What am I?

[Grace]

Given
a) I am very new to any discusions on this topic
b) but I have been thinking about it for years

I am trying to determine what 'label' might be applied to my perspective on creation and cosmology (Knowing that I am not the first person to derive certain conclusions - there must be a label.)

I believe that God Existed - and only God existed - at what I shall call a speed (existance) that is at or beyond the speed of light. That creation, when it occured was not so much a big bang, as that God, taking a portion of himself, lowered that portion to sub light speed. As we all have heard E= mC2. reducing energy to sub light speed initiated MASS. He created all things from himself.

I further believe that this was not just a activity, once performed was created. God continues to monitor this work - because we are part of him, part of his essence that one day will be returned - by His action - to light speed.

Any thoughts?

AM i just a space cadet -- with this Light Speed idea (If I am a space cadet - Einstein must be with me)

If it helps to label where I am coming from, my stongest influence came from A jesuit priest (not a scientist??? He was an atropologist anf co finder of the Peking Man) Telhard de Chardin - who suggested that man's evolution was from individualism to a common 'human identity and common conscience' (internet wireless society).


Grace

[CobraA1]

:huh:

No idea . . .

I've always taken the view that God isn't limited to our universe, and in fact created it . . .

I think you would be a new category :teeth:.

[A Beautiful Truth]

Given
a) I am very new to any discusions on this topic
b) but I have been thinking about it for years

I am trying to determine what 'label' might be applied to my perspective on creation and cosmology (Knowing that I am not the first person to derive certain conclusions - there must be a label.)

I believe that God Existed - and only God existed - at what I shall call a speed (existance) that is at or beyond the speed of light. That creation, when it occured was not so much a big bang, as that God, taking a portion of himself, lowered that portion to sub light speed. As we all have heard E= mC2. reducing energy to sub light speed initiated MASS. He created all things from himself.

I further believe that this was not just a activity, once performed was created. God continues to monitor this work - because we are part of him, part of his essence that one day will be returned - by His action - to light speed.

Any thoughts?

AM i just a space cadet -- with this Light Speed idea (If I am a space cadet - Einstein must be with me)

If it helps to label where I am coming from, my stongest influence came from A jesuit priest (not a scientist??? He was an atropologist anf co finder of the Peking Man) Telhard de Chardin - who suggested that man's evolution was from individualism to a common 'human identity and common conscience' (internet wireless society).


Grace

Gee, Grace, I wonder what you must think of the God of the Bible?

[Grace]

I've always taken the view that God isn't limited to our universe, and in fact created it . . .

I think you would be a new category .

and

Gee, Grace, I wonder what you must think of the God of the Bible?

Thanks to both of you for your response.

As to my belief in God, that should be self evedint, in that I describe him as being the driver of the process, and not just an accident in time - or some sort of evolutionary activity.

My belief in God is unquestionable, but have you never asked yourself questions concerning HOW He acted in His creation,? What was the source Material He used - I know you will say dust (and to dust I shall return) but then how did He make the dust? ...

You see, if you allow something outside of God himself to be the source material for creation - then you are saying that there is something 'outside' of God - UNTHINKABLE! He must of taken of Himself, His very nature, in order to create the very building blocks (dust atoms molecules ...) of this world.

The implication, then, if all creation is sourced by God, then the world (in its physical nature) is fundamentally good!

THERE ARE MANY WHO WOULD ARGUE THIS - BUT WHAT IS THEIR FOUNDATION?

So I may be a new category (in all humility I disagre - since I am not the author of 'original' thoughts) but you might want to explore this category at greater depth simply by asking - how did God create the Universe (and by that we mean ALL matter - not just a description of matters close at hand!)


Grace

[Amazing Rando]

My belief in God is unquestionable, but have you never asked yourself questions concerning HOW He acted in His creation,? What was the source Material He used - I know you will say dust (and to dust I shall return) but then how did He make the dust? ...

The classical Christian position has been that he literally created matter from nothing. This violates the principle of physics that says matter cannot be created or destroyed, but when you're the author of the laws of nature, you can break them at your whim! :teeth:

You see, if you allow something outside of God himself to be the source material for creation - then you are saying that there is something 'outside' of God - UNTHINKABLE! He must of taken of Himself, His very nature, in order to create the very building blocks (dust atoms molecules ...) of this world.

Your first part is certainly correct, for if matter existed independant of God, that would refute the notion of him as portrayed in the Bible. But why would God need to break off chunks of himself to create the world? By doing this, you're making God into a physical being and denying his spiritual nature. Most Christians believe that God is seperate from his creation. Just as we all have a "spiritual" body, most Christians believe that God is purely spirit (i.e. non-physical) and that he created the matter of the Earth (purely physical). In other words, the Creator is distinct from his Creation.

The implication, then, if all creation is sourced by God, then the world (in its physical nature) is fundamentally good!

It would be good, were it not tainted by sin.

THERE ARE MANY WHO WOULD ARGUE THIS - BUT WHAT IS THEIR FOUNDATION?

I dunno, you got me! :nsm:

So I may be a new category (in all humility I disagre - since I am not the author of 'original' thoughts) but you might want to explore this category at greater depth simply by asking - how did God create the Universe (and by that we mean ALL matter - not just a description of matters close at hand!)

Grace

That's a question I don't think we can ever know the answer to. How did he create matter out of nothing? :shrug: That's something that defies all rational explanation. Good on you for asking the question though! :bunny: