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Ishmael
March 8th 2003, 10:49 AM
Did New Zealand Help Coverup Indonesian Massacres?
Keith Locke, Green Party

Published in the Otago Daily Times and the Evening Post, 23rd November 1998

http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/other4880.html



New evidence has put the spotlight on two past atrocities by Indonesian forces in East Timor.
The first incident concerns the killing of five foreign journalists in East Timor in October 1975. It now turns out Indonesian troops executed them in cold blood, contrary to the previous story that they’d been caught in “cross-fire” during the attack on Balibo.

This has naturally caused a storm in Australia because three of the journalists killed were Australians. Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has promised to further investigate the event.

Why hasn’t there been a parallel debate here? After all, one of the journalists killed was a New Zealander, Gary Cunningham.

Past Australian governments have been accused of downplaying the killings, and covering up what they knew, so as not to upset the Indonesians. Now, with the greater openness in Indonesia, the truth can no longer be concealed. Two very credible witnesses, one an East Timorese member of the Indonesian attacking force, have come forward and described how the journalists were taken into a house and executed.

New Zealand government documents show that our officials also played down the killings. On June 29 1976 the Secretary of Foreign Affairs wrote to his Minister, Brian Talboys, worried that the Australian government might seek compensation from Indonesia.

“If in fact the Australians do press ahead, largely in response to domestic political pressure, New Zealand will be faced with a difficult situation because of Mr Cunningham’s nationality.” To press a case, in conjunction with Australia “would harm our own relations with Indonesia”.

The Secretary proposed two ways to avoid this eventuality: firstly, to argue that there was “no clear-cut case against Indonesia” and secondly, to say that “Mr Cunningham, while a New Zealand citizen, was an Australian resident”..

Sixteen years later another New Zealand citizen, Kamal Bamadhaj was killed in the Dili massacre. Over 100 Timorese were also killed when Indonesian troops opened fire on protesters at a Dili cemetery on November 12, 1991.

Foreign Minister Don McKinnon didn’t respond strongly to that massacre. He said we should wait for the results of the Indonesian government’s inquiry. That inquiry turned out to be a farce, claiming only 19 protesters had been killed.

Our Foreign Minister was also very “diplomatic” in 1994, when a US court ordered the Indonesian general in charge during the massacre to pay Kamal’s mother, Helen Todd, $32 million in punitive damages. Mr McKinnon agreed only to ask the Indonesians “what they were doing about the judgement and if they are going to appeal against it.”

Now it’s been proved that the Dili massacre was even worse than first thought. The Sydney Morning Herald has provided evidence of a second and third massacre shortly after the cemetery massacre. The former Governor of East Timor, Mario Carrascalao, told the Herald of 20 to 50 wounded demonstrators being executed on a river bank, and the later burial of a “truckload” of Timorese at a rubbish tip.

What’s got Australian politicians up in arms is the Herald’s claim that Canberra knew of the further killings at the time, but publicly denied them.

Is the New Zealand government guilty of a similar public coverup? Our Foreign Affairs officials work closely with their Australian counterparts and may well have got information from them about the further massacres. There was clearly some internal interest in the issue. On December 10 1991 Mr Gibson of Foreign Affairs met with a visiting East Timorese resistance representative, Francisco Pang. The notes of the meeting, released under the Official Information Act, report Mr Gibson asking Mr Pang about “allegations of subsequent killings”. Mr Pang replied “that there was abolutely no doubt that they had occurred and noted that an American journalist had taken photographs of one burial site.”

Australia’s role in the cover-up of the subsequent massacres is will be looked by the Senate. The government and the Labor opposition agreed on a broad Senate investigation of the nation’s stance on East Timor since 1975. Shouldn’t we be conducting a similar inquiry here?

The Indonesian people are now reassessing the whole Suharto era. We should be conducting a parallel review of New Zealand’s relations with the Suharto regime, and particularly any coverups that we were part of.

We owe it to the memories of Gary Cunningham and Kamal Bamadhaj, two innocent New Zealanders killed by Suharto’s soldiers.





Keith Locke is the Green Party spokesperson on Foreign Affairs. The views expressed are his own.


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$cirisme
March 8th 2003, 01:10 PM
I wonder what Kiwi will say. :eek:

Rubia Warren
March 8th 2003, 04:54 PM
03-08-2003 @ 12:10 PM
cirisme:

I wonder what Kiwi will say. :eek:
Hmm.... he'll probably explain it away somehow, and nevermind. The US gov't will be way worse in his mind.

$cirisme
March 8th 2003, 05:14 PM
Nah, I was thinking something more elaborate than that... something like, "We'll this is obviously an attempt by the US government to discredit the perfect nation of NZ!!"

