Diference Between Preterist and Amillennial Viewpoint?

[cloewen]

On Tekton Apologetics, I see much reference to the preterist viewpoint and am curious as to what the differences are between the preterist and the amillennial views are.

Just wonderin' :huh:

[dizzle]

Dear Cloe:

Hmm, I think you may be making a category mistake. Orthodox preterists can be amill, they are not technically mutually exclusive (though I would argue that unless it is an optimistic amill, it does not have great Biblical support).

Preterism, futurism, historicism, generally deals with the timing and nature of the Great Trib.

Amill, postmill, and premill generally deals with the timing and nature of the Millennium.

Two different categories.... does that help at all?

[Solly]

Me Miss, me Miss, I'll answer!!

Cloewen

I am Amill, and tend to the idealist interpretation of Revelation. Thru being here :huh: I mean, elsewhere, in discussion with DD, I have come to a praeterist acceptance of matt 24, that it refers to the fall of Jerusalem. Being Amill, unlike DD (though she can speak for hereself here), I also see Matt 24 (and par.) as involving a case of "this is that". That the end of the age/world will be similar. I am not swayed by the praetrist arguement for Rev yet, and still see it as requiring an idealist interpretation for the whole church age, though having roots in the 1st century.

I am decidely amill at the moment, seeing the end of the age as following the pattern of previous ages: ie not a place or time to book a holiday. As the ante-diluvian age, the Kingdom age, and the Second Temple age ended bad, so will the final one before God brings in his eternal kingdom in perpetuity.

But then, it could just be the usual British pessimism: in case of rain...

btw, welcome aboard. :hi:

[cloewen]

Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren
Two different categories.... does that help at all? [/B]

Yes, it does.

Next question: Can you recommend a clearly written theological work whether book or web site that explains the preterist viewpoint?

Also, (don't take this the wrong way) I was genuinely surprised to find in your sig that you hold to postmillennialism. You are actually the first Christian I've met (and I have met lots of them) that holds to that eschatological viewpoint. Again, any references would be appreciated.

Also, thanks to Solly for her input.

[Solly]

Originally posted by cloewen
Also, thanks to Solly for her input. [/B]

Her?

Must be the lisp sweetie, but I've never been called her before. LOL :rofl:

Admin, how about those male and female icons from chat, so we know who is what?

[cloewen]

Originally posted by Solly
[b]Her?

Must be the lisp sweetie, but I've never been called her before. LOL :rofl:

:blush: Oh, dear. Sorry 'bout that. You'll learn very quickly that putting my foot in my mouth is my spiritual gift.

[GrayPilgrim]

Hey, I share that spiritual gift too!;)

[dizzle]

Next question: Can you recommend a clearly written theological work whether book or web site that explains the preterist viewpoint?

Sure.. I would recommend Last Days Madness by Gary DeMar. It is a very well written awesome presentation of preterism. Don't read it though unless you really want to rock your eschatological world.

Also, (don't take this the wrong way) I was genuinely surprised to find in your sig that you hold to postmillennialism. You are actually the first Christian I've met (and I have met lots of them) that holds to that eschatological viewpoint. Again, any references would be appreciated.

Oh I do not take it the wrong way at all. I am a rare duck, I know that. However, I do think it is the most consistent view to hold with preterism. Hmm, postmill books are rare. I would suggest He Shall Have Dominion by Kenneth Gentry. I depart from him on certain points, but it is a good outline.

Also check out this site for some great article..

www.postmillennialism.com

Yes there are more of us... LOL

[Chief of Staff Lizard]

Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren [B]Sure.. I would recommend Last Days Madness by Gary DeMar. It is a very well written awesome presentation of preterism. Don't read it though unless you really want to rock your eschatological world.


Excelent Suggestion. :read: Appropriate Warning :thumb:

Edit why is everything double?

[Ishmael]

RC Sproul's book too...

[dizzle]

Cal, your signature line is a hoot!

[Ishmael]

Dee Dee Warren:
Cal, your signature line is a hoot!

I am glad you like it since you gave it to me.

[dizzle]

And since he changed his sig line my comment seems really dumb.

[dizzle]

Cloewen... any more questions or help needed?

[re4md]

Calvinist:
RC Sproul's book too...

The Last Days According to Jesus?

I thought Sproul is a partial preterist.

[dizzle]

Yes RC Sproul is an orthodox preterist.

[Ishmael]

re4md:


The Last Days According to Jesus?

I thought Sproul is a partial preterist.

Yes but partial preterism is "Preterism" in the classic sense. Full Preterism is contrary to the historic understanding of Bible prophecy. I think that the term "partial" was added after the rise of Full Preterism.

[dizzle]

You are absolutely correct Calvinist... and I refuse that label wholeheartedly. I reluctantly add the qualifier "orthodox" so that I am not mistaken as denying any orthodox cardinals of the faith. What I believe is what preterism has historicially meant for millennia, and as I have expressed before I resent the absconding of a historically "good" label for a relatively recent (and almost uniquely American) heretical aberration.

[Ishmael]

Great. I am about to open a thread on the Olivet Discourse... should be fun.

[cloewen]

Dee Dee Warren:
Cloewen... any more questions or help needed?

As I wrote to you personally, my ministry is in meltdown which is the only reason I've not been on the board. Tonight I counsel a man with an uncontrolled rage disorder. What fun. :help:

I'm also reading The Secret of the Strength, a book on the origins of the anabaptist movement and having my theological worldview blasted into the stratosphere.

I can just imagine what's going to happen when I read DeMar's book.

Looking forward to a universe of hurt, :thumb:

[Hitch]

Looking forward to a universe of hurt,


Naahhhhh DeMar is just the starting point of pain.

[dizzle]

Reading my stuff is where the real pain starts. LOLOLOL....

[Hitch]

You followin me???

[dizzle]

Yep. I am a terrible stalker.