Christians: what will people do in Heaven?

[jimbo]

Hi TWEB Christians,

I am curious-what do you think people will do in heaven? Do you think that they will live in mansions, drive cars, have jobs, engage in sex, eat food and excrete waste? Will cigarettes be available? Will there be sports bars in heaven? Will people play sports in heaven? Will people have pets? Will they raise children? If so, will these children grow up or will they stay at the same age forever? Will there be schools or will everyone just know everything there is to know once they get to heaven? Will people just be disembodied consciousnesses communicating telepathically?

Now before you dismiss these questions as immature or silly, please reconsider. I think we can all agree that getting into heaven is a pretty important goal for Christians. I think Christians have a more-than-passing interest in what they will do once they get to heaven. After all, eternity is an awfully long time.

Thank you in advance for your thoughful responses.

Greg

[spl_cadet]

14 questions about Heaven. (http://catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0462.html)

[Freak]

We will be with Jesus (see John 14:1-4).

Thats enough for me.

[Snowball]

Schizo,

In heaven we will be with the love of our lives, namely, Jesus.

We will also be with all of our other brothers and sisters in Christ, including friends and relatives we had here on Earth.

We will eat, study, learn, socialize, love, work, sleep(?), freely explore the physical universe God has created for us, and do things that are currently unimaginable because our minds are so limited right now.

It will be a world similar to this, only without death, illness, destruction, darkness, etc. And, we will "know as we have been known" God.

Too bad you won't be there!

[Jin-Roh]

Lots of this:
:bow:

Revelation 7:9-11
After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb." All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying:
"Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!"


I have heard it said that there will be a time when evanagelists no longer avangelize, apostles no longer plant churchs and missionaries no longer have any place to go; but worshipers will never run out of anything to do.

[ItalianGold]

Snowball:
Schizo,

In heaven we will be with the love of our lives, namely, Jesus.

We will also be with all of our other brothers and sisters in Christ, including friends and relatives we had here on Earth.

We will eat, study, learn, socialize, love, work, sleep(?), freely explore the physical universe God has created for us, and do things that are currently unimaginable because our minds are so limited right now.

It will be a world similar to this, only without death, illness, destruction, darkness, etc. And, we will "know as we have been known" God.

Too bad you won't be there!

Clearly one of the most compelling posts I've seen here. How typical of the kind of self righteous, hateful rhetoric that leads so many away from Christian witnessing.

[Jin-Roh]

Clearly one of the most compelling posts I've seen here. How typical of the kind of self righteous, hateful rhetoric that leads so many away from Christian witnessing.

umm..
Maybe I should let snowball speak for himself, but I don't think that's what he meant.
:hrm:

[Allen]

If I did believe in God and in Heaven, I don't think I would want to know what heaven was like and I doubt that I would give it much thought. I think that I would just view it as "A draft Pick to be named later". :smile: After all, wouldn’t a Christian’s heaven actually be similar to extra innings?

Maybe it’s hard for me to grasp the complete concept, but I don’t think your God wants you to believe in him just because if you don’t then you won’t live forever. I thought that the religion was based on worshiping God and worshiping him more eternally.

[Captain Ochre]

03-08-2003 @ 04:44 PM
Allen:

If I did believe in God and in Heaven, I don't think I would want to know what heaven was like and I doubt that I would give it much thought. I think that I would just view it as "A draft Pick to be named later". :smile: After all, wouldn’t a Christian’s heaven actually be similar to extra innings?

Maybe it’s hard for me to grasp the complete concept, but I don’t think your God wants you to believe in him just because if you don’t then you won’t live forever. I thought that the religion was based on worshiping God and worshiping him more eternally.

Great post, Allen, though it goes without saying that heaven will have hot pizza growing on trees.

[johnransom]

03-08-2003 @ 10:44 AM
Allen:

If I did believe in God and in Heaven, I don't think I would want to know what heaven was like and I doubt that I would give it much thought. I think that I would just view it as "A draft Pick to be named later". :smile: After all, wouldn’t a Christian’s heaven actually be similar to extra innings?

No; it's more like we're in spring training now preparing for the start of the real season in heaven.

