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Zymologist
03-08-2018, 07:55 AM
I found this recent study (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322755888_Who_enjoys_listening_to_violent_music_an d_why), examining the effects of death metal on listeners; both fans and non-fans. The results are fascinating, and indicate that the music will generally elicit two polar opposite responses. Here's the abstract:


Negative emotions are usually avoided in daily life, yet often appreciated in artistic endeavours. The present study investigated emotional experiences induced by Death Metal music with extremely violent themes, and examined whether enjoyment of this genre of music is associated with personality traits. Fans (N=48) and non-fans (N=97) listened to 60-second excerpts of Death Metal music and rated their emotional experiences. Compared with non-fans, fans experienced a wide range of positive emotions including power, joy, peace, and wonder. In contrast, non-fans reported uniformly negative experiences, including tension, anger and fear. Fans and non-fans were also distinguished by personality traits, with fans lower in conscientiousness and agreeableness, and in their motivations for listening to music. Results suggest that individuals with certain personality and music-listening motivations are drawn towards aggressive music with violent themes, and their enthusiasm for this genre promotes a range of positive emotional responses to this music.

Who enjoys listening to violent music and why? (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322755888_Who_enjoys_listening_to_violent_music_an d_why [accessed Mar 08 2018].

This rings true in my personal experience. Death metal is simultaneously an acquired taste (I took a while to get to where I'm at today), and also a style of music that most people simply won't "get," no matter how much they listen to it (although they might gain appreciation for certain elements). A song that I can find exciting, interesting, intricate etc. could repulse and disgust somebody else. I've been sharing a lot of music with a friend of mine lately, and he's been a remarkably good sport about it. He's what the study--and I--would classify as a non-fan of death metal: he finds it jarring and unpleasant, if not outright scary and/or repulsive. Although he's gained an appreciation for it that he didn't have before, he's probably one of those people who just won't really "get it," due to his personality. Kudos to him for giving it a shot, though.

Cow Poke
03-08-2018, 07:59 AM
Is it just noise? Are there lyrics? Are there bad words in the lyrics?

Zymologist
03-08-2018, 08:00 AM
Is it just noise? Are there lyrics? Are there bad words in the lyrics?

No, most of the time, and sometimes (though probably less often than you'd think).

Cow Poke
03-08-2018, 08:02 AM
No, most of the time, and sometimes (though probably less often than you'd think).

OK, so when we used to have these discussions back in the 'rock and roll' days, and I'd point out some of the horrific lyrics of some of the songs, the standard response was "well, I don't listen to the words".

Comment?

Zymologist
03-08-2018, 08:08 AM
OK, so when we used to have these discussions back in the 'rock and roll' days, and I'd point out some of the horrific lyrics of some of the songs, the standard response was "well, I don't listen to the words".

Comment?

Most of the time I don't actually listen to the words.

That said, I could find a variety of interesting lyrical subjects in death metal: mythology, history, politics, ancient Egypt, aliens and sci-fi in general, the work of Lovecraft or Tolkien, religion and philosophy, Star Wars...I could probably come up with more if I thought about it.

Sparko
03-08-2018, 08:19 AM
Is this the same as Screamo? cuz I can't stand that. But I think OBP likes it.

Zymologist
03-08-2018, 08:22 AM
Most of the time I don't actually listen to the words.

That said, I could find a variety of interesting lyrical subjects in death metal: mythology, history, politics, ancient Egypt, aliens and sci-fi in general, the work of Lovecraft or Tolkien, religion and philosophy, Star Wars...I could probably come up with more if I thought about it.

A tabletop wargame from the 80's, war (e.g., WWI or WWII), CS Lewis, ancient Rome....

Zymologist
03-08-2018, 08:22 AM
Is this the same as Screamo? cuz I can't stand that. But I think OBP likes it.

No, screamo is for angsty dweebs with ear gauges and skinny jeans.

Death metal is for men who can appreciate quality music. :smug:

Zymologist
03-08-2018, 08:36 AM
Before y'all conclude I'm a freak (too late, I know), let me add that I also like Celtic Woman and this, for example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2_jj-TkOIs

Sparko
03-08-2018, 08:42 AM
Death Metal, Violent music, Sumo... I am sensing a pattern here.

