TWeb member in need of your help

[themuzicman]

We have a beloved member and moderator at theologyweb that is a single mom who is trying deparately
to get back on her feet, and has been repeatedly knocked down by a variety of circumstances.

Linda, known here as xmansmommy, recently lost her only vehicle to a busted crank shaft. The car is
a 1990 Plymouth Voyager, and certainly not worth fixing. She doesn't have a job, now, although she
is in state aid for job training working towards that end.

However, if she misses 3 days of job training, she loses out on not only the job training, but her
welfare assistance.

Her church has assisted her with fixing her present car, but my impression is that the church is
small and not able to give out thousands of dollars to help a fellow member.

Which is where you all come in.

I'd like the theologyweb family to gather around a sister in need, and as a team buy her a car. Not
a new one, of course, but if we pool our resources, we could get her a car that will be reliable
enough to get her into a decent job.

My goal is to raise about $2100, so we can buy her a new car, and pay for the sales tax and license
transfer.

Now, I know that's a lot of money, but if 40 people gave $53, we'd have enough. If 20 gave $105,
that would work, too.

Obviously, not everyone is going to be able to help in the same way, but everyone can help.

If you want to help, PM me, and I'll give you the details (once I work them all out. :teeth:)

Michael

[themuzicman]

I talked to boom, and he said we can use Theologyweb's PayPal account, but be sure to indicate that the money is for XMM or Linda when you send it.

FYI, I'm in for $100.

[themuzicman]

I have found a 1993 Honda Civic that is $1900. With tax and license transfer, that's just over $2k. Once I have enough money, this is the kind of vehicle I'll be looking for.

Michael

[dizzle]

Michael I will do something. I am not sure yet what as we gotta work out some things here at home, but I will get with you on that.

[Rubia Warren]

I cannot afford to give 40 or 50 dollars or 100..... but I think I can at least give 10 or 20 dollars. I know it's not a lot, but I hope it helps. I don't have a paypal account, nor do I wanna open one.... but I will get it to yxboom Wednesday and he can do it for me.
Come on and give, people!

[NSMinistries]

I sent money by paypal but did not how to mark it for xmm's fund. I sent a PM to yxboom. Hope it helps....

Adam
NSM :nsm:

[dizzle]

If you cannot figure out how to mark it, shoot a PM to Boom and we will keep track of them.

[bar Jonah]

:rithumb::bunny::joy::yipee::joy::bunny::rithumb:

[Jaltus]

Instead of announcing who is giving, it makes more sense if TMM gives us a running total.

Some people may not want to say if or how much they are giving.

[themuzicman]

That's why I asked for PMs

[Rubia Warren]

Today @ 05:31 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=388743#post388743)
Jaltus:

Instead of announcing who is giving, it makes more sense if TMM gives us a running total.

Some people may not want to say if or how much they are giving.
I posted mine on purpose, not to make an announcement or to showboat or something, but to show to others who may not have 50 or 100 bucks to give that you can give less and there are others who have given less if they don't have it. Maybe someone who is discouraged because they didn't have what muzicman had hoped for knows that r00bz gave what she had, so they will feel cool to give what they have, even though it might be small in comparison to what others will give or have given. I didn't mean to come off in a weird way, like a trumpeter or something, I also hope that no one feels like they should announce that they gave or how much they pitched in.
I dunno about giving the running total..... I hope it ends up going beyond the original goal.
Give, people..... GIVE!

[luv1another]

well whatever I give is going to be nearly half of your money:sad:


and I did send a pm to you Muz but you didnt get back :tongue::teeth:

[themuzicman]

:bump:

[Solly]

That's a lot that is required. Just on the practicalities, do you have a deadline for when you need it, and a plan for what happens if you don't make the total figure - ie for redirecting or returning it?

[themuzicman]

That which does not come via paypal (i.e. check) can be easily returned via post (if you include a return address).

The rest will have be dealt with on a case by case, since tweb is receiving the funds via paypal.

However, we should not fail.

Michael

[Solly]

Hope we don't. I'll see what i can do. thanks for letting us know.

Btw, I take it this isn't a big secret... sm07

[themuzicman]

Not anymore... :doh:

[Xmansmommy]

Hey guys....I want to thank you all for helping me out in this difficult time. I'm trusting God will provide a way. No, it's not a secret, although I am very personal about things of this nature. I don't share personal struggles often as I usually keep them between God and myself. I didn't tell Muz for the purpose of asking for help, but as a friend who is struggling who needed some encouragement. I appreciate all your help Michael, thank you. And I appreciate the help you all are offering. My heart is truly touched that friends I've never met (and some that I have) are desirous to help me. :smile:

As for a time frame, I have borrowed a friend's car this past week which has enabled me to attend the program. I will have it at my disposal until Thursday of this week. I have one unexcused absence and I'm allowed 3. After an unexcused absence you are allowed 7 days to return to the site. If you don't return you are considered in non-compliance and they close your case. So from Friday of this week, I'll have till the following Friday to return. Then technically that will give me another week from then to return again. That will make 3 unexcused absences.
The major problem actually is not getting to the program, as it is in within walking distance. The problem is getting my son to daycare on the other side of town and then once at the program we are required to put in 3 physical applications daily. It's not so bad in better weather but it happens to be the dead of winter. :metro: Being on assistance, I don't have money for a taxi or the bus to get me around daily like that. I have been trying hard to get a job and become self sufficient but they do make it extremely difficult. :frown:

Anyway, I am ever grateful for the graciousness of you all whether it be in prayer or financial support. It means more than you know. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. :hug:

[themuzicman]

:bump:

[Bill the Cat]

Per request from Michael and with the OK of Linda, I am moving this thread to a fully accessible area

[themuzicman]

:bump:

[themuzicman]

We need lots of people to help. Every little bit gets us closer. Don't feel like you're not doing anything with even a small donation, because with everyone's help, we can do this!

[Xavier]

I really wish I could help XMM, but, as you know, I do not have any money to spare at this time...

But I can offer the next best thing, Prayer...

:pray:

[Xmansmommy]

Prayers are a great help as well X, so I accept them with great appreciation. Thanks to all who are praying.

[themuzicman]

Prayer is always welcome, too, X

[Queen]

:pray:

All I can do...sorry.......I wish I could do so much more, Hon.....

[luv1another]

wow I wondered where this thread went to... I think it got seen more where it was... maybe if we move it into diffrent forums each day diffrent groups of people will see it :shrug:

muz did you find out any more for me?

[themuzicman]

I talked to the woman in our office who used to work foreign currency at a New Zeeland bank.

She says that there is really only one secure way to send money, but it would cost about $60AU, and that's telegraphic transfer.

A check or a bank check wind up costing $80-$100US ($160AU?) to send.

There are two other options:

1) Find someone travelling from Australia to the US that has a US bank account, give them the money, and have them send me a check or money order once they get here. You'd have to trust the person coming to do it, however.

2) Buy bearer traveler's checks in my name from your bank, and mail them to me. (The problem here is that if they get lost, they may just be lost.) She wasn't sure about the final cost of cashing them, tho.


So, it's not easy or cheap. :bawl: :rant:

Michael

[luv1another]

thanks muz for finding out.
man it sucks being all the way over here at times. I am hoping that paypal will work without a credit card after a week or so... ok hope springs eternal :tongue:
hey if you send me your email addy I can try and send something to your email via paypal... It doesnt work with clicking the link from Tweb but it may work sending to an email... I could try anyway :smile:

[johnnybanano]

Hey guys, I just saw this. I'm not sure what I'll be able to send but I will be sending something. I am probably going to have to send a check to TMM, though. I don't have a PayPal account and my credit limit is only 150. That might sound like plenty but I have school and book expenses on that. But never fear, I am looking into the best way to get it there.

Linda has been a great reflection of Christ since I've joined TWeb. I have been inspired by her testimonies, and it will be a joy to be able to participate in this effort to help her out. I'm praying that everything works out!

Muzic, I'll be PM'ing you when I get the details of how I'll be contributing in order.

[Xmansmommy]

You guys sure know how to make a girl cry. :bawl: I am so blessed to know such wonderful folks as yourselves. My heart is touched and I thank God for all of you. Praise Him! :bow:

[Jaltus]

Practical question: WHERE THE HECK IS THE PAYPAL LINK!!?!!?!?!?

Thank you, I feel better.