Maybe it’s hard for me to grasp the complete concept, but I don’t think your God wants you to believe in him just because if you don’t then you won’t live forever. I thought that the religion was based on worshiping God and worshiping him more eternally.

Correct, I would say.

[johnransom]

03-08-2003 @ 11:03 AM
Captain Ochre:



Great post, Allen, though it goes without saying that heaven will have hot pizza growing on trees.

Where will the cold beer grow?:lol:

[wienerdog]

I've always thought that in heaven, the coffee and popcorn will taste as good as it smells. :jade:

[Sozo]

All I know is, there will be no country music, and no cats.

[ItalianGold]

Sozo:All I know is, there will be no country music, and no cats. :rockon: :lol:

Let us not forget the other perks: No evolution vs. creation debates, no wagging fingers and threats of eternal damnation, no Jerry Falwell, no pseudo-intellectual atheists, no Left Behind books, no MTV, no evangelizing, no post-modern nihilists reducing the universe to a dice game, no Velveeta cheese, no cliques, no racism/sexism/nationalism, no designer clothes/water/drugs, no theology, no envy/hate/pain/guilt, AND NO CELL PHONES!!!

:teeth:

[Allen]

03-08-2003 @ 04:13 PM
ItalianGold:

Sozo: :rockon: :lol:

Let us not forget the other perks: No evolution vs. creation debates, no wagging fingers and threats of eternal damnation, no Jerry Falwell, no pseudo-intellectual atheists, no Left Behind books, no MTV, no evangelizing, no post-modern nihilists reducing the universe to a dice game, no Velveeta cheese, no cliques, no racism/sexism/nationalism, no designer clothes/water/drugs, no theology, no envy/hate/pain/guilt, AND NO CELL PHONES!!!

:teeth:

Hey, a few angels have been kicked out before so don't outrule anything just yet. :teeth:

[The Laughing Man]

I'm wondering why so many people are under the impression that once believers die, they will be in Heaven for eternity and nothing else will ever happen. The Bible clearly states that when Jesus returns, there will be a new Heaven and a new earth, and people will be given new resurrection bodies. I believe that it will be very much the same as it was before the Fall.

[Allen]

03-08-2003 @ 03:44 PM
Sozo:

All I know is, there will be no country music, and no cats.


At first I thought you were just bashing country music, but it becomes pretty funny if you meant it about this song~

If Heaven ain't alot like Dixie... :teeth:

[Allen]

03-08-2003 @ 05:21 PM
Jinx72:

I'm wondering why so many people are under the impression that once believers die, they will be in Heaven for eternity and nothing else will ever happen. The Bible clearly states that when Jesus returns, there will be a new Heaven and a new earth, and people will be given new resurrection bodies. I believe that it will be very much the same as it was before the Fall.

Does that mean that we will have to scarifice lambs again? :teeth:


If that's the case, just send me straight to hell. :cool:

[The Curtmudgeon]

Long ago, in English Lit classes at Jerusalem-on-the-Brazos, I discovered an early poem from Ireland (probably translated from Church Latin, although I disremember for sure now) that compared Heaven to a 'great ale feast' in glorious detail. Not talking about drinking to excess and getting drunk, but just in the celebratory nature of being with Jesus in Heaven: one great big eternal celebration of Jesus and what He has done for us by His sacrifice, with never a "morning-after" hangover!

I'll try to see if I can dig out the proper Lit book (if I still have it, but I believe I do) and quote the poem here later.

The (but it'll have to be good European ale, none of this American ditchwater) Curtmudgeon

[ItalianGold]

Jinx:I'm wondering why so many people are under the impression that once believers die, they will be in Heaven for eternity and nothing else will ever happen. The Bible clearly states that when Jesus returns, there will be a new Heaven and a new earth, and people will be given new resurrection bodies. I believe that it will be very much the same as it was before the Fall.

Hmmmmmm - which pre-Fall scenario do you imagine? No death? Everything and everyone vegetarian? What about that nasty snake?

