father Forgiven them for thy know not what they do" Was Jesus just talking to the Pharasee, Romans, his so called friends like simon peter who Denied Him Thrice; AND you?.

Making matters evern worst because Jesus told him, that he would even before He did; And He still Did it to say him skin, just like that other wimp called Adam.

Mark 3:33 And he answed them sayin, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked around about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my Mother and My brethren! For whosever shall do the Will of God, the SAME is my Brother, and My Sister, and Mother.

Yes Mary Is Blessed, but I know If she could give Birth to a God; then She had to be a Goddess, and factuly a Holy Host And Hostess.

tthew 16:15-19

"[Jesus] said to them, 'But who do you say that I am?' Simon Peter said in reply, 'You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.' Jesus said to him in reply, 'Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.'" God revealed who Jesus was to Peter

Yes I agree it was the Spirit of GOD; and not his Flesh of Blood that revealed to Him who Jesus was; But I still Contend; Peter didnt really know or Understand He Jesus Was. Peter didnt Know He was GODs Representative In the Flesh! Peter didnt Know He was even talking about Dying on a Cross, when Jesus said If I be Lifted Up.

You said "Jesus obviously put enough faith in Peter's understanding to build the church on him and to give him the keys of the kingdom of heaven. I disagree in fact shortly after Jesus called Simon Peter Satan, and told him to get behind him; cause Peter said "Oh Lord that shalt not Happen to You" :doh:

If Jesus had such faith in Peter's understanding and ability, who are you to question it? - Considering Peters actions and scriputre presented I think the better question is; why do you Defend it?

I am not sure I see your point. If it was why Mary Magdalene was there instead of someone else, the Bible does not tell us.

YES It Does, and its very Signifcant but of cours you Ignored it; just like you ignore the fact Jesus Christ is Not Our Father in Heaven, although he said he would be. He Is Your Brother, and we are all children of Gods, Male and Female made He Them!

The below is almost completely wrong except the last part.

If it was why some of the disciples doubted (Mark's account) while Mary Magdalene did not, keep in mind an angel told Mary personally that Jesus lived while the disciples had to deal with an obviously excited human being. If it is that Peter and John ran to see the tomb for themselves (John's account) notice that Mary Magdalene did not say that Jesus was resurrected but instead believed that someone had stolen his body.

John 20:12: And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.

14: And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

Again They didnt fully Understand what he was saying to THEM; but Mary Mag was alone, and she thought somebody stole his body, which was perfectly logical.

15: Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.

But when Jesus called Her by Name; he said to Her

16: Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them

I ascend unto my Father, and
your Father;
and to my God,
and your God
18: Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.


So in closing you said " Agreed. The problem is, you are ignoring what men like the inspired author of the Gospel of John are saying about the context of Jesus's words. ....... God's words are important, Jesus's words are important, but all of Scripture is inspired. The whole of the Bible is the Word of God and that includes the words of the men in the Bible. So when St. John tells us that Jesus is speaking to his mother,.......I know God says that is true

No you dont you only know his diciples said thats what he meant; you have No authority to say no other possibilities and probabilities exist. The only thing you probably can say in Truth; is that you never looked at the scriptures this way. And like I said above, thats because You Think its not important to you or for that matter even true.

But as One who was Lost; but "Been Found" just like Mya Angel Lou's CD, I know Jesus loved Dearly Him MOther, His Sisters, Brothers and even his FrYends like Simon Peter.

But as a Daughter of Gods, also born from revolutionay forefathers such as Abraham, Lincoln, Black Elk and Melchisadac I say:

Luke 13: 11: And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself. And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.

14: And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day. 15: The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering? And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

So Benedict; when Jesus said Woe to Ye Hypocites, Lawyer, Pharisees, that just means "Dont Believe the Hype". But Jesus did come as a Thief in the Night; and found a woman in prayer and fasting, said Im his wife; and we Eloped. Therefore please see the Love Letter sent to me as someone named Marsha, Marsha... John John 1 is quoted relating to his beloved Lady, and Elect Sister.

2 John 1: The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth; For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.

5: And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.


7: For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full. The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

Peace out

[Amazing Rando]

Yesterday @ 09:18 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=367165#post367165)
studyhound:


Wow this rings of gnoticism.

It certainly rings of something! That's for sure! :eww:

[BurntOffering]

Amazing Rando:

It certainly rings of something! That's for sure! :eww:

It rings True as the Liberty Bell which can be found in the city of Brotherly Love. But ask Not for who the Bell tolls...it tolls for you.