[themuzicman]

I think it's https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=postmaster@theologyweb.com&item_name=TheologyWeb+Contribution&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=USD

[luv1another]

down the bottom of your screen it has contact us/ link to us/ support etc click support and it will take you to it :lol:

[bar Jonah]

Jaltus:
Instead of announcing who is giving, it makes more sense if TMM gives us a running total.

Some people may not want to say if or how much they are giving.
I agree with this principle and encourage everyone to follow this.

God bless you guys for seeking solutions for the Australia-U.S. situation! We don't have to give up! As we used to say in the Navy, "Creativity is authorized!" :thumb:

Xmansmommy:
You guys sure know how to make a girl cry. :bawl: I am so blessed to know such wonderful folks as yourselves. My heart is touched and I thank God for all of you. Praise Him! :bow:
Linda, I fear I am about to upset you, and I plead for your forgiveness if that is so. But sometimes, a man is faced with a dilemma and has to make a decision without "enough information," and be prepared to accept the consequences. With that in mind, I am going to go out on a limb. Not for you, but for your children.


Folks, I am going to tell you the bottom line in this. Like I just said, this is not simply about Linda. This is about her three children under her roof; the youngest one just turned four years old. I see his smiling face and it almost breaks my heart. She does not want me to say this.

People, the bottom line is this...

Linda and these three beautiful children are facing homelessness.

They almost lost their heat completely for a month, but almost by a fluke, they kept it. Now, if she cannot continue in the program, they will become homeless (barring a virtual miracle). She and the children will stay with friends and/or relatives for a while but will be looking forward to staying at shelters. In the winter. Up north.

This woman has been an incredible blessing to TW, an inspiration and quite frankly, one of my heroes! She has done everything she knows how, she has fought and scraped, and in return she has been kicked around, spat upon and derided by the very people whose job it is to help her! I cannot tell you the times I have (ashamedly) desired to take a baseball bat to their heads upon hearing their absolutely monstrous behavior toward her.

I'm sorry, Linda, I know you don't want me to let people know it is to that extent. And it's NOT right to betray that trust. But Christ broke the Sabbath Law for a reason -- because some laws are more important than others. And He made very clear what the two greatest commandments are. I love you, I love your children, and I will accept your being upset with me if it makes THIS happen. I will accept rebuke from anyone at TW, including the leadership. As much as those things would pain me, I can sleep at night a lot easier from that than I could if I don't speak up about this. I have wrestled with this for days, and I honestly don't know if this is the right thing to do. But God help me, I've made a decision, and I accept the result.

If this was only about Linda, I truly believe I would not be letting you all know this. But DARN IT, these children's well-being is at stake here. I cannot go another day without saying something.

This is NOT about guilting you into anything. I'm very serious when I say that. This is about the bottom line. Our sister in Christ and her children are in a very serious situation and they truly need our help. Need. I know things are tight, and I'm not asking you to put your own families at risk. Do not do that. If you do, you'd be dishonoring both Linda and yourself. But please, please take the above facts into account as you go to God asking for guidance on whether and how much to give of yourself for the well-being of the Body.

If this were paper, you'd see stains of tears... :bawl:

[Rubia Warren]

Amen, RightIdea. :thumb:
Pray about it seriously people.

[bar Jonah]

By the way, if I am wrong, please PM me and tell me so. I have already been challenged (by someone I love here at TW) about it. I ask for no free pass.

[luv1another]

RI, I think that in the circumstances I would feel that others should know the magnitude of this and I think as Christians we should be willing to help in anyway we can. I have placed this in my sig line to try and get more people to help.


Jam 2:15 Suppose there are brothers or sisters who need clothes and don't have enough to eat.
Jam 2:16 What good is there in your saying to them, "God bless you! Keep warm and eat well!"---if you don't give them the necessities of life?

[Dave G]

Yeh, I live on social security (less than 500 a month) and an auto shop just soaked me 350 dollars (all my money) for a brake job. I had to withhold paying my car payment and I'll scrape a little money out of that for you, Linda.
As long as we're fed and clothed and housed, then everything else is gravy!

:comfort:

[Xmansmommy]

This is exactly why I didn't want to do this. Dave...PLEASE bro don't do that. It wouldn't be right. I never intended this to be public. I had a hard time swallowing my pride and letting Michael post the original post. I am a very personal person. And my personal struggles are between the Lord and I. I never intended this to be like this. Please forgive me guys. :bawl: I am not even sure what emotions I'm feeling right now. But guys I appreciate everything and all your prayers....know that from the bottom of my heart. I'm so not desirous for others who are struggling to try to help me. I have a hard enough time accepting help from those who aren't struggling. :frown:

[Xavier]

Oh... XMM.... {{{{{{{{XMM}}}}}}}}}

:hugfly:

:grouphug:

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Xmansmommy]

Thanks :x: :hug:

[luv1another]

Xmm,
as I have told people here where I live when I have helped them, get over it :tongue: If people want to help then that is up to them. sometimes our pride has to take a backseat so that we can be helped. You have children to worry about Xmm, they come before anything else. Do you think it's Gods will for you to starve while another Christian sister or brother has plenty?
Im sorry Xmm but the God I follow is not like that. He gives us enough to help others... one day it may be you helping someone else... how would you feel if they were about to be thrown out on the street yet told you they don't want your help? especially if they had children.
Xmm I am sorry to speak this way to you and I hope it's not offensive but you have nothing to be sorry for. You do need to take a step back... you asked God to help how do you think he helps? through others... or did you think that he would send a lightning bolt? I believe that all of this happened because people are following what God wants.
I remember an email I got about a man being stuck on his roof in a flood and praying for God to help him. a few things happened like a man in a row boat came past and asked him to get in but he said no I am waiting on God... this continued till the guy eventually dies and he gets to heaven and asks God why he didnt save him... God replies I sent you a man in a row boat etc you just were not listening.

I think thats all I wanted to say about that. and if you would prefer I sent this via pM I will, but I thought that it would be good for all to see since it is people God uses to help others alot and some people may be missing blessing because they are waiting for something more obvious :smile:

I love you Xmm :hug: but I had to say this...sorry

[Rubia Warren]

Amen, luv! :thumb:

[Queen]

XMM,

It is good that we know, how difficult it may be.....

A friend of mine lost a friend, because he saved her life. He called the emergency number to find her in her house trying to take her own life. He lost her friendship over this, because she told him what she was about to do. She rescents him for that and he lost her friendship........but he saved her life. She is still pissed at him.

I understand from RI's post that he betrays your trust by telling this on Tweb:

Don't let this come between two friends :smile:. This is something that is NOT betraying your trust, but saving your life....THAT is friendship. Sometimes we have to hurt our friends in order to safe them. And believe me.....I know how RI felt when he was writing this down..........

:HUG:

You are in my prayers always....if I could I would take you in...but then you would have to swim the freaking ocean......

I love you, sis

Lots of Love, sunshine and God's blessings on this difficult road in life............
Queen

[Queen]

Amen Luv!.............You are a blessing :HUG:

[themuzicman]

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[themuzicman]

I think we're getting close to $300. We need everyone that can help to help, OK?

[markporter]

themuzicman:

I think we're getting close to $300. We need everyone that can help to help, OK?

I would, but I don't currently have a credit card that will let me do paypal, and I'm not sure that my parents would be too happy with me doing it through them, they get scared enough when I chat to people on MSN

[luv1another]

mark I don't have a credit card either... I am going to send a bank cheque or something to Muzicman :smile:

[markporter]

luv1another:

mark I don't have a credit card either... I am going to send a bank cheque or something to Muzicman :smile:

Hmm, can I do that with a cheque drawn on a UK bank?

[themuzicman]

The one thing to remember with sending money internationally is that it costs around $80US to cash an international check. It's under $50US to send via wire, but there is still a cost there.

The only other option I was told of was bearer traveller's checks, but unless there is some insurance against losing the, there is that risk of losing them via post.

So, be sure you consider these things before sending money internationally. A check for $50 would cost me more to cash it than it is worth...

Michael

[luv1another]

Muz :smile:
I have sent money to USA before you can get amoney order thing In USA currency I forget the right name for them but they make them out in the person your payings name in US currency and you pay the fees before sending them they cost about $40 aussie and so if I sent $50 and paid the costs here it would be $50 and you wouldn't pay anything as far as I know I can ask the person I sent it to though to make sure :smile:
I also would need you first and last name to do that though :smile: Anyway Im going to go in tommorrow and work it out and can post more on it after that :thumb:

[markporter]

themuzicman:

The one thing to remember with sending money internationally is that it costs around $80US to cash an international check. It's under $50US to send via wire, but there is still a cost there.