[Sozo]

03-08-2003 @ 04:26 PM
Allen:




At first I thought you were just bashing country music, but it becomes pretty funny if you meant it about this song~

If Heaven ain't alot like Dixie... :teeth:

No, you were right the first time! Here is me and Garth Brooks :bonk: (I'm the one with the mallet)

[Allen]

03-08-2003 @ 06:02 PM
Sozo:



No, you were right the first time! Here is me and Garth Brooks :bonk: (I'm the one with the mallet)

I can understand you not liking his music, but how could you not like him as a person?

[Sozo]

03-08-2003 @ 05:23 PM
Allen:

I can understand you not liking his music, but how could you not like him as a person?

I'm sure he's a nice guy, I was just making a pitiful attempt at humor in regard to my distaste for country music. I do like bluegrass however.

[The Laughing Man]

03-08-2003 @ 04:29 PM
Allen:Does that mean that we will have to scarifice lambs again? :teeth:

Recheck the Bible. They didn't have to sacrifice lambs before the Fall because there was no sin. :wink:

[The Laughing Man]

03-08-2003 @ 04:36 PM
ItalianGold:Hmmmmmm - which pre-Fall scenario do you imagine?

Is there more than one?

No death?

Yep.

Everything and everyone vegetarian?

I would imagine.

What about that nasty snake?

Satan? He'll be tossed outta here.

[Allen]

03-08-2003 @ 06:34 PM
Jinx72:



Recheck the Bible. They didn't have to sacrifice lambs before the Fall because there was no sin. :wink:

All I know is that I ain't killing no damn lambs and spreading their blood all over the place to cleanse my sins. :thumb: If I was ever forced to do that then I would be signing up for Hell. :eek:

[Richard Romano]

This is a great topic for Christians. My question involves the fact of Christ being with us forever in eternity, and we'll see Him as He is.

I am looking forward to this time, for Christ is everything to me. But how will Jesus be able to interract with us all if there will be millions of people there? He is infinite and ominpresent, but we aren't. Certainly, we'll have different capacities, such as going through walls, like Jesus did after the Resurrection, and perfect bodies that will not be susceptible to pain or death.

If anyone can answer this question from a biblical point of view, I would very much appreciate that. Any other logical way of trying to grasp this is fine too.

God's blessings to you,

Richard.

[Snowball]

03-08-2003 @ 01:23 AM
ItalianGold:

Snowball:


Clearly one of the most compelling posts I've seen here. How typical of the kind of self righteous, hateful rhetoric that leads so many away from Christian witnessing.

You are mistaken on the sincerity of my last sentence, and you are also completely mistaken about what leads people away from Christian witnessing. But thank you for the benefit of the doubt, ItalianGold. :ahem:

[Allen]

03-08-2003 @ 11:35 PM
Snowball:



You are mistaken on the sincerity of my last sentence, and you are also completely mistaken about what leads people away from Christian witnessing. But thank you for the benefit of the doubt, ItalianGold. :ahem:

Some people just aren't very good salesmen/saleswomen.

[ryukyuk]

OMG lol this is hallarious heaven is the sky guys dont any of you read hebrew and all the stuff that yochonon(John) saw on patmos was in the sky he was seeing a vision in the sky lol
and everything he saw was not the way it is it was symbolic of what was to come the heaven you seek according to your religion is here you ARE THE NEW JERUSALEM. Now I have seen it all pretty much and feel that is what is wrong with todays religious leaders they dont take the time to teach you the way people thought and comunicated back then they just spoon feed you what will make you feed the offering plate god IMO is in us all we dont need a place to see him/ her / it once a week we can feel the energy flow through our bodies I used to be a minister and a christian then I saw more out there then just a HEBREW highbred faith

Plz dont flame me for my beliefs I am hoping that this board is open to opinions like most others are not

[Allen]

03-09-2003 @ 01:18 AM
ryukyuk:

OMG lol this is hallarious heaven is the sky guys dont any of you read hebrew and all the stuff that yochonon(John) saw on patmos was in the sky he was seeing a vision in the sky lol
and everything he saw was not the way it is it was symbolic of what was to come the heaven you seek according to your religion is here you ARE THE NEW JERUSALEM. Now I have seen it all pretty much and feel that is what is wrong with todays religious leaders they dont take the time to teach you the way people thought and comunicated back then they just spoon feed you what will make you feed the offering plate god IMO is in us all we dont need a place to see him/ her / it once a week we can feel the energy flow through our bodies I used to be a minister and a christian then I saw more out there then just a HEBREW highbred faith

Plz dont flame me for my beliefs I am hoping that this board is open to opinions like most others are not

What's up brother?