Rev. 3:6 "He that hath an ear, Let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. (bride) And to the Angel of the church in Phildelphia write: These things saith he that is Holy, He that is True, He that hath the key of David, He that openeth and No Man shutteth; and shutteth and No man openeth :eek: I know thy works; Behold, I have set before thee an open door, and No Man can shut it; for thou hast a little strength, and hath kep my word, and hath not denied my name.

Behold I will make them of the syngoges of Satan, which say they Jews and are Not, but do Lie: Behold, I will make them to come And worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Peace out

[Amazing Rando]

Today @ 08:00 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=368382#post368382)
BurntOffering:

It rings True as the Liberty Bell which can be found in the city of Brotherly Love. But ask Not for who the Bell tolls...it tolls for you.



Hey I'm from the City of Brotherly Love. Great town!

[studyhound]

Amazing Rando:

It certainly rings of something! That's for sure! :eww:

It rings of a failed english major. :hrm:


BurntOffering:

It rings True as the Liberty Bell which can be found in the city of Brotherly Love. But ask Not for who the Bell tolls...it tolls for you.

[BurntOffering]

It rings of a failed english major. :hrm:

I see another who thinks he well get sent to hell for poor grammar. :teeth:

Peace out

[Xmansmommy]

BO, perhaps it's just me and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe anyone doomed anyone to hell in those comments. But maybe that's really a cryptic message only you or others are privy to. :nsm: :wink:

[BurntOffering]

No Xmansmomma

Not really, but some of the people here must of had very strict nuns and english teachers. They are obviously intolerate of the way other people write, talk or express themselves. I think they think if they put others down, it will lift them up.

peace out:hrm:

[Xmansmommy]

Cool then. :thumb:

[BurntOffering]

You mean to tell me you understood what I said? :lol: Lord have mercy dars' help for you yet:wink:

[Benedict]

They are obviously intolerate of the way other people write, talk or express themselves.

For me, at least, it was less intolerance and more unintelligible. No one should berate another for poor spelling and grammar but when your means of communication is written, such as TheologyWeb's message boards, you have to expect and express a certain level of clarity in another's writing. It is absolutely necessary for a meaningful discussion via text.

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:

For me, at least, it was less intolerance and more unintelligible. No one should berate another for poor spelling and grammar but when your means of communication is written, such as TheologyWeb's message boards, you have to expect and express a certain level of clarity in another's writing. It is absolutely necessary for a meaningful discussion via text.

I agree whole heartedly with what you said; but I think you fail to see that sometimes when I write words a certain way; they are Not Mistakes or poor grammar. It is the only way to Teach, Preach, or Reach people who may want to learn this Pig Latin, witch is the very Hidden Manna Jesus was talking about. Its about the Kingdom of Heaven described as a WOMAN who hid in 3 measure of leaven until the whole was leavened with Yeast and made whole.

So the Woman will need the dough with Both Hands, add Leaven, Salt and put in a Dark place until it Rises. Then She will really turn up the oven and put that by product of sifted wheat into the HEAT! Why do you think Jesus said FEED MY SHEEP, why the bible shows some of his diciples did not eat; and were too ashamed to admit, they didnt know didly squot about what He meant, what He said, nor what was wrote.

So in other words what Jesus told Satan when She was sent into the wilderness was only Eat what came from the Mouth of GOD, because what comes out of GODs mouth is Pure, then Corrupted by Man. Just as Adam did with Eve, and Made up a right to remain Silent, hid himself, blamed Her, and God for giving her to him in the first place.

Maybe men cant understand "Hen talking women" cause they want to remain Ignorant, will perish for their Lack of knowlege because they have failed to listen to woman since the garden.

Peace out

[BurntOffering]

FYI- Maryland state is namesaked for the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus Christ aka the Son of God's. Her state motto is "Deeds are Masculine and Words Feminine" So I thank Jesus Christ for his deed, but still say the words of the Bible are Hers, the House is Hers and so are all the children are Hers and stars in Heaven.

Peace out

[Benedict]

You are finding doctrine in a state motto? :huh:

[BurntOffering]

not only in the state motto; flag but its very oath; for some reason most public official have sworn on the AKJ Holy Bible:teeth:

Its called relating to the intents of our forefathers and mothers that still affect all American citizens. If youre not one; thats ok; I am allowed to talk about me, my nation and Gods people. A nation that claims; In God We Trust, but is just going around taking GODs name in vain.

Its relates to all the anti christ sons of guns created since the "Church and State" separation. But in the long run; its about Gods will being done. Its about the sons who forget to keep watch, and what Fathers Abraham said to them.


