PDA

View Full Version : Ques ; Does God Have A Beginning ???


Ezraarah
March 25th 2004, 06:56 PM
Anyone Answer If They Have And Answer That Is :wink:

KingDavid8
March 25th 2004, 09:17 PM
Anyone Answer If They Have And Answer That Is :wink:

There's no reason why God would have a beginning. God created the universe, and time as we know it began to exist when the universe began to exist (and will cease to exist when the universe ceases to exist). Thus God exists outside of time as we know it, and would not require a beginning.

I say "time as we know it" because obviously if God took the step to create the universe, He must experience time in some sense. But I'd have to say that time, to God, is a fluid thing. God is clearly not SUBJECT to time, limited by it the way we are, and only being subject to time would require His having a beginning.

David

mickiel
March 25th 2004, 09:46 PM
Anyone Answer If They Have And Answer That Is :wink:



is his pressence inside the mind of his creations. The moment we are aware of God, is the beginning of his presence in our conciousness.

Egyptian Lady
March 25th 2004, 10:23 PM
Let me guess, your going to "surprise" us all and pull a silly rabbit answer out of your hat. Betcha cant wait huh?

ajohnson
March 26th 2004, 12:10 AM
Anyone Answer If They Have And Answer That Is :wink:

No - if He did, he wouldn't be God.








Do I win the prize????

Lord, please let this guess be the right answer, Amen

Alan

Ezraarah
March 26th 2004, 06:04 AM
Ans ; Yes , God's Beginning is with each Religious Denomination Or Sect . For instance , Allah is Declared the one and only God . through the declaration of The Islamic Faith . When Muhammad , Who was born in 570 A.D. And died in the year 632 A.D. In Arabia made an Islamic Declaration Of Faith that '' There Is No God But Allah '' . That Declaration was the birth of The Allah Concepts As Taught In Islam . When Moses Declares in his question , Who Should I Say Sent Me ? ( Exodus 3; 13 ) And The God of The Jewish Torah Answer , '' I Am That I Am '' ( Exodus 3 ; 14 ) . ( Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh < Aramic > Then he Declares The Jewish Concept Of God . In The Bible God Enters As Eloheem First In Genesis 1 ; 1 . Then Becomes Yahweh Eloheem ( Genesis 2 ; 4 ) . Onto just Yahweh ( Genesis 4 ; 26 ) And even onto Adonia ( Genesis 15 ; 2 ) This growing process from Plural To Singular . Establisher The Birth Of Each Of The God Concepts Of Judaism In The Torah , Though He Has Many Other NameThere . These Are The Basic Principals . Now For The Christians . Who Choose To Use Greek and Latin ; Two Languages That Jesus The Christ ( DID NOT SPEAK ) They took on The Same Principle Of Judaism and used Theos , God , Kurios , Lord or Despotes and Dios . While each claim that The God that represnts them by Whichever name they call on . to use according to whichever language they chose . was the very God of The Beginning of Creation . All The While . Their Books Scriptures , Scrolls Or Tablets Were Written Many Thousand of Years After The Fact . The Fact Is . That Their God Has Its Origin With The Birth Of Each Of Their Releigions . The Same Will Apply To . Hinduism . Buddhism . Seikism . Baha ; ism Which Are Religion To House Their God Concept . There Would Be No God .. So In This Sense , God Has A Beginning , Or As Each Of You Come To Know Of God That Is His Beginning , Or At Least To Each Person . Let me guess, your going to "surprise" us all and pull a silly rabbit answer out of your hat. Betcha cant wait huh?
Does God Have A Beginning ?

Ezraarah
March 28th 2004, 10:40 AM
is his pressence inside the mind of his creations. The moment we are aware of God, is the beginning of his presence in our conciousness.
Very Good Answer . . Thankyou

PhilA
March 30th 2004, 05:59 AM
Who Choose To Use Greek and Latin ; Two Languages That Jesus The Christ ( DID NOT SPEAK )
Hmmmm not sure about that. If I remember rightly, Jesus had a bit of a conversation with a Roman Centurion at one point. It is very unlikely that a Roman Centurion would have bothered to learn the local language and would probably have spoken Greek. The implication here is that both Jesus and the Centurion could communicate in the same language, thus implying that Jesus also spoke Greek.

Any thoughts on this?

Solly
March 30th 2004, 06:37 AM
Hmmmm not sure about that. If I remember rightly, Jesus had a bit of a conversation with a Roman Centurion at one point. It is very unlikely that a Roman Centurion would have bothered to learn the local language and would probably have spoken Greek. The implication here is that both Jesus and the Centurion could communicate in the same language, thus implying that Jesus also spoke Greek.

Any thoughts on this?

Jesus lived in Galilee, notorious for its Greek influences. Jesus spoke to Pilate, a Latin speaker, or at least Greek. why would Pilate put Christ's chrage in latin and greek.
The septuagint was in Greek too.

PhilA
March 30th 2004, 07:16 AM
Jesus lived in Galilee, notorious for its Greek influences. Jesus spoke to Pilate, a Latin speaker, or at least Greek. why would Pilate put Christ's chrage in latin and greek.
The septuagint was in Greek too.
Not sure whether you are agreeing with me there or not Solly. :blush:

I believe that Jesus could speak Greek. Although it is not directly said, it is inferred in the Gospels with Jesus conversation to the Centurion, and as you have pointed out, with Pilate. I do not think that the Romans would have bothered to learn the local language - few invading people do learn the local language. The good old British Empire never bothered - we just made every body else speak English instead. At that time, Greek was the international language, much like English is today.