Keep sharp objects away from Zym.

rogue06
03-08-2018, 08:54 AM
Death Metal, Violent music, Sumo... I am sensing a pattern here.

Keep sharp objects away from Zym.
Don't forget juggling and unicycles (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?5427-Unusual-Skills&p=153538&viewfull=1#post153538)

One Bad Pig
03-08-2018, 08:59 AM
A tabletop wargame from the 80's, war (e.g., WWI or WWII), CS Lewis, ancient Rome....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKcuTNb2l_0

I think there's a couple based on The Wheel of Time, too (I remember one called Lanfear).

One Bad Pig
03-08-2018, 09:08 AM
Is this the same as Screamo? cuz I can't stand that. But I think OBP likes it.
I don't care as much for Mortification albums after Post Momentary Affliction because they switched from growl vocals to a more screamo type vocal.

Sparko
03-08-2018, 09:35 AM
I don't care as much for Mortification albums after Post Momentary Affliction because they switched from growl vocals to a more screamo type vocal.

I have no idea what you just said.

Magenta
03-08-2018, 09:39 AM
Interesting study. Thank you for sharing it. When I was a teen I listened to heavy metal music all the time. Of courses I lived a very different lifestyle at that time. The lyrics of the music was very important to me when I was listening to it. It could be because I was a girl. We tend to be a bit more on the emotional side or at least I am. I can still enjoy that kind of music but most of the lyrics not so much anymore. Music is a very unique thing. It amazes me how different people really are. I guess that makes life interesting.:sigh:

mossrose
03-08-2018, 11:00 AM
I have no idea what you just said.

All sounds very touchy feely emo, to me....

QuantaFille
03-08-2018, 06:36 PM
I listen to a lot of metal, but...

Well, I was going to say that I don't listen to anything with overtly violent lyrics, but then I realised that some of it is violent in a "God will crush his enemies" sort of way. But I don't listen to anything that is negative, or satanic, or that has profanity in it. Even the stuff I listen to that is sung in Finnish and the like has to have lyrics I approve of.

Funny story: My mother loves country music, and I absolutely hate it. So I was going somewhere with her one day, and she turns on country music in the car. I complained, and she proceeded to lecture me about how rude it is to tell someone else what they can and can't listen to in their own car, and she wasn't going to change it. Then some time afterwards, she was going somewhere with me in my car. So I turned on the heavy metal full blast like I always do when driving, and she said, "do we HAVE to listen to this garbage?" I told her she can't tell me what to listen to in my own car. She has never made me listen to country music ever again.

mossrose
03-08-2018, 06:44 PM
Tchaikovsky, 1812 Overture.

Because. Cannons and bells and general coolness.

One Bad Pig
03-08-2018, 07:32 PM
I listen to a lot of metal, but...

Well, I was going to say that I don't listen to anything with overtly violent lyrics, but then I realised that some of it is violent in a "God will crush his enemies" sort of way. But I don't listen to anything that is negative, or satanic, or that has profanity in it. Even the stuff I listen to that is sung in Finnish and the like has to have lyrics I approve of.
Yeah, I pretty much stick to Christian-themed lyrics, with only a handful of exceptions (Eluveitie, Iluvatar).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccxlG87101A


Funny story: My mother loves country music, and I absolutely hate it. So I was going somewhere with her one day, and she turns on country music in the car. I complained, and she proceeded to lecture me about how rude it is to tell someone else what they can and can't listen to in their own car, and she wasn't going to change it. Then some time afterwards, she was going somewhere with me in my car. So I turned on the heavy metal full blast like I always do when driving, and she said, "do we HAVE to listen to this garbage?" I told her she can't tell me what to listen to in my own car. She has never made me listen to country music ever again.
:hehe:

One Bad Pig
03-08-2018, 07:52 PM
Before y'all conclude I'm a freak (too late, I know), let me add that I also like Celtic Woman and this, for example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2_jj-TkOIs
We sing that on Great Friday, after the burial service.