The only other option I was told of was bearer traveller's checks, but unless there is some insurance against losing the, there is that risk of losing them via post.

So, be sure you consider these things before sending money internationally. A check for $50 would cost me more to cash it than it is worth...

Michael

ouch, that's expensive.

[luv1another]

ok guys from Australia it costs $15 for a bank cheque, they make it out in USA dollars and apparently there isn't any cost when the person on the other end cashes it.
so my contribution is now in the mail :smile:

[luv1another]

umm Bump... come on guys if I can send money all the way from the land down under some of you closer could send something even if its just $5 every little bit will help.

[Sher]

Being on assistance, I don't have money for a taxi or the bus to get me around daily like that. I have been trying hard to get a job and become self sufficient but they do make it extremely difficult. :frown:
Linda, Contact your rep at the DCF office! Here, at least, they have bus passes (and gas cards) available for free every two weeeks for people who need them and are in your exact situation (assistance, trying to comply, no transportation, etc.). Should help in the interim.

Also, did you call the daycare? Perhaps someone lives near you that you can trust to pick up and drop your son off, and you can exchange that favor when you do get a car by taking their kids later.

I'd love to help, but you know my situation. My prayers are with you though.

[Xmansmommy]

{{{Sherry}}} They do offer a bus pass for me to get to and from the program but not for my son to get to daycare. :frown: My daycare is not a daycare building but a family member related to my son who also has no transportation. But nonetheless I am extremely thankful to her otherwise I wouldn't have daycare either. Not sure if the pass works for me to get out and sell my skills though. :lol: Since yesterday was my last day, they've made an announcement at the program on my behalf asking if anyone can offer any help to contact me. So far, no response. If I don't hear from anyone, I have till next Friday to report back to the site and that will keep them from closing my case. So I've determined to get there next Friday in hopes of hearing from someone in the meantime. I'm still trusting in Him that whatever happens He will provide. I rest in Him.

[Rubia Warren]

umm Bump... come on guys if I can send money all the way from the land down under some of you closer could send something even if its just $5 every little bit will help.
WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You go, luv!
Come on, everybody! Let's all give something and make it surpass the goal!!!!

[themuzicman]

We have a long way to go, folks. Don't feel like a little won't help. We have over 3,000 members signed up. If they all sent $1, we'd exceed our goal!

[dizzle]

I PMd Michael with my amount.

[themuzicman]

We are still in need more more contributors.

Michael

[geebob]

not everyone reads this forum. if you want to get the word out, my suggestion is mass email or make a mention of it on the front page.

[bar Jonah]

What is the running total, at this point, if I may ask?

[themuzicman]

I'm trying to determine that as I type. DD has yet to give me a total amount donated via paypal. I'm pretty sure we're short of halfway, tho.

Michael

[markporter]

woohoo!! I now have a credit card :smile: so as soon as it's processed my first cheque I should be in a position to donate something

[luv1another]

congratulations mark... just be careful with it :smile: credit cards can get you in hot water fast :wink: but you seem smart enough to manage one :smile: I don't have one because I know I would be buying too much for my kids and giving things to people etc and would end up owing millions :lol:

[themuzicman]

das :bump:

[Xavier]

:bump: :bump: :bump:

[themuzicman]

We almost have $500 in hand, with another $300 pledged (as of 1/25), so we're doing pretty well, but we need more people to step up.

Any amount will help us. The best way to give is to through paypal to Theologyweb, and PM yxboom the amount and that it's for Linda's Car.

If that is not available to you, PM me, and we'll make other arrangements.

Michael

[bar Jonah]

We almost have $500 in hand, with another $300 pledged (as of 1/25), so we're doing pretty well, but we need more people to step up.

Any amount will help us. The best way to give is to through paypal to Theologyweb, and PM yxboom the amount and that it's for Linda's Car.

If that is not available to you, PM me, and we'll make other arrangements.

Michael
I believe this was already mentioned before, but just as a reminder to all -- time is a factor, here.

Thank you SO much to all who have given so incredibly generously! I'm in awe of the compassion being demonstrated...

[Sher]

{{{Sherry}}} They do offer a bus pass for me to get to and from the program but not for my son to get to daycare. :frown: My daycare is not a daycare building but a family member related to my son who also has no transportation. But nonetheless I am extremely thankful to her otherwise I wouldn't have daycare either. Not sure if the pass works for me to get out and sell my skills though. :lol: Since yesterday was my last day, they've made an announcement at the program on my behalf asking if anyone can offer any help to contact me. So far, no response. If I don't hear from anyone, I have till next Friday to report back to the site and that will keep them from closing my case. So I've determined to get there next Friday in hopes of hearing from someone in the meantime. I'm still trusting in Him that whatever happens He will provide. I rest in Him.
Hey Linda, Maybe I'm being blonde, but what's the difference? If you get the pass, you get the pass. Walk to work, and bus your kid to daycare. At his age, he should be free, or at the very least, you might be using the punches twice as fast, but you would have a few more days than you thought to go to work ... anything to buy you time. The other thing is to check into monthly passes? There is a way that a business here can help you get a work related pass, it's $15 here, and it's good for unlimited rides for a month. That way you can ride to the daycare AND to work.

Another option, temp of course, is can your family member bunk at your house for awhile? That way your kid could be watched at home, and you can still go. I realize these are only stop gap measures, but anything to buy you time so you aren't kicked out ... especially after working so hard.

Prayers are with you, Hon.

[bar Jonah]

That is an awesome idea, Sher. Even if a car can't be purchased, this can definitely make it possible for Linda to circumnavigate her current obstacles and get on the road to recovery. :rithumb:

Thanks, Sher! Rep points and pearls! :riwink:

[Sher]

That is an awesome idea, Sher. Even if a car can't be purchased, this can definitely make it possible for Linda to circumnavigate her current obstacles and get on the road to recovery. :rithumb:

Thanks, Sher! Rep points and pearls! :riwink:
:flowers: That wasn't my intent, of course, but thanks

I know the position that Linda's in ... and it's difficult to be without transportation ... especially trying to get groceries on the bus :brood:

Hopefully others can think of other suggestions to help, even if it is in the interim until a car is purchased ... gotta think positive, ya know :smile:

[themuzicman]

I suggested her bike, but she just laughed... :doh:

[Rubia Warren]

Well, Linda is going to do whatever she needs to do- even if that means walking out in a foot of snow to get where she needs to go. But we all need to keep giving and see if we can collectively get some decent transportation for her. It's tax time, and I am going to see after I get all my bills paid up if I can do a little more to put towards the goal.
I have been in similar shoes, and I have also been alone and homeless with 2 babies living in my car while pregnant with a third.... and while the struggles of doing what I HAD to do to get things done or get by made me a stronger woman, I still had a few people along the way come along and just hand me over something wonderful to make my life a little easier and take part of the load off, and that is the whole point of this thread. It SUCKS to be by yourself workin it all out- yeah, she has God, but God many times keeps us through other people..... and it sucks to be without a vehicle, it sucks to be in the system, it sucks when everything is stacked against you, and it sucks when you have to keep it all together for the kids.
Walking and a bus pass are a temporary fix and a very good idea, but the whole point of this thread and asking to donate for Linda is give her a little leg up- she is carrying a huge load, and I pray that we can all come together and take a little of the burden off of her. Even when she does get a car, it will still be a hard road, but we can make her load a little lighter, and I know from experience what it feels like when caring generous people step in and help you out.
Come on people, keep it coming in- let's try and go past the original goal.

[Xmansmommy]

The bus pass is only good for me. And I don't have the funds to pay for him and myself to take the bus to the sitter and back to the program and then to three places to place applications daily, then back to pick him up and to bring us home again. It happens to be the dead of winter here and walking several miles with a 4 year old is not an option. I'm doing all that I know how. I've been jumping through their hoops and everything I do is still not enough. :bawl:

[Xmansmommy]

I do greatly appreciate the generousity of all of you who have contributed. Truly God is good to me. PTL! :bow:

[yxboom]

Sher, have you ever walked to a bus stop in 7" of snow and waited for the bus in -10* weather while the wind chill causes your 4 year old child to get pneumonia to wait for the unpredicatable bus that MAY not even be running cause of roads being closed?