Most of these guys are very good about respecting other people. There are a few that will try to act above you though, but that is to be expected anywhere you go.

As far as what you just posted- I think it's crap. :teeth:

That’s just my opinion though. :lol:

[ryukyuk]

just like a brother lol fighting or arguing hehe anyway it was a post in general everyone is made of energy life at the simplest form is an atom which is nothing but pure energy all I was saying was that mabe the feeling of energy has created a need for something more I dont think anyone in particular is in control I feel like an invisible force is holding everything together not necessarily a being but more like a circuit we borrow and it lends when we are done we return to that power source and the energy recycles like what electricity does in a complete circuit:bonk:

[dawnghost]

03-09-2003 @ 06:31 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=30548#post30548)
ryukyuk:

just like a brother lol fighting or arguing hehe anyway it was a post in general everyone is made of energy life at the simplest form is an atom which is nothing but pure energy all I was saying was that mabe the feeling of energy has created a need for something more I dont think anyone in particular is in control I feel like an invisible force is holding everything together not necessarily a being but more like a circuit we borrow and it lends when we are done we return to that power source and the energy recycles like what electricity does in a complete circuit:bonk:

hey man, punctuate your post! it feels like you don't even catch your breath, slow down!

well heaven for me is a place where I'll finally be able to study music and won't have to read Philip Kotler anymore.

and then I'll finally launch my unblack metal band, with hints of Castlevania songs and spanish music! woooooo creepy stuff!! that would rule! :teeth:

[Woman]

I didn't see this thread when I posted the new one today "heavenly questions"

It has some specific questions to think about. But I have more now. Is my Grandma in heaven? I know her body isn't. Is she just asleep waiting for the final judgement?

[sandlewood]

03-07-2003 @ 02:58 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=29650#post29650)
spl_cadet:

14 questions about Heaven. (http://catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0462.html)

I just looked at a couple of these quickly. If I have time later I will read more. But I don’t see them as being very good explanations.

On the question about equality, the answer seems to be answering the question “will we all be the same?” “Equal” doesn’t mean “the same”. Then it says, “justice does not mean equality, but treating equals equally and unequals unequally.” That great. And who decides who is “equal” and who is “unequal”? Why God, of course. And if God decides homosexuals are unequal, then they are. And they will be treated unequally. But I forgot, there won’t be any homosexuals in heaven (unless they get “cured”). So I guess everyone in Heaven will be equal.

I also have always been curious about whether Christians in Heaven will be sad knowing that people they love may be suffering in Hell for eternity. Some Christians believe that God will erase their memory of those people (and they are happy with that prospect!). However, I’m unsure just what this web site is trying to say, as they never seem to answer the question clearly. Maybe they figure that if they write a detailed and vague enough answer, that most people will go away satisfied if not any wiser. Mostly the answer is just an assertion. Love is separated into two parts and the part that makes us sad is the part we just won’t have, by assertion. That’s nice. Just surgically cut away the parts of concepts you don’t like. Redefine things however you like. But how do you define your identity. How much can you change and still be you?

And on earth, pain and pleasure are strangely akin at their peak, like death and life. When a thing is enormously beautiful, it hurts.
Is anyone buying this?

Don’t get lost from the original point. What if your son or daughter ends up in hell, either by being an atheist or by being a follower of any one of the other religions of the world? Will you be ok with that? Depending on how you define Hell (and there are various definitions) he or she may be suffering endless agony with no hope of pardon. Do you think some modified version of the idea of love is going to change that?


What about boredom? I happen to like this article Where Do You Want To Spend Eternity? (http://www.infidels.org/infidels/newsletter/1999/june.html#Feature)

The answer at the 14-questions website is rather vague. You won’t be bored because you are exploring God and God is infinite? What’s that mean exactly? Numbers are infinite, too. Start counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... and see how far you get before you get bored. Time does not pass? What does that mean? How can anything change if time doesn’t pass? How can a thought be said to exist without time? Aren’t mental processes sequences of thoughts and ideas? Why be so quickly pacified with the vague answers this site tries to feed you?