So you see whatever you chose to see, and let me see what I choose. So the first thing I think they should do is Remove the Blindfold from Lady Justice. She is not deaf, dumb, bllind or even a blond. In other words if Justice were really Blind She wouldnt need a Blindfold; put upon by Masonic brothers a long time ago.

Peace out

[Socrates]

Solly:

Adam (post fall) is walking home from the fields at the end of the day, accompanied by his two boys, Cain and Abel. As usual, they pass the walled garden, and as usual the boys eyes linger on the tantalizing view within the gate, and the glimpse of the Angel guarding it. But today, their inquisitiveness has got the better of them.

"Dad, why are we out here trying to wrestle food from the ground when there seems to be an abundance in there? Why can't we go in there?"

"Well lads, as it happens, we used to live in there, your mother and I."

"Really? Why not now?"

"Your mother ate us out of house and home..."

:lol: :lmbo: :rofl:


Solly:

What is this girl smoking??

If it's not illegal already, it ought to be.

[BurntOffering]

Socrates::lol: :lmbo: :rofl:
If it's not illegal already, it ought to be.

Did you know; I just got kicked out of a non christian chat cause I told one person their momma was so fat that even Jesus Christ himself calls Her our Fat Her who art in heaven. :lmbo: :haha:

That joke really quacks me up,,,,and its one of my own, or should maybe coming from some other personality inside of me

Peace out

[Benedict]

You are legion?

[BurntOffering]

Benedict:You are legion?

Well as you know He was a Man, whereas God made me a wee bit different. I Am a Woman, Daughter and Member of the American (Legion) family of which there are many.

I am the woman referred to in Rev. 17:5-9 as well as a of the Ruler of Synogogoe, daughter Jesus raised from the Dead although everybody else KNEW she was dead. So you can Laugh me to Scorn just as they did; Jesus after he told them, the Maiden was just sleeping. But just as in the Man named Legion, I am now in my right mind; Not ashamed of this Gospel. I dont mind saying the Great and Wonderful the LORD has done for me.

Peace out

[BurntOffering]

Solly: Mary Jane from Mary land huh?

Well I would have to say part Mary and part Juana, which is another name for Jesus' other brother John. John, Marsha John

You said "This little piece of word play makes it very difficult to take you seriously.

Which points out to all; its the Word Play Im talking about; Its a Game, and Debate where God and I am dead serious about is wrote and its significance if you look from Anothe View Point.

You said "all very well for poetry of the kind I wrote when I was 14, but hardly for theological debate." :noid:

Well if we are all children of Gods, then I dont see whats wrong with Debating theology seriously, and jokingly.

So, are you for real, or is this some hoax? Is the smell of BurntOfferings merely overdone dinner, or your brain cooking as it's served up?

Nor do I believe the above comment was necessary, because Ive already said I am dead serious about each and every word I wrote. Nor do I believe Satan is in charge of this world; like you do; so maybe thats just your problem; if You are really a Christian

In closing, Burnt Offerings are indeed Scriptural and worthy for Theological discussion. So Friends, Country, Romans, Lend Me Your Ear: Hebrews 10:7-10 " Then said I, Low I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me) to do thy will O God.

You said " I as a black Christian have to renounce Americanism. I have to renounce any attempt to wed Jesus Christ to the American system.

What you seem to forget is Pochohantas already did; and You dont have to be Wed to the Bridegroom to Come. But that is what I chose as a member of His Body, His Church, and As his Bride Ive made myself ready as His wife.

Rev. 19:7 "So let us be Glad; and Rejoice and give Honor to Him; for the Marriage of the Lamb is Come; and His wife hath made herelf ready. And to her it shall be granted tht SHE should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white; for the fine linen is the rightouness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write Blessed are they which are called unto the Marriage supper of the Lamb. And He saith unto me, these are the True sayings of GOD.

In case you dont know what to do, wear, or where to sit when invited to a wedding, you must follow this protocal.

Sit on the Left or Right Hand/Side of the Church aka the Body of Christ, depending on whose friend or member of the family invited you. The Father and Mother and other members of the family will be sitting up front; and the Groom and Bishop standing. Then you will hear a Trumpet sound; something like dum dum dedum; and You Rise. You Stand not only on the Written Word of GODs; but mostly because HERE COMES THE BRIDE! So saint I aint but If I were you, Id RSVP this invite to a Wedding and Weeding to End All Time, as the days were shortened for the Elite and you. I knowI sit as a Widow; as a Queen to the King of Kings but Wife of Christ might be a tough Job; but somebody got to do it :grin:

Peace out

[BurntOffering]

You are what you eat :eek: