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Same Hakeem
02-05-2018, 12:33 PM
Please nominate.

I will prove that the Holy Spirit is not God.

37818
02-14-2018, 06:42 AM
Please nominate.

I will prove that the Holy Spirit is not God.

What will it be? God is not a spirit or God is a Spirit (John 4;24) but not Holy? (also Acts 5:3-4; Romans 8:9, 16.)

Same Hakeem
02-16-2018, 12:28 AM
I am not going to debate any person here. If anyone is willing, please nominate.

Christian3
02-16-2018, 03:01 PM
Please nominate.

I will prove that the Holy Spirit is not God.

The prove it. What have you got?

37818
02-17-2018, 08:36 AM
To: Same Hakeem,

Then prove it. What have you got?

Same Hakeem
02-17-2018, 10:40 AM
To: Same Hakeem,

So please let us agree to debate if you are upto it.

37818
02-18-2018, 09:11 AM
So please let us agree to debate if you are upto it.

What is to debate? God is a Holy Spirit (John 4:24). Or do you deny He is a Spirit or that He is holy? I think the issue of the Trinity explanation needs to be addressed first. That would not be this debate.

Same Hakeem
02-24-2018, 02:17 AM
What is to debate? God is a Holy Spirit (John 4:24). Or do you deny He is a Spirit or that He is holy? I think the issue of the Trinity explanation needs to be addressed first. That would not be this debate.

I want to debate and I will prove that there is no God the Holy Spirit according to the Bible in particular Jesus.

Cerebrum123
02-24-2018, 04:14 AM
I want to debate and I will prove that there is no God the Holy Spirit according to the Bible in particular Jesus.

Wait, are you saying you think Jesus is the Holy Spirit according to Christianity?

Same Hakeem
02-24-2018, 09:07 AM
Wait, are you saying you think Jesus is the Holy Spirit according to Christianity?

No.

I would like to debate and prove that the Holy Spirit is not God according to the Bible and particularly according to Jesus own words.

Cerebrum123
02-24-2018, 02:20 PM
No.

I would like to debate and prove that the Holy Spirit is not God according to the Bible and particularly according to Jesus own words.

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

Christian3
02-25-2018, 04:48 AM
No.

I would like to debate and prove that the Holy Spirit is not God according to the Bible and particularly according to Jesus own words.

Then do it.

Same Hakeem
02-25-2018, 01:39 PM
Then do it.

please nominate or stand up.

Cerebrum123
02-25-2018, 03:15 PM
please nominate or stand up.

You don't have to do one-on-one debate on TWeb. In fact you can often get a better discussion with more people involved.

Christian3
02-26-2018, 06:16 AM
please nominate or stand up.

You are going to have to discuss this subject with everyone anyway, so you start.

37818
02-26-2018, 12:03 PM
Jesus said that God is the only true God (John 17:3).
Jesus said that God is a Spirit (John 4:24).
Jesus called God Holy (John 17:11).

Same Hakeem
06-09-2018, 11:42 AM
37818 stating that "Jesus said that God is the only true God (John 17:3)" is not accurate because in John 17:3, Jesus called specifically the Father (not God) "the only true God" as follows;

"After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:

“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

Jesus calling the Father "the only true God" proves that the Holy Spirit is not God.

Cale
10-24-2018, 12:49 PM
I think you need to clarify what you mean by your proposition that the Holy Spirit is not God. Do you, for example, mean the Holy Spirit is not God in person? Do you mean the Holy Spirit is not God ontologically? Jesus' declaration that the Father is the only true God is obviously a nuanced assertion. It must be because the Bible speaks factually about other persons as God. Or perhaps I should say the Bible speaks of other persons as GOD/god, recognizing that in the earliest NT manuscripts every letter of every word was capitalized and in the somewhat later manuscripts nothing was capitalized. The modern Christian practice of capitalizing the first letter only of "God" is intended to distinguish the person in question as belonging to the Trinity -- three distinct persons possessing ontological equality, two of whom have their origin in the third. (This is how the early church fathers understood the Trinity.)

Littlejoe
10-24-2018, 12:54 PM
This is not the correct area to debate. This is the area to determine who and what will be debated.