In Indiana 2 buses slid off the road just this morning and countless cars in 5" of snow here.

While it may work in other cases the suggestion would make matters worst and not offering anything beneficial in the interim.

[Rubia Warren]

Thank you very much, yxboom. Pearls for that post! Amen!

[$cirisme]

We almost have $500 in hand, with another $300 pledged (as of 1/25), so we're doing pretty well, but we need more people to step up.

Any amount will help us. The best way to give is to through paypal to Theologyweb, and PM yxboom the amount and that it's for Linda's Car.

If that is not available to you, PM me, and we'll make other arrangements.

Michael
Awesome! :thumb:

[yxboom]

While I am sure XMM appreciates the suggestions. Try to provide suggestions that will be beneficial rather than make matters worst causing folks who are completely unaware of the real situation to get misplaced ideas that we are exagerrating a problem than so easily be resolved.

[Rahab]

The buss pass is only good for me. And I don't have the funds to pay for him and myself to take the buss to the sitter and back to the program and then to three places to place applications daily, then back to pick him up and to bring us home again. It happens to be the dead of winter here and walking several miles with a 4 year old is not an option. I'm doing all that I know how. I've been jumping through their hoops and everything I do is still not enough. :bawl:

(((Linda)))).... I do not know if you live in a large city or not but I have a suggestion for you as to generating an income while you await to find steady employment. Look up in the phone book under "Home Health Care" and look for registries. They will hire sitters/companions for home bound folks who cannot be left alone.You can do night shifts if you can find a friend or family who would stay with your younger one. You need not to have any specific certification except to show some references for reliability and integrity. They will train you to be CPR certified. You can make your own schedule and choose the location. The advantage is that you can be going to the same home on your shifts and decide which hours of the day or night to work. Here in Fla. depending on which registry you work for, it pays up to $8.75 per hour for Medicare covered patients. Private clients can afford more. Call them just to check.
Also considering your kind and gentle heart, you would be a blessing to that person....... and he or she would bless you back.

[Xmansmommy]

Rahab, recently while I had my girlfriend's car I went for a pre-interview with a company that is similar to what you mentioned. It is much like work I've done before. This company provides companionship, errand running, cooking and light cleaning for the elderly. I do know they have been checking my references so I have my fingers crossed that I might be able to get transportation so that when (notice I didn't say if :wink:) they call I can accept the job. It will be paying $9 an hour which is alot more than I'm used to working for. Whoohoooooo!

[Rubia Warren]

Some raffles and silent auction(s) are being organized to raise more money- you are GONNA get a car, and that is that! I am not listening to another "idea".
If anybody has suggestions as to how it can be done or if anybody wants to donate an item even (we got lots already though), pm me or muzicman.

[bar Jonah]

Well, Linda is going to do whatever she needs to do- even if that means walking out in a foot of snow to get where she needs to go. But we all need to keep giving and see if we can collectively get some decent transportation for her. It's tax time, and I am going to see after I get all my bills paid up if I can do a little more to put towards the goal.
I have been in similar shoes, and I have also been alone and homeless with 2 babies living in my car while pregnant with a third.... and while the struggles of doing what I HAD to do to get things done or get by made me a stronger woman, I still had a few people along the way come along and just hand me over something wonderful to make my life a little easier and take part of the load off, and that is the whole point of this thread. It SUCKS to be by yourself workin it all out- yeah, she has God, but God many times keeps us through other people..... and it sucks to be without a vehicle, it sucks to be in the system, it sucks when everything is stacked against you, and it sucks when you have to keep it all together for the kids.
Walking and a bus pass are a temporary fix and a very good idea, but the whole point of this thread and asking to donate for Linda is give her a little leg up- she is carrying a huge load, and I pray that we can all come together and take a little of the burden off of her. Even when she does get a car, it will still be a hard road, but we can make her load a little lighter, and I know from experience what it feels like when caring generous people step in and help you out.
Come on people, keep it coming in- let's try and go past the original goal.

Some raffles and silent auction(s) are being organized to raise more money- you are GONNA get a car, and that is that! I am not listening to another "idea."
If anybody has suggestions as to how it can be done or if anybody wants to donate an item even (we got lots already though), pm me or muzicman.
Thank you so much to Rrrrrubia and Boom!

Sher, I truly do appreciate the intention of your post, but I have to admit I had only a knee-jerk reaction to it. Your love and good intention shine through your words. But I have to agree with Rubes and Boom. I still thank you for seeking solutions and for your outpouring of love! :smile:

Rahab, great idea!

Linda, AWESOME, things are really happening! Don't forget... you have people on at least five continents praying for you. Believe it. :rired: You are more loved than you can possibly know, and Rooby Doo is right! You are gonna get this car, dag nabbit! It's gonna happen. So start thinkin' about what kinda car you wanna get. :riwink:

(And on another note, you still need to let me know what songs the girls liked on those CDs they got for Christmas.) :lol:

[Rahab]

Rahab, recently while I had my girlfriend's car I went for a pre-interview with a company that is similar to what you mentioned. It is much like work I've done before. This company provides companionship, errand running, cooking and light cleaning for the elderly. I do know they have been checking my references so I have my fingers crossed that I might be able to get transportation so that when (notice I didn't say if :wink:) they call I can accept the job. It will be paying $9 an hour which is alot more than I'm used to working for. Whoohoooooo!

Wonderful Linda! I am sending you a PM with some information so that you may add me as a character reference. It may be helpful coming from a Health Care Worker. I can see you doing that job with flying colors! God is so good!

[Sher]

The bus pass is only good for me. And I don't have the funds to pay for him and myself to take the bus to the sitter and back to the program and then to three places to place applications daily, then back to pick him up and to bring us home again. It happens to be the dead of winter here and walking several miles with a 4 year old is not an option. I'm doing all that I know how. I've been jumping through their hoops and everything I do is still not enough. :bawl:That just stinks. I hate bureaucracy. They should be doing what they can to promote you through the program, not inhibit you when you are already down. I know how frustrating it is ... keep your chin up

While I am sure XMM appreciates the suggestions. Try to provide suggestions that will be beneficial rather than make matters worst causing folks who are completely unaware of the real situation to get misplaced ideas that we are exagerrating a problem than so easily be resolved.I wasn't negating the need for a car nor making matters worse ... but as I said, suggesting possible stop gap measures to assist until one was forthcoming. I am also without a car, and was trying to provide what has been helping me in my circumstances to get by until I could get one. Suggestions are just that. Remove your wedgie and carry on ... butting out now

[Socrates]

Sher, have you ever walked to a bus stop in 7" of snow and waited for the bus in -10* weather while the wind chill causes your 4 year old child to get pneumonia to wait for the unpredicatable bus that MAY not even be running cause of roads being closed?

In Indiana 2 buses slid off the road just this morning and countless cars in 5" of snow here.

While it may work in other cases the suggestion would make matters worst and not offering anything beneficial in the interim.

Sher has said she is likewise without a car. So why come down on her? :squish: At least RI recognized that she was offering suggestions to help in the meantime.

[Rubia Warren]

I wasn't negating the need for a car ... but as I said, suggesting possible stop gap measures to assist until one was forthcoming. I am also without a car, and was trying to provide what has been helping me in my circumstances to get by until I could get one. Suggestions are just that. Remove your wedgies and carry on ... butting out now
You know, Sher, nobody said you were negating the need..... but this is a thread asking for people to help Linda get a car. If she could get by any other way, we would have figured it out by now. All suggestions are appreciated, but you are undermining the intent of the thread which is to help Linda get a car. If you come up with any more ideas, please send Linda a pm.
And please do not ask me to remove a wedgie and move on- that is very uncalled for, Sher.

[Socrates]

You know, Sher, nobody said you were negating the need..... but this is a thread asking for people to help Linda get a car. If she could get by any other way, we would have figured it out by now. All suggestions are appreciated, but you are undermining the intent of the thread which is to help Linda get a car. If you come up with any more ideas, please send Linda a pm.

Undermining? Come off it. But no one disputes that the car won't appear instantaneously, so it makes perfect sense to give interim advice.

And please do not ask me to remove a wedgie and move on- that is very uncalled for, Sher.

Seemed very called for under the circumstances when her helpful suggestions were met with hostility, including this.