Valaam has a few recordings in English:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XuOh59CMlY

KingsGambit
03-08-2018, 07:57 PM
When it comes to metal, I only like clean vocals and clean lyrics. (Or instrumentals.) That combination is rare, it seems.

rogue06
03-09-2018, 08:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84IowoW00w

Zymologist
03-12-2018, 08:59 AM
When it comes to metal, I only like clean vocals and clean lyrics. (Or instrumentals.) That combination is rare, it seems.

Epic doom, traditional doom, traditional heavy metal, or power metal might be what you're looking for.

Off the top of my head, Evangelist (https://evangelistdoom.bandcamp.com/) and Monasterium (https://monasterium.bandcamp.com/) are pretty great epic doom options, Pylon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxfVeChXWKU) is a really cool trad doom band, for more traditional heavy metal I think Eternal Champion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJyEuV7Alds), Visigoth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aWRh0IkRtc), and particularly Doomsword (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uugBwr1mcTA) are worth a look, and for power metal you could probably just google some bands there (I'm not a big fan of of power metal, but if you can stand the cheese it's usually pretty unobjectionable). Sinbreed, Sabaton, Kamelot, Orden Ogan are a few I can think of off-hand.

Faber
03-12-2018, 01:20 PM
Tchaikovsky, 1812 Overture.

Because. Cannons and bells and general coolness.

I'm kinda fond of Tchaikovsky's Opus 35 in D Minor. Oops, I thought you meant ...:violin:
:doh:

myth
03-12-2018, 06:29 PM
I found this recent study (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322755888_Who_enjoys_listening_to_violent_music_an d_why), examining the effects of death metal on listeners; both fans and non-fans. The results are fascinating, and indicate that the music will generally elicit two polar opposite responses. Here's the abstract:


Negative emotions are usually avoided in daily life, yet often appreciated in artistic endeavours. The present study investigated emotional experiences induced by Death Metal music with extremely violent themes, and examined whether enjoyment of this genre of music is associated with personality traits. Fans (N=48) and non-fans (N=97) listened to 60-second excerpts of Death Metal music and rated their emotional experiences. Compared with non-fans, fans experienced a wide range of positive emotions including power, joy, peace, and wonder. In contrast, non-fans reported uniformly negative experiences, including tension, anger and fear. Fans and non-fans were also distinguished by personality traits, with fans lower in conscientiousness and agreeableness, and in their motivations for listening to music. Results suggest that individuals with certain personality and music-listening motivations are drawn towards aggressive music with violent themes, and their enthusiasm for this genre promotes a range of positive emotional responses to this music.

Who enjoys listening to violent music and why? (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322755888_Who_enjoys_listening_to_violent_music_an d_why [accessed Mar 08 2018].

This rings true in my personal experience. Death metal is simultaneously an acquired taste (I took a while to get to where I'm at today), and also a style of music that most people simply won't "get," no matter how much they listen to it (although they might gain appreciation for certain elements). A song that I can find exciting, interesting, intricate etc. could repulse and disgust somebody else. I've been sharing a lot of music with a friend of mine lately, and he's been a remarkably good sport about it. He's what the study--and I--would classify as a non-fan of death metal: he finds it jarring and unpleasant, if not outright scary and/or repulsive. Although he's gained an appreciation for it that he didn't have before, he's probably one of those people who just won't really "get it," due to his personality. Kudos to him for giving it a shot, though.

Interesting. I listen to some similar stuff. Demon Hunter is my favorite at the moment.

Goulette
05-01-2018, 02:38 AM
In contrast, non-fans reported uniformly negative experiences, including tension, anger and fear.

Whenever I hear death metal, I experience tension due to guitars that somehow managed to overdrive and distort the sound of static, drums that sound like a random bunch of clanging, and vocals that .... sound like they are in a lot of tension.

I experience anger upon realizing that a drummer, guitar player, bass player, vocalist/singer shrieker, a producer, a record label, and the thousands of fans actually label that kind of noise as "music."

I also experience fear when I see that this music is still becoming more popular while the glory days of rock music (brought to you by the Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, Clapton, Aerosmith, and other real musicians) continue to fade into the background.

:serenade:

It continues to baffle me why some many people enjoy the sound of agony.