Ezraarah - Did Jesus Die?

[seer]

Ezraarah, since you have been quoting the NT to further your arguments I wonder - do you believe the Gospels when they teach that Jesus died?

[Ezraarah]

Ezraarah, since you have been quoting the NT to further your arguments I wonder - do you believe the Gospels when they teach that Jesus died?
Belief Is Ignorance . Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly , If One Has To Believe , It Means He Or She Does Not Know . And If One Does Not Know , That Is Ignorance . Hence Belief Is Ignorance And Religious Belief WithOut The Facts Is Ignorance , ( Got The Point ) .
LaughingBigTimeHere Still Asking Question , But Wont Answer Mines .
Ques; If God Is The First And The Last , Who Established His Time Zone & What Was It Based Upon ?
By The Way Anyone Who Reads What I Post , Can Tell I Read And Use The Whole , Bible , Unlike You I Don't Pick And Chose What Part Of The Bible To Use To BackUp My Point .. Again Now When You Answer This Question , I'll Give You , Your Answer . Boy I Must Have Really Hit A Nerve , Your Trying So Hard To Tag Me Or Disprove What I Post < LaughingBigTimeHere> Which You Will < Never > Be Able To < But You Are Good For Laugh > Divine Truth NEVER Conflict , Didn't You Know This .....LaughingggggggggggggggggggggggggggAt You

[seer]

Ezraarah, you are lookind quite foolish. I suspect that you are a teenager - so that is to be expected. Now the Gospels, the Book Of Acts, The letters of Peter, John and The Book Of Revelation (notice I did not mention Paul) all teach that Christ died. You have been using many of these same sources to make your arguments - so you must believe them to be accurate - if not you have been lying.

So all of these sources say that Christ literally died - do you believe that?

Yes or No?

[Ezraarah]

Ezraarah, you are lookind quite foolish. I suspect that you are a teenager - so that is to be expected. Now the Gospels, the Book Of Acts, The letters of Peter, John and The Book Of Revelation (notice I did not mention Paul) all teach that Christ died. You have been using many of these same sources to make your arguments - so you must believe them to be accurate - if not you have been lying.

So all of these sources say that Christ literally died - do you believe that?

Yes or No?
Belief Is Ignorance . Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly , If One Has To Believe , It Means He Or She Does Not Know . And If One Does Not Know , That Is Ignorance . Hence Belief Is Ignorance And Religious Belief WithOut The Facts Is Ignorance , ( Got The Point )

[GhostontheNet]

Ah yes, you cut and pasted your incoherant reply again? You accuse us of unreasonableness! Not only is the New Testament in favor of the death of Jesus, many of the secular references to Jesus mention his death as documented in the links at the bottom of this article http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_01_01_01.html under "What about the Christians."

[Busheses]

I guess this is a new one. I always thought that Jesus died on the cross. It was the randsome sacrifice that had to be paid in exchange for our salvation. If you read the gospels it is very clear that Jesus died. However, he died a physical death, not the spiritual kind. Jesus would have experienced an spiritual death had he sinned just like Adam and Eve, but he did not sin so his death is only physical and only affected his body.

[Ezraarah]

Ah yes, you cut and pasted your incoherant reply again? You accuse us of unreasonableness! Not only is the New Testament in favor of the death of Jesus, many of the secular references to Jesus mention his death as documented in the links at the bottom of this article http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_01_01_01.html under "What about the Christians."
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[GhostontheNet]

Aw, no rebutals given to the mindless slaves about almost every reference to Jesus, biblical and extrabiblical mentioning his death? You don't understand that when Dee Dee said you raise too many points, this is in the context of raising too many points for meaningful discussion.

[Jin-Roh]

Ez, you really need to just answer a question for once.

[Catatle]

Belief Is Ignorance . Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly , If One Has To Believe , It Means He Or She Does Not Know . And If One Does Not Know , That Is Ignorance . Hence Belief Is Ignorance And Religious Belief WithOut The Facts Is Ignorance , ( Got The Point ) .

Your reasoning is flawed from the outset. You failed to define belief correctly. But lets assume you are correct.

Ezraarah believes Islam is correct.
Belief is to ignore the facts intentionally or ignorantly.
Therefore, Ez is ignorant about Islam. or maybe he's ignoring the facts intentionally, which leads me to question the crediblity of his religion.


LaughingBigTimeHere Still Asking Question , But Wont Answer Mines .
Ques; If God Is The First And The Last , Who Established His Time Zone & What Was It Based Upon ?
What question did you ask?

I think God said that he was first and last to someone. Perhaps he has no first and last, or (more plausibly) he was talking to people in a way they would understand. I speak cat language with my cat, but my cat doesn't talk to me about guitar equiptment.

as for your question, it was based upon the particular moment that he decided to create time. Or maybe you could answer this...

If Allah Is The First And The Last , Who Established His Time Zone & What Was It Based Upon ?

By The Way Anyone Who Reads What I Post , Can Tell I Read And Use The Whole , Bible , Unlike You I Don't Pick And Chose What Part Of The Bible To Use To BackUp My Point .. Again Now When You Answer This Question , I'll Give You , Your Answer .
Well, the book of Revelation isn't too helpful when you're discussing circumcision rituals. Besides, you haven't quoted one Bible verse in this entire thread. So I can't tell that you use the entire Bible when you post; but I can tell that you use flawed reasoning and outright lies every now and then.

Boy I Must Have Really Hit A Nerve , Your Trying So Hard To Tag Me Or Disprove What I Post < LaughingBigTimeHere> Which You Will < Never > Be Able To < But You Are Good For Laugh > Divine Truth NEVER Conflict , Didn't You Know This .....LaughingggggggggggggggggggggggggggAt You
You're the one who has posted the same incoherent response twice, without responding to the question that was addressed to you. If divine truth can never conflict, then why the clashes between the Sunni's and the Shi'ites? It seems as if divine truth is conflicting with something else.

[heaven]

Your reasoning is flawed from the outset. You failed to define belief correctly. But lets assume you are correct.

Ezraarah believes Islam is correct.
Belief is to ignore the facts intentionally or ignorantly.
Therefore, Ez is ignorant about Islam. or maybe he's ignoring the facts intentionally, which leads me to question the crediblity of his religion.[/size]



What question did you ask?

I think God said that he was first and last to someone. Perhaps he has no first and last, or (more plausibly) he was talking to people in a way they would understand. I speak cat language with my cat, but my cat doesn't talk to me about guitar equiptment.

as for your question, it was based upon the particular moment that he decided to create time. Or maybe you could answer this...

If Allah Is The First And The Last , Who Established His Time Zone & What Was It Based Upon ?


Well, the book of Revelation isn't too helpful when you're discussing circumcision rituals. Besides, you haven't quoted one Bible verse in this entire thread. So I can't tell that you use the entire Bible when you post; but I can tell that you use flawed reasoning and outright lies every now and then.


You're the one who has posted the same incoherent response twice, without responding to the question that was addressed to you. If divine truth can never conflict, then why the clashes between the Sunni's and the Shi'ites? It seems as if divine truth is conflicting with something else.
The question is do you believe that Jesus died on the cross.

Our calendars, history books, bible, do state that Jesus died on the cross.

Moslems state that someone died in the place of Jesus.

The penultim question is the meaning of the cross, why is it there and why would a
holy man pull a switch, he could not be very holy.

Jesus said "I lay down my life for my sheep"