[Xmansmommy]

Look, please everyone, let's not turn this into an argument. I would much rather rescind the entire thread and not accept the help, than to see that happen here too. Thanks for your consideration on this. :bwoot:

[themuzicman]

Undermining? Come off it. But no one disputes that the car won't appear instantaneously, so it makes perfect sense to give interim advice.

Seemed very called for under the circumstances when her helpful suggestions were met with hostility, including this.

I don't think the suggestions were bad, but the mode of communication is. Whenever trying to do something like this, momentum is crucial. Such a suggestion in PM would have been fine, but to air cheap alternatives that can appear to solve the problem kills momentum towards the ultimate goal.

I understand that you meant well, and I dont' doubt your heart or motives.

I guess it was a bit like an :offtopic: thread... it can take the focus away from its intended target.

Michael

[bar Jonah]

You know, Sher, nobody said you were negating the need..... but this is a thread asking for people to help Linda get a car. If she could get by any other way, we would have figured it out by now. All suggestions are appreciated, but you are undermining the intent of the thread which is to help Linda get a car. If you come up with any more ideas, please send Linda a pm.
And please do not ask me to remove a wedgie and move on- that is very uncalled for, Sher.
Michigan in the winter is just not the same as Florida. It's true. Linda explained it, herself... dealing with children out in the freezing cold and deep snow, in sub-freezing temperatures while hoping for a bus that may never come -- this is a last resort, but should not be the plan of action.

But Sher was loving and well-intentioned with her suggestion. Let's just let it be.

[Rubia Warren]

RI, we can discuss this in pm. Let's get the thread back on topic now and focus on what is really of importance here, shall we?

[bar Jonah]

Amen. Sorry, several of the preceding posts hadn't been layed down yet when I was typing mine. :doh:

Alright! Howabout more information on this auction, and the donation of items?

[luv1another]

ok everyone stop take a break and chill.

we are trying to help Xmm out here not bicker over someones suggestion, which I might add comes from the heart. Sure it may have apeared to some that it solved the problem but it also gave others the chance to explain why those ideas would not work.
which is good really because it shows people that this is serious and she does need help.
so guys drop it and move on.
spend some energy advertising the need
or go and debate with someone.
now lets get back on track we need $2200 around that figure
who can help out?
if you can in anyway at all even just $5 then please contact themuzicman or send via the tweb paypal putting donation towards xmansmommys car or something like that :smile:
and thankyou all who have already donated you are what is making this possible :thumb:

[Rubia Warren]

I am just waiting for the details of the forum to be hammered out by boom, DDW and AJ and we can start.

[luv1another]

wow an auction sounds cool :smile:
uh I wish I was closer as Im sure I would be able to find heaps of things to donate :teeth: I have a couple garbage bags of stuff I am taking to the red cross. clothes/book/toys etc.

anyway it sounds great :thumb:

[themuzicman]

Just keeping this up front, so we all remember its importance.

Michael

[markporter]

There, I've made my donation.

[luv1another]

awesome mark :hug:

[1Way]

Has anyone suggested assistance in finding a lower priced (suitable) economy vehicle instead of just seeking financial aid?

My neighbor bought his vehicle for 300 bucks, it's a smaller 2/4wheel drive SUV. I suggest networking with people/friends/churches etc. for folks who may be able to find a lower priced used vehicle, and not just networking for money. I know of some people I could check with, and one in particular who buys junkers and older cars and fixes them up to resell to low income collage students and such, etc.

Xmansmommy, why haven't you called? I found out about this from someone I don't even know over at TOL, (TheologyOnLine dot com) where they thankfully tend to promote not being nicer than God.

(kudos!)
TWEB forum is “very” slick, I very much like the customizations and personalized friendly feel. Hats off to Boom and crew!

(thumbs down)
But, euoooooeeeww, at quick glance, and without seeking it out, this forum’s posters have a glaring problem with promoting being too nice, ideas like anger is bad, name calling is bad, ad hominem's are bad, you folks who believe those ungodly nicer than God teachings have a very shallow understanding of God and scripture concerning harsh appropriate opposition against evil. The righteous calling someone a fool or a swine from a non-hypocritical agape, is godly and redemptive in the deepest sense.

You should not try to be nor support being nicer than God.


Xmansmommy, God is angry with the wicked every day, but evil does not control Him, God teaches us to

“be angry and do not sin”,
and to abhor (the harsher more intense hatred) that which is evil,
and that if you don’t have abhorrence when you should, your so called love is not from agape, it’s hypocrisy, which is sinful.

Morality is a two way street, but God’s way is the only right way, seek and obey Him not man’s thinking, consider:

Am 5:15 Hate evil, love good; Establish justice in the gate. It may be that the LORD God of hosts Will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.

Sure it’s easy to error when our emotions are employed, but a spirit led mind of Christ servant of God is more than able to hate and call names and attack people for evil and sin, God knows better than we do our human proneness to error whenever He taught us to not try to be “nicer” than God. So trust in God’s ways, not man’s. Judge with righteous judgment. Speak “the truth” in love, non-hypocritical agape love.

Xmansmommy please contact me, call or email (already).

[themuzicman]

Certainly a resource that could find a reliable vehicle would be helpful, but we still need the money to purchase the initial vehicle, and to my knowledge, Linda's local church is not able to help.

We also have the problem of being geographically disparate, in that getting a vehicle to someone who could work on it would almost certainly be problematic.


As for being nicer than God, that's :offtopic:, and should be taken to the locker room. :rant:

[1Way]

The music man – I said nothing about not continuing to seek financial aid, I just suggested actively networking to find a cheaper auto. Like I said, my neighbor bought his for about 300 bucks! You might have more than enough already but are blind to the fact by not expanding your search for a cheaper auto.

I once bought the best car I ever owned for 900 bucks, I realize that good deals don’t come very readily, but neither does cold hard cash. The point is that you should be putting as much effort into finding a cheaper auto than you are raising more and more cash. So please ease up on the retort. We are all trying to help our friend.

As to geographic problems, you are making things up as you go. I am suggesting seeking and buying a used auto that is already to go. Problems need not apply, like you infer.

As to not being nicer than God, I was just trying to be devotional like everyone else is with their signatures and all. Sometimes godly advice does not always conform to human conventions of political correctness. Please accept my apology for violating this forum’s sense of topical needs.

See my signature for a small taste of what God says about being too nice. Blessings!

Xmansmommy, why haven’t you called? Call or email already. (Edited my entire post into the void they did, what a deal.)

Please post your devotions in the proper forum. Thanks.

[yxboom]

For real though if you have a car in mind or a means to get XMM a car at a more discounted price please let us know.

[Rubia Warren]

My husband is really good at finding cheap cars, and he works on them, if you guys need any help later on. But the one MM mentioned earlier in the beginning of the thread sounded like a good deal, too.

[emulator]

I just want to pray that you guys will be succesful in your endeavor to bare with XMM in this burden, thanking Jesus for relief. My family has negative ten dollars right now or I would be glad to help. I do want to shed a ray of hope though....we have been pennyless (literally) for about a month now, and the car isn't running (no insurance anyway). We (my wife who is going to have our second any day, my 15 mo old and I) have not gone without even one meal (except intentionally), and we always have a ride to church. We go to church 3 times a week and that doesn't feel like too much. Believe me when I say that God does provide and there is nothing to worry about. I'm not trying to get a pity party so don't waste your time with sympathy, I am not sorry to be in this position and much brokeness, obedience and mercy has resulted from our condition. I even started changing diapers, which I didn't do during the entire time that I worked at my last job. Things are good and money is no object. Things are better now that I can see what really matters. And salary will never change that. Things are going to be okay for Linda and nothing can seperate her from that. I do pray that God will bless her with strength to believe in His provision, so that she won't have to worry.
God bless all of you who are able to give and lack no ministry in doing so.

[Xmansmommy]

Emulator, thank you so much for sharing. I will also be praying for you and your family. I pray He bless you abundantly with enough food and finances so that you may provide for your family. May He also bless your new baby and your wife with great health. May your newborn bring you much joy and more reason to celebrate the life God has given us in Christ. She or he is already blessed abundantly to be brought into a home where her/his parents love God. PTL! :highfive:

I do want to share some things on my heart tonight. Many trials in my life have caused me to be a very personal and private woman. After many years of living that way it's extremely difficult for me to open up and share my personal struggles, even with my closest friends. Not out of a desire to be closed but out of habit mostly. But yes, sometimes out of fear, shame, guilt, pride and probably a dozen other emotions. I despise the feeling of being pitied. For me to share my struggles with Muz and others has been difficult to say the least.