:ahem: :rofl:

Rubia Warren
March 8th 2003, 05:20 PM
ROTFL:rofl:

kiwimac
March 8th 2003, 07:47 PM
Calvinist,

It might help to get more up to date information. NZ's role in the situation in East Timor did indeed border on collusion but we recognised what we had done and we grew up a little more because of it.


AP: East Timor's president gets Maori welcome in first visit to New Zealand

East Timor's president gets Maori welcome in first visit to New Zealand

09/18/2002

WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) _ East Timor President Xanana
Gusmao pressed noses with indigenous Maori in a traditional greeting Thursday when he was given a full ceremonial welcome on his first official visit to New Zealand.

Bare-chested warriors bearing fighting clubs then challenged the former guerrilla leader. The fearsome traditional challenge is to ensure the visitor comes in peace.

Gusmao then watched a Maori war dance, known as a haka, by several hundred high school boys, before inspecting a military guard of honor as a 21-round salute was fired.

The ceremony marked the start of a two-day visit, which includes a formal state luncheon at Parliament in the capital, Wellington, and talks with Prime Minister Helen Clark.

Gusmao is expected to ask Clark to keep hundreds of New Zealand troops, who make up part of an international peacekeeping force, in East Timor.

The troops are scheduled to withdraw in November after three years, and the government has signaled that any further extension is highly unlikely.

Aid projects for the impoverished nation are also expected to be discussed, with an emphasis on helping the fledgling state rebuild its society, from tradesmen to judges and bureaucrats.

After East Timor voted in August 1999 for independence from Jakarta, pro-Indonesian militias slaughtered hundreds, and burnt down most of the capital, Dili.

Gusmao and Clark are expected to emphasize the ongoing need for international support for East Timor as it rebuilds.

Speaking at the state luncheon for Gusmao, Clark said she admired the president's capacity to forgive his nation's oppressors and become a ``force for reconciliation between East Timor and Indonesia.''

``After the hardship he endured in the long struggle for freedom, this spirit of forgiveness is inspirational,'' she said.

Gusmao thanked New Zealand for its peacekeeping efforts, and for helping train East Timorese to run their newly formed nation.

Gusmao leaves New Zealand on Saturday for the United States, where he is scheduled to make his nation's first speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 27 as the body's 191st member.

You may not like my posts with regards to the US/UK but at least they are up to date!

Kiwimac

$cirisme
March 8th 2003, 07:50 PM
Yeah, let's not forget that NZ is perfect and everyone is else isn't.

:ahem:

kiwimac
March 8th 2003, 08:13 PM
Ah Cirisme,

If only we could bottle what you speak, it could fertilise untold millions of hectares. I have never said NZ was perfect, indeed we are far from it. What we are doing is that we are slowly growing and learning what it means to be concerned citizens of the planet.

I am sorry you see my posts as anti-american, but I will not stop them. This "war against terror" is a farce Iraq was not involved with 11/9, nor has iraq supplied terrorists anywhere with any WMD.

kiwimac

Alden
March 9th 2003, 06:46 AM
If only we could bottle what you speak, it could fertilise untold millions of hectares.

Hello pot? This is the kettle, you're black.

kiwimac
March 9th 2003, 10:42 AM
And that means so much!

Kiwimac

$cirisme
March 9th 2003, 11:44 AM
I have never said NZ was perfect, indeed we are far from it.

Hello?

Ever heard of sarcasm?

:dufus: :ahem:


I am sorry you see my posts as anti-american, but I will not stop them.

Fine and dandy.


This "war against terror" is a farce Iraq was not involved with 11/9, nor has iraq supplied terrorists anywhere with any WMD.

Show me where I have argued either. :ahem:

Hitch
March 9th 2003, 12:34 PM
03-08-2003 @ 05:10 PM
cirisme:

I wonder what Kiwi will say. :eek: Why?

kiwimac
March 9th 2003, 07:50 PM
Because Cirisme knows what you have not yet learned, o Gras[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]cher, the words of Kiwi are true wisdom!

Kiwimac

$cirisme
March 9th 2003, 07:53 PM
Because Cirisme knows what you have not yet learned, o Gras[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]cher, the words of Kiwi are true wisdom!

ROFL!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If I hadn't made my pick of the day, this would be it.

You have one good sense of humor. :yipee:

Patroclus
March 9th 2003, 07:58 PM
If only we could bottle what you speak, it could fertilise untold millions of hectares.

Well, at least what cirisme has to say will have some productive value.

kiwimac
March 10th 2003, 02:54 AM
03-10-2003 @ 11:53 AM
cirisme:



ROFL!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If I hadn't made my pick of the day, this would be it.

You have one good sense of humor. :yipee:

Glad I could help cheer your day

:thumb:

Kiwimac

Solly
March 10th 2003, 12:04 PM
a Kiwi/Calvinist thread again; there's something going on here.