People seem to be awfully forthcoming with details about Heaven that cannot have been inferred from the Bible. It seems painfully obvious that peoples’ description of Heaven is exactly whatever they want it to be. You never hear anyone say that they like 98% of Heaven but there are a couple things they don’t like about it—a good indication that it’s all made up.

[Sher]

Today @ 06:19 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=78879#post78879)
sandlewood:

But I forgot, there won’t be any homosexuals in heaven (unless they get “cured”).Quite right .... of course there won't be any heterosexuals either.


Mark 12:25 "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven."

[sandlewood]

Granted. Ok, there will be no gender in Heaven. Although that raises more questions about identity. What make you you? How much of it can be taken away or modified before you can say you are no longer you? I’m not saying I can answer that question. But it is one I think Christians should consider.

[HemofHisGarment]

03-08-2003 @ 12:00 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=29912#post29912)
Snowball:

In heaven we will be with the love of our lives, namely, Jesus.
We will also be with all of our other brothers and sisters in Christ, including friends and relatives we had here on Earth.
We will eat, study, learn, socialize, love, work, sleep(?), freely explore the physical universe God has created for us, and do things that are currently unimaginable because our minds are so limited right now. It will be a world similar to this, only without death, illness, destruction, darkness, etc. And, we will "know as we have been known" God.
I agree with this viewpoint....and I've always wondered about the visuals/colors/etc. once are eyes are opened...
:angel:

[sunflower sally]

i don't bother with trying to seriously contemplate heaven because jesus said if we can't understand earthly things we aren't going to be able to understand things of a heavenly nature (i'm sorry i don't have the refference for that, but certainly many of you know what i'm talking about?). and it makes sense to me that way.

but sometimes just for fun i contemplate it. i think it will be like earth, only with some obvious changes, such as no sex and no insecurities. and i probably won't be addicted to nicotine anymore!

[Zeluvia]

Long ago, in English Lit classes at Jerusalem-on-the-Brazos, I discovered an early poem from Ireland (probably translated from Church Latin, although I disremember for sure now) that compared Heaven to a 'great ale feast' in glorious detail. Not talking about drinking to excess and getting drunk, but just in the celebratory nature of being with Jesus in Heaven: one great big eternal celebration of Jesus and what He has done for us by His sacrifice, with never a "morning-after" hangover!

I'll try to see if I can dig out the proper Lit book (if I still have it, but I believe I do) and quote the poem here later.

The (but it'll have to be good European ale, none of this American ditchwater) Curtmudgeon
Suspicously similar to Valhalla?

[BurningBush--U]

Recheck the Bible. They didn't have to sacrifice lambs before the Fall because there was no sin. :wink:
and God provided the sacrifice

[BurningBush--U]

All I know is that I ain't killing no damn lambs and spreading their blood all over the place to cleanse my sins. :thumb: If I was ever forced to do that then I would be signing up for Hell. :eek:
despise God hum, sounds like edom.esau

[Shadow Phoenix]

Imagine a soldier in the army receiving word he's coming home. He calls his wife who is thrilled. Do they have plans for when he comes home? Surely! Those plans are secondary though. Why? The first point is that the lovers who long to be united are united.

When I get there, I will definitely be with the God I love. That is enough. I am sure him being omniscient and omnipotent and wanting to shower his grace and love on me has more than enough planned for me.

I recommend Peter Kreeft on this topic.

[jecoufal]

Sozo: :rockon: :lol:

Let us not forget the other perks: No evolution vs. creation debates, no wagging fingers and threats of eternal damnation, no Jerry Falwell, no pseudo-intellectual atheists, no Left Behind books, no MTV, no evangelizing, no post-modern nihilists reducing the universe to a dice game, no Velveeta cheese, no cliques, no racism/sexism/nationalism, no designer clothes/water/drugs, no theology, no envy/hate/pain/guilt, AND NO CELL PHONES!!!

:teeth:
But, gee, if we don't have "pain," how will we know joy?