Emulator, your words strike a chord in my heart and touch me in the Spirit. I do know that through all these things I have great lessons to learn. It is a joy to learn the love of God who carries me through all things. I know some about the love of God, but He is blessing me so much more day by day. My tribulations are making patience and helping me to have more hope and trust in Him. Helping me to submit to Him. I truly do believe that even in the midst of my struggles and worries He is working in a mighty way in my life to provide for me. In some ways visible such as you all coming together to help me and my family. In some ways not so visible, touching the hearts of people to pray for us, helping me to understand and experience Him more, which in turn teaches me to trust Him. Something I've been asking for since day one of my walk in Christ (they say be careful what you ask for :wink:) and something He has been giving me, Praise the Lord!

So yes, I do have worries but I am faithful to believing His word and that He will make provision. I've seen God move in my life in ways too wonderful for me to comprehend. He will provide. He is also answering my prayers in breaking my old man, tearing down those walls of solitude and replacing them with humility. And even though it hurts and it's hard to go through and I know it doesn't happen immediatly. It does happen as I allow Him to do that good work He has begun in me. Believe it or not, I am thankful for it. I know I have a long way to go but I am so thankful I'll never go it alone. PTL! Whatever the outcome, I do believe He knows what's best for me and for my family. I pray His will be done. And may He be glorified in me, to the praise of His glory! Amen!

[1Way]

Y - I'll see what I can do but I am now just getting to bed so it wont be until way later on, tough day ahead. Thanks for letting my posts come back, sorry about the off topic remarks, I saw them plastered in most signatures so I felt "somewhat" welcome to respond back, at least I know better now, and my signature is slightly enhanced towards those thoughts now.

I might not come back,
Blessings His way

[geebob]

don't anyone give any car dealers or private sellers any affirmatives. We should pool our knowledge on what we can find with regard to price, quality, and geographical location, (the last of which I assume would put roobz's finds in the best light...other than what xman's might find herself)

[themuzicman]

Well, in one sense, we've failed. I had hoped to gather enough money to get Linda a car before her unexcused days ran out. Unfortunately, that day was today (Friday, Jan 31st.)

I realize that there was a sense of urgency about getting a car to help her keep her assitance, and if some of you wish to change your minds because we weren't able to accomplish our purpose in this time. However, as we all know, single moms need cars, and Linda's situation regarding a vehicle hasn't changed.

So, I believe we should press on, I believe we are more than half way to our goal, and I believe we can finish what we've started.

Michael

[Xavier]

Let's go for it....

COME ON TWEB... Show your support of Linda...

:smile:

[1Way]

Ok, I just got off the phone and he says he has one mini van that might work, but it's a high mileage auto, like 170,000, but the price is low, really low, below 500 low, perhaps 400 or so.

87 Plymouth Voyager mini van

He drove it into his place so it may be ready to go but hasn't been driven in a while so he has to check the battery and such, and also it's snowed in so that will slow it up a bit too.

geebob - Good point about the location, but if this van works out, getting me back home (3.25 hour drive on way) is a much easier problem to solve.

He said he could look at it tomorrow in the light and we'll know more then especially if she/you guys are interested.

I realize that with used vehicles your always taking a risk, and in this case, the up side is that the upfront cash outlay is about as low as one can get. I'd basically say that if the motor seems to run well, and the overall mechanical structure and such seems sound, then who knows, it may be a good buy. I trust the seller, I lived with their family for years and he is a wizz at working on cars and stuff, but at this low of a price and w/high mileage, there are no guarantees for long term reliability.

He want's to know if your interested, if you are he will do what he can to get it ready in quick order, and I would lend you guys my own personal opinion upon checking it out too. It's a gamble I know, but, such is life.

The other person I asked about didn't have any extra cars like that right now. I understand if you all are hesitant or wishing more for Linda, I understand that, when it comes to transportation, Linda needs something that will last with the least amount of maintenance hassles as possible. Without further information, I'd say that even if it lasts until next winter, the immediate need would be fulfilled and give her more time to look for a better vehicle. If you want to know more about it, then I could check it out sometime probably tomorrow after noon or so.

He just sold another auto resently too, ,,, we might have had a better choice selection then, but this is all he's got.

At least it's something. :)

[yxboom]

This is only a suggestion but a possibility with that in mind. Using the lower cost for the car, the extra funds that have been raised can be used to fixing any odds and ends to make it more reliable. That may be a way to go in that.

It is muzicman and XMM who is in charge of the fund raiser so it rests on their/her decision. Thanks for the consideration 1Way :thumb:

[1Way]

My pleasure, I only wish I had known about this earlier... I don't even know how long ago her car trouble happened. I don't know her circumstances about loosing her welfare and such either. I know that these sorts of things can be very difficult to go through, shucks, I've lived in a van and then upgraded to a school bus for at least 5 years off and on from my collage days. (rough times!)

I just hope that somehow things will turn out for the better. Perhaps if Linda's situation is explained a bit more, people might be better able to pool together even more ideas for support and advice. Maybe she'll feel more welcome to do so after knowing our understanding and caring.

Just another friendly suggestion. :)

Thank you TWEB for all you have done for Linda, I'm sure it means a lot to her and her children. Earlier there was another lady who was without a car I think, and she was offering helpful suggestions that some were rejecting and looking down upon a bit. I sincerely hope you all are caring for others (including her) as much as she was towards Linda, offering assistance from poverty is a "humbling" and good example.
:pray:

[1Way]

I guess I'll check back in tomorrow sometime around noon or thereabouts. We need to know how urgent this issue is, me checking in on the van.

Has Linda lost her home presently? Should we be helping/praying about that now, or?

[1Way]

It's quarter after 12 my time, and still no response. I was hoping to have more cooperative resposes, I don't want to trouble my friend about the van if you folks aren't interested. Perhaps you need more time? Perhaps you do not need or desire my assistance? Perhaps it's just a time zone discrepancy? I'm in the same time zone as Linda. I do not frequent this site so a little more friendly outreach towards me would be appreciated (other than what as already been shown, hi Y).

So?

[Xmansmommy]

Hey 1Way,
Thanks for your thoughts and advice. I haven't been back to this thread till just now. I have some other pressing issues right now as well, with my mother being in the hospital. I do want to say that I appreciate all the help and support my fellow TWebbers have given, whether it be in prayer or in an offering.

As Muz pointed out in his last post, I have now passed the deadline of being able to stay in the program. And while the efforts here have been great and much appreciated, I do think that it was a bit too difficult a task to actually accomplish by the deadline. In that respect I'm sorry. No, I'm not homeless. I can fully understand and appreciate if everyone decides to be refunded their offerings.

We need time to allow those who gave to decide if they wish to have their money refunded or not. If we still have enough funds to purchase a vehicle, then we will look further into it. May God bless each of you.

Blessings,
Linda

[1Way]

I thought the effort was to get you transportation, not just because of the deadline, but because of your on going need. If you are expressing some sort of change which this overdue deadline "somehow" represents, then please go ahead and explain, otherwise how can we adjust our help and understanding of your new situation? They offered you help because of what you shared about your need. Now it's changed but we don't understand what's different.

Like I said, I can understand your humility and all, but you need to look upon Jesus and consider those around you who are wanting to help you, "exercise" faith in Christ.

And please don't feel ashamed because folks are willing to help you. I helped you in the past, and I thought you sincerely appreciated it, then and always. But now you make me wonder why you are not trusting others who are wanting to help you here and now. If you do appreciate the assistance freely given, then please treat others with the same sort of "trust and spirit of thanksgiving" that we have for you. No one thinks poorly of you because you are poor and in desperate need. Let weaknesses become strength in Jesus.

Unless I hear from you soon (ASAP), I'll ave to tell the seller to not bother with the van. Thanks for the response. And God's righteous best to you and yours.

[themuzicman]

The transportation is an ongoing need. Her present vehicle isn't fixable. We were trying to do it very quickly to keep her in the state program that she was in, but we didn't make it that far.

However, she still needs a car to get to job interviews and to take her kids to where they need to go.

So, the need still exists, we just weren't able to keep her in the state program that was providing her with badly needed funds.

