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  • The Myth of the Climate Change '97%'

    From The Wall Street Journal [color emphasis added by -JR]:
    The Myth of the Climate Change '97%'

    By JOSEPH BAST And ROY SPENCER
    May 26, 2014 7:13 p.m. ET

    [snip ten paragraphs]

    In 2013, John Cook, an Australia-based blogger, and some of his friends reviewed abstracts of peer-reviewed papers published from 1991 to 2011. Mr. Cook reported that 97% of those who stated a position explicitly or implicitly suggest that human activity is responsible for some warming. His findings were published in Environmental Research Letters.

    Mr. Cook's work was quickly debunked. In Science and Education in August 2013, for example, Environmental Science & Policy in 2010most climate scientists disagree with the consensus on key issues such as the reliability of climate data and computer models. They do not believe that climate processes such as cloud formation and precipitation are sufficiently understood to predict future climate change.

    Surveys of meteorologists repeatedly find a majority oppose the alleged consensus. Only 39.5% of 1,854 American Meteorological Society members who responded to a survey in 2012Yet relatively few have either written on or reviewed research having to do with the key question: How much of the temperature increase and other climate changes observed in the 20th century was caused by man-made greenhouse-gas emissions? The IPCC lists only 41 authors and editors of the relevant chapter of the Fifth Assessment Report addressing "anthropogenic and natural radiative forcing."

    Of the various petitions on global warming circulated for signatures by scientists, the one by the Petition Project,

    We could go on, but the larger point is plain. There is no basis for the claim that 97% of scientists believe that man-made climate change is a dangerous problem.

    Mr. Bast is president of the Heartland Institute. Dr. Spencer is a principal research scientist for the University of Alabama in Huntsville and the U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer on NASA's Aqua satellite.

  • #2
    Amen
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    • #3
      This is interesting, thanks for posting.
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #4
        The C13/C12 ratio of the atmosphere is remarkably unphased by political commentary. It's almost as if human causation of climate change is, well, science or something.

        John, I love you, man. But you're making a fool of yourself looking for reasons to support the fringe on this one. It's time to stop.

        As ever, Jesse

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
          The C13/C12 ratio of the atmosphere is remarkably unphased by political commentary. It's almost as if human causation of climate change is, well, science or something.
          On that subject, please answer the question ― highlighted in color ― posed at the very bottom of this post:
          UPDATED: Roy Spencer on how Oceans are Driving CO2herehere


          -Roy
          hereherehere

          So, what does this all show? A comparison of the two slope relationships (5100 mmtC/yr for interannual variability, versus 4,700 mmtC/yr for the trends) shows, at least empirically, that whatever mechanism is causing El Nino and La Nina to modulate CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere is more than strong enough to explain the long-term increase in CO2 concentration at Mauna Loahere

          Could the long-term increase in El Nino conditions observed in recent decades (and whatever change in the carbon budget of the ocean that entails) be more responsible for increasing CO2 concentrations than mankind? At this point, I think that question is a valid one.

          Update:
          More CO2 Peculiarities: The C13/C12 Isotope Ratiohere

          Now, as we burn fossil fuels, the ratio of C13 to C12 is going down. From what I can find digging around on the Internet, some people think this is the signature of anthropogenic emissions. But if you examine the above equation, you will see that the C13 index that is reported can go down not only from decreasing C13 content, but also from an increasing C12 content (the other 98.9% of the CO2).

          If we convert the data in Fig. 1 into C13 content, we find that the C13 content of the atmosphere is increasing (Fig. 2).

          See image herehereherehere

          Significantly, note that the ratio of C13 variability to CO2 variability is EXACTLY THE SAME as that seen in the trends!

          BOTTOM LINE: If the C13/C12 relationship during NATURAL inter-annual variability is the same as that found for the trends, how can people claim that the trend signal is MANMADE??
          Last edited by John Reece; 05-29-2014, 11:39 AM.

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          • #6
            http://bbickmore.wordpress.com/roy-spencer/
            http://www.skepticalscience.com/Paci...scillation.htm

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            • #7
              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
              [snip] The long term warming trend is a result of an energy imbalance caused primarily by an increase of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere. [/snip]
              See here re question of what the trend is when the latest period of no warming exceeds the most recent period of global warming (which ended September 1996).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by John Reece View Post
                See here re question of what the trend is when the latest period of no warming exceeds the most recent period of global warming (which ended September 1996).
                New Scientist Article:-
                http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.U4eLsSjyRQQ

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  The same dire crap they predicted for the year 2000 back in the 1980's. It's always just around the corner. If we don't do something now, we are all doomed! The end is nigh! but strangely enough, the doomsday keeps moving along about 10 to 20 years in the future.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    The same dire crap they predicted for the year 2000 back in the 1980's. It's always just around the corner. If we don't do something now, we are all doomed! The end is nigh! but strangely enough, the doomsday keeps moving along about 10 to 20 years in the future.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      The same dire crap they predicted for the year 2000 back in the 1980's. It's always just around the corner. If we don't do something now, we are all doomed! The end is nigh! but strangely enough, the doomsday keeps moving along about 10 to 20 years in the future.

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                      • #12
                        That isn't the question at all.

                        The question is, will you allow fear-mongering politicians to pick your pocket and line their own with their scare tactics, and bankrupt this planet trying to fix something that isn't broken, by selling idiot solutions like "carbon credits"?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          That isn't the question at all.

                          The question is, will you allow fear-mongering politicians to pick your pocket and line their own with their scare tactics, and bankrupt this planet trying to fix something that isn't broken, by selling idiot solutions like "carbon credits"?
                          I miss the "amen" button.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by John Reece View Post
                            I miss the "amen" button.
                            me too.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              me too.
                              This article has a picture of one of the horrible men that owns your soul.
                              http://www.salon.com/2014/05/28/wsjs...is_not_a_myth/

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