[BurningBush--U]

There is No Heaven for the true Christian.

None

Zilch

Nada

Zero

Got it!?!

[l00l]

All I know is that I ain't killing no damn lambs and spreading their blood all over the place to cleanse my sins. :thumb: If I was ever forced to do that then I would be signing up for Hell. :eek:

That's Old Testament I believe. Jesus was the last blood sacrifice (Hebrews 10: 7 - 10) necessary of the descendants of Cain (who took no pleasure in it, being tillers of ground) to enter into the first tabernacle.(if I've got that right.)

Matthew 7:2 - For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Maybe Jesus atoned for Cain. (for the sins of the world)

[guacamole]

There is No Heaven for the true Christian.

None

Zilch

Nada

Zero

Got it!?!

Well. Who can argue with logic like that. Thanks for freeing me from the awesome burden imposed on me by my religious belief...

[OldShepherd]

Imagine a soldier in the army receiving word he's coming home. He calls his wife who is thrilled. Do they have plans for when he comes home? Surely! Those plans are secondary though. Why? The first point is that the lovers who long to be united are united.

When I get there, I will definitely be with the God I love. That is enough. I am sure him being omniscient and omnipotent and wanting to shower his grace and love on me has more than enough planned for me.

I recommend Peter Kreeft on this topic.

1. You beat me to it. Bintheredunthatgotthetshirtdontfit. Spent a number of years in the military and "what to do" was never a concern when I went home. Many times I was not able to visit everybody or do everthing I wanted to. There was just not enough time.

2. Once went fishing on a big lake in KY, fish were biting pretty good. My wife came down and said, "Take a break come and eat." She did not understand the concept of fishing. That is the break. I could eat any time. Didn't matter if the fish were biting or not. Quiet, peaceful, pleasant, water, wind in the trees, birds singing, no cares, etc.

So what does fishing have to do with the OP question? Take the joy, contentment, pleasure, relaxation, etc. from those situations, and multiply them infinitely beyond our understanding and that is what we will be doing in heaven.

And OBTW contrary to the teaching of a certain US grown sect, we will not be marrying an infinite number of wives, and siring an infinite number of children.

There ain't no heaven? That is not what Jesus said.

[Da Lone-Warrior]

Hi TWEB Christians,

I am curious-what do you think people will do in heaven? Do you think that they will live in mansions, drive cars, have jobs, engage in sex, eat food and excrete waste? Will cigarettes be available? Will there be sports bars in heaven? Will people play sports in heaven? Will people have pets? Will they raise children? If so, will these children grow up or will they stay at the same age forever? Will there be schools or will everyone just know everything there is to know once they get to heaven? Will people just be disembodied consciousnesses communicating telepathically?

Now before you dismiss these questions as immature or silly, please reconsider. I think we can all agree that getting into heaven is a pretty important goal for Christians. I think Christians have a more-than-passing interest in what they will do once they get to heaven. After all, eternity is an awfully long time.

Thank you in advance for your thoughful responses.

Greg

I think such speculation can be healthy. One could say it's similar to the forms of utopic thinking that have historically been influential in making social changes.

I think we will do Mathematics together in heaven and enjoy it in the same way we enjoy jump-roping. I think we will stress less on proving things once and for all, and more on the collation of alternative ways of proving things and learning more about how the human mind operates ideally in the process.

I think we will be in an alternative dimension where death and entropy have ended and we are all able to teleport so space dimensions will lose their meaning, while the rest of existence will expand too far and sink back into nothing just like it was before the Big Bang.

I hope to see you there Greg.

dlw

[BurningBush--U]

Well. Who can argue with logic like that. Thanks for freeing me from the awesome burden imposed on me by my religious belief...
dont take my word for it

go study it out in scripture

[LovingTheist]

I am curious-what do you think people will do in heaven?

Everything the Bible says and implies they will do, plus probably things that the Bible is silent on.

As for your questions, the answer to most of them is probably no.

[dizzle]

didn't you agree to abandon this account in favour of a new account, which new account was banned?

[Bagger_Vance]

Heaven has always sounded ghastly to me but I'm a lover of life. It seems everything that makes life great is stripped in Heaven. No risk. No unknown. No end. It seems like everyone in heaven becomes the only child that gets everything they want.