Michael

[Xmansmommy]

1Way, let me first express that I most certainly have a need for transportation. That has never been questioned. When the request was first made known on the first page of this thread and all throughout, many of the details were shared. I suggest you go through and read the thread as I believe it will answer many of your questions and doubts. I haven't gotten much more personal as it was a struggle in itself to post what I have shared here. And I am begining to regret doing so for several reasons. :frown: One of which is, being rebuked for not allowing my brothers and sisters to help me. :shifty: As for the van, I would suggest you tell your friend that at this point funds are an issue. Again, I suggest reading my last post. I do and have always appreciated your help 1Way. Thank you my brother.

:xmm:

[1Way]

I have a bad (scratch that, terrible!!!) internet connection, I can barely get messages, it takes minuets just to load one page, sometimes more. Now I must read your entire thread to understand what has changed in your new situation? I was hoping for a bit more cooperation than that.

Who has rebuked you for not allowing my brothers and sisters to help you? And besides that, if you "are" being open and trusting with those who are helping you, then just rebuke the false rebuker, no problem. Why would someone's false charge bother anyone? I'm glad you appreciate my assistence, my efforts have been gratefully offered dispite the various struggles I am going thru to help you and TWEB in your time of need.
In what way is the funds a problem(?), I don't understand what you are saying? I was told that you have more than enough funds to get the van, I'm not disagreeing, or complaining, or rebuking, I simply do not understand what you are saying.

LOL This is sort of like playing 20 questions, only not so much.

[1Way]

I was planning on calling him back ASAP to let him know your response, he is a caring man and may be trying to get it ready, although I asked him to not go out of his way until I call him back.


The need is the same, -- the situation has changed,
people may want to change their minds since the situations has changed, -- they have been fully informed the entire process,
the money is more than enough, -- the money is a "problem".


Ok. ,,, I'll gladly do as you ask, it's just a tad bit confusing. Please draw a picture. :)

[Alien]

We need time to allow those who gave to decide if they wish to have their money refunded or not. If we still have enough funds to purchase a vehicle, then we will look further into it.

I want to go on record that I want the money I contributed to be given to Linda, whether in the form of a car or just cash. That was my intention from the start, as I'm sure that some extra $$$$ will be helpful even it it doesn't stretch to car. I urge everyone to consider making the same decision.

God bless you Linda, and I'm praying for you and your mother.

Tony

[NSMinistries]

I want to go on record that I want the money I contributed to be given to Linda, whether in the form of a car or just cash. That was my intention from the start, as I'm sure that some extra $$$$ will be helpful even it it doesn't stretch to car. I urge everyone to consider making the same decision.

God bless you Linda, and I'm praying for you and your mother.

Tony
Same here....

[Xavier]

Same here....
Ditto... :smile:

[India]

Just a thought for those who may not know Xmansmommy as well and are leery of giving money (or Paypal/Internet transactions in general) - one idea is to send her a Kroger's gift card which will at least help with her finances in general. (Kroger's is an XMM-approved place to receive a gift card from.)

[Xmansmommy]

I thank God for all of you. :smile:

[bar Jonah]

I thank God for all of you. :smile:
Well then, it's only fair I suppose, since we all thank God for you... :smile:

[luv1another]

when I sent my money to Muzicman from downunder via snail mail I also sent a card saying that it goes to xmm whether or not the car happens or not :smile: Its a gift whatever happens.
(((((((( Xmm ))))))))

[geebob]

are we still at around 500 dollars? have we passed that?

[emulator]

heart seen,
light shines through you,
hard to see,
you shine through life,
to see heart,
through life you shine,
heart scene,
through you light shines.

Don't be discouraged sweetheart, take heart, it's yours, be encouraged.
I see your true colors XMM, don't stress the ress.

[themuzicman]

We're at $865 in hand, with another $200 pledged.

Michael

[luv1another]

Muzicman has my contribution arrived yet? please let me know when it does... I get all stressed out sending money in the mail. I did pray for the envelope to arrive though so I believe it will and so far I am at peace about it getting there:teeth: but please let me know when it arrives.

others please keep the cash coming in.

[themuzicman]

When I get it, you'll know, luv!

Michael

[geebob]

1way

I was planning on calling him back ASAP to let him know your response, he is a caring man and may be trying to get it ready, although I asked him to not go out of his way until I call him back.

keep tabs on it. since we're not pressed for time (though Linda shouldn't have to wait too long), we want to see all of our options. I still have a station wagon for $500 I'm going to enquire about. allegedly it has a crack in the engine block but I'm going to ask and just make sure that it couldn't perhaps be a misdiagnosis. Also, we still want to see what LaRubia can come up with. But all things considered, your minivan sounds like the best option yet. (out of the only two I know about).

[themuzicman]

I would want to know the model and year of the minivan. There are several that were problematic that are now in this price range.

Michael

[Xmansmommy]

Just want eveyone to be aware that I can't drive a stick shift. :noid:

[luv1another]

I hate manual cars XMM :smile: always have to have my automatic even if I did learn in a stick shift :lol: maybe I just hate stalling at traffic lights and as I go around corners :lol: I definately don't miss the manual cars :teeth:

[Xmansmommy]

:lol: I tried a couple of times to learn to drive one...but I never could. :frown:

[India]

I'm with ya, XMM and Luv - my husband gave me my one and only lesson in stick-shift driving (he loves driving stick) and refused to teach me any more because he could smell the clutch burning. :lol: I think my attention needs to be focused on the road rather than on doing what the car could be doing anyway.

[Xmansmommy]

:highfive: India! :lol: Why have so many pedals and gears and stuff? I mean really :ahem:, what were they thinking? :doh:

[Stephen]

I can't believe I never saw this thread before.

I really wish I could have helped financially, but as you most likely know, I don't exactly get a income.:frown:

But my :pray:er don't cost a thing

[Xmansmommy]

{{{Stephen}}} please don't feel bad bro...prayers are a great help to me. I believe they work! I thank you for them. :smile:

[geebob]

I think we should shoot for a deadline. Xman's, is by next weekend soon enough for you? This weekend?

[Xmansmommy]

Whatever you guys decide geebob. I was mainly an observer in this thing. A very appreciative observer however. :smile:

[geebob]

well lets put it this way. How long do you think you can go without your own vehical. Not that I think we should go as long as your guestimet, but it might give us an idea.

[Xmansmommy]

Well for now, my girlfriend is willing to take me to the grocery store. So, as long as it's not an exceptionally long time, I'm covered for now. Thanks geebob. :smile:

[geebob]

I talked to my friend about the station wagon. He's currently not willing to drive it 4 plus hours. He's afraid it would fall apart on the trip and he'd lose his investment. Of course this is the car with the alleged crack in the engine block anyway. But the thing about that is that he said that had been the case since he first got the car about a year ago, and he's not sure about that diagnosis. AT any rate, it is not an option currently.

So right now, we have the minivan that 1way suggested. did anyone find anything else?

[Xmansmommy]

Muz has been looking in my area geebob, and I am going to get a newspaper today and see what is available here. Muz also found a couple of cars in other areas and started a thread to ask if anyone was in those areas to check them out. :nsm:

[Stephen]

Once you guys get the car, you need to paint "Theologyweb Dot Com" on both sides and draw an XMM smilie on the back.

Plus, you need the license place "I M XMM"

[Xmansmommy]

:lmbo: I would enjoy having a TWeb bumper sticker or liscense plate or something. :brow:

[themuzicman]

Auto for Sale
TOYOTA 1993 COROLLA 4 door, white, automatic, air, sunroof, runs great $1,495. Call (616)791-9709.

Auto for Sale
DODGE 1995 AVENGER- 194,000 miles, 2 door, air, cd, cruise. $1,500. (616)895-6452.

Auto for Sale
HONDA 1991 CIVIC LX Automatic, $1,500. Ophoff Motors (616) 452-7761.


These are what I found locally. Anyone else have anything like these? Suggestions?

Michael

[Stephen]

Get the Toyota and give the extra five bucks to me:hehe::hehe:

[bar Jonah]

Once you guys get the car, you need to paint "Theologyweb Dot Com" on both sides and draw an XMM smilie on the back.

Plus, you need the license place "I M XMM"
Yes, but be careful not to make it say:

IM XMM

... because then she'd be flooded with instant messages! :ripurple:

[geebob]

well a two door certainly won't do for a family of six. I think so far the minivan may be the best option. But I am a clueless person about cars so don't take that for much weight.

[Jaltus]

Corrolla (it is what I drive) but find out the milage first.