How do you improve yourself in heaven? You are perfect. What would you work for? You have everything you need/want. In short it sounds great in theory but is horrible in practice. I remember as a kid in school longing for summer to come. Blissful summer. No responsibility. Endless time to do whatever I wanted. I'd sit locked in a classroom listening to some teacher give me homework while looking out the window imagining the greatness of summer. About a month into summer I was bored out of my mind and wanting to go back to school. I also remember once announcing to my mother that I only wanted cherry koolaid from that point forward. She told me that I'd get sick of only one flavor but I merely laughed. Sick of my favorite flavor? Are ya kidding? She went on her grocery run and got me only cherry. By Wed. of the week I was longing for a grape!

Every idea of heaven I've seen is about like the fevered daydreams of someone stuck in a rut of life. But the risk, the work, the defeats, and the finite status of life is what makes it great. They are just as essential to the equation of life as the joys. Take away them away and the joys will just make themselves curses in an effort to balance out the equation.

[Carpedm9587]

Heaven has always sounded ghastly to me but I'm a lover of life. It seems everything that makes life great is stripped in Heaven. No risk. No unknown. No end. It seems like everyone in heaven becomes the only child that gets everything they want.

How do you improve yourself in heaven? You are perfect. What would you work for? You have everything you need/want. In short it sounds great in theory but is horrible in practice. I remember as a kid in school longing for summer to come. Blissful summer. No responsibility. Endless time to do whatever I wanted. I'd sit locked in a classroom listening to some teacher give me homework while looking out the window imagining the greatness of summer. About a month into summer I was bored out of my mind and wanting to go back to school. I also remember once announcing to my mother that I only wanted cherry koolaid from that point forward. She told me that I'd get sick of only one flavor but I merely laughed. Sick of my favorite flavor? Are ya kidding? She went on her grocery run and got me only cherry. By Wed. of the week I was longing for a grape!

Every idea of heaven I've seen is about like the fevered daydreams of someone stuck in a rut of life. But the risk, the work, the defeats, and the finite status of life is what makes it great. They are just as essential to the equation of life as the joys. Take away them away and the joys will just make themselves curses in an effort to balance out the equation.


I couldn't have said it better. People think I'm nuts when I tell them eternity sounds like a curse to me. Perfect joy sounds like a torture sentence. Life is delightful to me specifically because it DOES challenge me, and threaten me, and leave me with gaps I want to fill. An eternity of "adoring my maker" has zero attraction to me whatsoever.

Michel

[YeshuaMarine]

I couldn't have said it better. People think I'm nuts when I tell them eternity sounds like a curse to me. Perfect joy sounds like a torture sentence. Life is delightful to me specifically because it DOES challenge me, and threaten me, and leave me with gaps I want to fill. An eternity of "adoring my maker" has zero attraction to me whatsoever.

Michel

Sorry to hear that...you heathen you! :lol:

Guess thats your choice in the matter......

[Nanimose]

Snowball:


Clearly one of the most compelling posts I've seen here. How typical of the kind of self righteous, hateful rhetoric that leads so many away from Christian witnessing.
This Was Sent To Me By A Believer The Last part Made me chuckle


You have what it takes to make the grade.
You must study the law of God, all the scriptures until they are in harmony in your mind all as one law.
You must walk the walk and ask for support from Father God and ask Jesus the Christ to help you kill the demons that lurk in your spirit.
It's all about the Just and Holy Spirit removing through fire, the evil in your heart.
It's all a heart thing.
Live your life to obey God the best you can.
Ask for more understandings.
Be willing to leave and be left alone by family and friends for trade of the Great Gods Love and companionship.
You love him or you don't.
You have the eyes of man as your GLORY or Gods Heart.
You Pick!

Cheers, Your friend in Christ.
If you be not for Christ, not for God Everliving then may you be damned. Amen! BurningBush--U


The Nail in the Coffin that turned around my 4 years of wasted time, was the thought of the fact I'd be spending eternity with a bunch of idiots, how can you get more damned than that?

[YeshuaMarine]

This Was Sent To Me By A Believer The Last part Made me chuckle


You have what it takes to make the grade.
You must study the law of God, all the scriptures until they are in harmony in your mind all as one law.
You must walk the walk and ask for support from Father God and ask Jesus the Christ to help you kill the demons that lurk in your spirit.
It's all about the Just and Holy Spirit removing through fire, the evil in your heart.
It's all a heart thing.
Live your life to obey God the best you can.
Ask for more understandings.
Be willing to leave and be left alone by family and friends for trade of the Great Gods Love and companionship.
You love him or you don't.
You have the eyes of man as your GLORY or Gods Heart.
You Pick!

Cheers, Your friend in Christ.
If you be not for Christ, not for God Everliving then may you be damned. Amen! BurningBush--U


The Nail in the Coffin that turned around my 4 years of wasted time, was the thought of the fact I'd be spending eternity with a bunch of idiots, how can you get more damned than that?

Nice quote Narcissist. Lets see what God has to say when you stand before him on judgment day.

[Nanimose]

People with Individualist personality are vulnerable to Narcissism under the condition that they're unhealthy or aren't in control of themselves. I don't find myself better than all but better than christians that depend on fellowship as their main aspect of worship and service, people that think all they need to do is watch the religious channel to know about God, people that preach and people that seperate the bible. That is pretty much everyone I met that tells me they'll be in heaven. Socializing with Christians is nothing but a competition to see who can sound more pseudo religious, I bet after the first thousand years of continual flame you become immune and the normal people on earth will be able to bring some normal conversation into existance again.

[Nanimose]

preaching is what a christian should be doing since Jesus did, but the best and only advice I've could've ever gotten but never did was read your bible from front to back and don't listen to anyone until you know what it says. right off the back everyone wants to lead the baby christians by preaching their ears off, confusing, all opinionated and biased, but I guess that's the responsibility of the hearer. Preaching messes up what people know and learn, giving full attention to ONE person like their life isn't human too is complete bull, that church stuff is dumb. It says in the Bible that you're suppose to preach, sorry about that, I was wrong for talking bad about that. I'm done

[Da Lone-Warrior]

Imagine what would be possible in a world/alternative reality where the law of entropy is broken and teleportation is possible.

Heaven is not an ethereal otherworldy place, it will be material. This world is going to go back to where it came from before the big-bang, but that doesn't mean all is futile, a chasing after of the wind...

dlw

[Nanimose]

One last thing, God would be like "Wassup!", I have have no problem with God or Jesus but with almost everyone that believes in him, I figure I don't want to be anything like a theist and if almost all are crazy it must be the belief that's doing it, if my faith were to come back it'd prove to be stronger than all yours. Maybe I am Narcissist at the moment.

[Nanimose]

You must study the law of God, all the scriptures until they are in harmony in your mind all as one law.
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I stand corrected

[Bagger_Vance]

Imagine what would be possible in a world/alternative reality where the law of entropy is broken and teleportation is possible.

Heaven is not an ethereal otherworldy place, it will be material. This world is going to go back to where it came from before the big-bang, but that doesn't mean all is futile, a chasing after of the wind...

dlw

How do you know that heaven will be material? Is that hope projected as reality?

[Nanimose]

:lmbo:

[Carpedm9587]

Sorry to hear that...you heathen you! :lol:

Guess thats your choice in the matter......


I'm not sure anyone "chooses" what they find attractive... :huh:

[lilpixieofterror]

Hi TWEB Christians,

Hello Jimbo.

I am curious-what do you think people will do in heaven?

Not sure, Bible mentions little about it. However, I care little.

Now before you dismiss these questions as immature or silly, please reconsider.

Ok, I'll make you a deal. When I die, I'll send you a fax and answer every question here, deal?

I think we can all agree that getting into heaven is a pretty important goal for Christians.

I don't agree. A relationship with God is important. Heaven is secondary.

I think Christians have a more-than-passing interest in what they will do once they get to heaven.

I don't, Whatever goes on there, I'm sure it will be great.

After all, eternity is an awfully long time.

Indeed it is. As I said, the after-life matters very little to me.

Thank you in advance for your thoughful responses.

That's about as thoughtful as I can get with this. I'll try harder next time.

Crystal