[markporter]

Anything else happened in the last couple of days? Any progress?

[Xmansmommy]

Well Mark, yes actually. When my mom heard of the generosity of TWebbers she donated $600 to the fund. :woohoo: As for purchasing a vehicle, I know Muz is looking in his area and I got some newspapers and auto books and I'm going to be going through and making calls and hopefully narrowing down some prospects. Not a lot of cars in my local newspaper in that price range but there are some. I think as of now, it's just a matter of finding the best car for the money. :pray:

[luv1another]

wow thats awesome xmm ((((((((( xmm )))))))) :flowers: now lets get praying for a car :smile:

[Xmansmommy]

Amen sister! I was :shocked: but I'm getting excited now about finding a car. Excited and nervous. It's always a job searching for and finding a good car. So I am praying that God would give me discernment as I only have one friend who might be actually able to give me any advice on the dependability of any cars I look at. :pray:

[markporter]

cool!!!!!!!

[$cirisme]

Awesome!

[Xmansmommy]

:highfive:

[Dave G]

XMM,

If you need some help on figuring out what is a good car for the money and what to look for, you might try asking at some of the auto parts stores and see if the employees are able or if they know people that are able to put in two cents. Just like anybody who has a specialized knowledge that doesn't have a direct need to make money off of you (like a repair shop might do), they may be very willing to help, especially if you explain your situation.

I've found Auto Zone to be very helpful with parts advice. Or in a city as large as Detroit you must have technological colleges. They would surely be helpful, maybe even willing to look over a car. You might also try to find retirees that work on cars. Churches might know people, but also car clubs and hobbyists like muscle car collectors. I guess to find them you'd have to pick up the magazines at the front of grocery stores.

Ask at a convenience store if it's :ahem: convenient, because a lot of hands-on people go through there for coffee and what-not. A trucker that delivers gas might know somebody who would check the car.

Just thoughts off the top of my head.:smile:

[Xmansmommy]

Thank you David, that's some great advice! I'll be sure to ask around and see what I can come up with. :thumb:

:offtopic: Love that convenience store comment. :wink: :lol:

[Rubia Warren]

Linda, Mr. Swing told me to tell you that sometimes people will not tell you outright that a car has been in a wreck or that it has had body work done. He wanted me to tell you when looking at used vehicles, it is always handy to bring a magnet with you- like off of your refridgerator.... and if anything looks suspicious or to make sure, you can whip out your magnet. If it does not stick to the area on the car, it has been filled with Bondo (he should know.... he is the Bondo king :wink:). He is keeping his eyes open for any deals that may come along, and told me to tell you that if possible, to try to buy in the Nissan, Honda, and especially Toyota families, as they hold up better mechanically (and also if you ever need something done, he can work on Toyotas blindfolded.... in case you end up living close to us in the future). He has a list of certain american made cars (and certain motors) to stay away from, as they are known to have problems, and/or are cheaply made and fall apart completely. I'll talk to you later and let you know which ones they are.

[Xmansmommy]

Great r00bz, tell MrSwing thanks! I hope to talk with you later then. :deal:

[Bill the Cat]

Hey Linda!! Still prayin for you!! Hope you are well!!

[Xmansmommy]

Thank you Bill. It means alot to me. :hug:

[India]

He has a list of certain american made cars (and certain motors) to stay away from, as they are known to have problems, and/or are cheaply made and fall apart completely.

Yeah, my dad's had a couple of used Fords and says he won't be getting another Ford. FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily. :smile:

[luv1another]

amen india :smile: get a holden :winK:

ok over in aussie we have fords and holdens mainly and most aussie guys are ford or holden guys :teeth: we have had holdens since well my dad had mostly holdens and now since I have grown up I have had only holdens :smile:
do you guys even have holdens?

[markporter]

I've never heard of holdens

[luv1another]

for anyone like mark who hasn't heard of Holden here you go...
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/jsp/homepage/homepage.jsp

:teeth:

[markporter]

oh right, I see, the australian equivalent of vauxhall

[$cirisme]

Never heard of a holden before...

[India]

Just to keep this thread off topic... :teeth: My dad had a used Ford Festiva that didn't have air conditioning and shook whenever it got above 55 MPH, so he nicknamed it Shake 'N' Bake. :lol:

[bar Jonah]

Say, we can also have a contest to name Linda's car once it has been purchased and finalized!

After getting out of the Navy, my first car was a 79 Chevy Caprice Classic. I named it Paradise... because that's the first thing I bought for it. A pair o' dice. :riwink:

Then was my 89 Ford Taurus. I named it Balaam. I figured this time Balaam could be the animal bearing its master to and fro... plus, the tail was covered in Christian and conservative bumper stickers, so I figured this time Balaam could be a prophet of truth, what with all that truth plastered all over its .... uhh.... backside? (ie. Donkey?) :lol:

Now, I got myself a 92 Plymouth Voyager. I never expected to make use of such a large vehicle but it has been a huge blessing in helping a friend move, and now moving myself! I don't know what I would have done without it, and it came just in time! So, because of its size and the fact that it bailed me out of some very difficult jams... I've named it simply The Ark.

:rithumb:

[Rubia Warren]

Are you guys still accepting donations?
I still have all my stuff to raffle off...... but somebody hasn't let me know where I can do that yet......*cough*yxboom*cough*

[themuzicman]

Yes, roobz.

[Xmansmommy]

Got a letter in the mail today ....I didn't get the job. :bawl:

[$cirisme]

Got a letter in the mail today ....I didn't get the job. :bawl:
:bawl: :frown:

[Stephen]

Got a letter in the mail today ....I didn't get the job. :bawl::sad:

[Xmansmommy]

That just really sucks. :frown:

[Stephen]

That just really sucks. :frown:
:pray:

[Xmansmommy]

Thank you Stephen. I guess I was so looking forward to that job that I'm really hurt that I didn't get it. <insert broken heart smiley here>

[Xavier]

Thank you Stephen. I guess I was so looking forward to that job that I'm really hurt that I didn't get it. <insert broken heart smiley here>
:hug: :pray:

[Xmansmommy]

Thanks :x:. :smile:

[India]

You never know, maybe you didn't get the job because God has a better one in store for you or has some particular plan for you. My friend got fired once - really fired, not let go - and she was very upset about it because she'd done a good job and never even got a straight answer about why she'd been fired. But because of that, she had to find another job, and in that next job God really used her as a witness for him.

Come to think of it, that friend was the one who led me to rededicate myself to Christ in college, and had I not been rejected by my first-choice college (which was a big disappointment at the time) we wouldn't have gone to the same college and I'd never have met her.

[Xmansmommy]

Awesome India! I do believe that even though I didn't get this job that I thought would be a great opportunity for me, God will provide a job that will be best for me. Just have to be patient, I know. :thumb:

[bar Jonah]

Indeed, God has the very best plan possible for us. :ripurple:

[markporter]

Any more news XMM?

[Xmansmommy]

Waiting for the donations to be gathered so I can actually look for a vehicle. :thumb: Praying for God's guidance to find one that will be the best purchase. I appreciate all of your help and prayers as well. Thanks all. :smile:

[Stephen]

What's the donation count?

[Xmansmommy]

:shrug:

[emulator]

:shrug:
LOL is that cause of the way God works?
Or the way Tweb works?
:teeth:

[Xmansmommy]

TWeb. :teeth:

[Xmansmommy]

Whoooohooooooooooooo I got my new car! It's a 1989, 4 door Eagle Summit. It has just over 62k miles on it. I would take a pic but my digital camera software doesn't work with Windows XP. :rant: It needs a front end alignment and an oil change but otherwise it is awesome. Hopefully that won't cost so much. It has been taken care of very well by the previous owner who was aging so much that his vision was impaired. So he was no longer able to drive it. I bought it last night and got plates and insurance on it today. I am so excited! :joy: I want to thank all of you who have helped me get this car. I am so grateful. Thanks so much. And may God bless each of you as you have blessed me. :hug:

[Ishmael]

My pick-up is an '89 but it has many more miles on it.

[Xmansmommy]

I was really blessed to find this car for sure. :whew:

[Mujibur]

:woohoo: That is awesome, XMM.

[Xmansmommy]

Amen! God is so good. :woohoo:

[luv1another]

congratulations xmm :woohoo:

[Xmansmommy]

Thank you! :highfive:

[Xavier]

:woohoo:

[India]

Rock!