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$cirisme
March 23rd 2003, 02:11 PM
Arabic news channel Al-Jazeera showed footage Sunday of what it said were five U.S. prisoners, including one woman.

The station showed footage of the alleged soldiers being questioned by their captors and being asked things such as where they were from and their names. The tape that was broadcast was reportedly provided by Iraqi television and was edited.

"This is the first we've seen of it -- it looks like Iraqi TV propaganda," said a U.S. Defense Department spokesperson. "What they're doing is wrong -- we're trying to get to the bottom of what we're seeing. We're investigating the tape now."

Defense officials said they were analyzing the video. They also said there is nothing in the tape that would lead them to believe the prisoners were not really U.S. troops.

The footage violated the Geneva Convention, the International Committee of the Red Cross said Sunday.

"Article 13 of the Third Geneva Convention says clearly that prisoners of war must at all times be protected ... against insult and public curiosity," ICRC spokeswoman Nada Doumani told Reuters.

Three prisoners -- including the woman -- said they were from Texas, another was from New Jersey and another from Kansas. At least two of them identified themselves as being part of a maintenance unit.

"I come to shoot only if I am shot at … I wouldn't kill anybody … they don't bother me, I don't bother them," said the Kansas man. "I was told to come here," he said when asked why he came to Iraq.

One Texas man said: "I follow orders," when asked why he was there.

When asked how the Iraqi people have received him -- whether it be with "flowers or guns" -- the Texas man said "I don't understand … they're people of their own country."

The woman said she was 30 years old. She had no shoes on.

The station said the prisoners were captured around Nasiriyah, a major crossing point over the Euphrates River northwest of Basra.

The British Ministry of Defense refused to comment about a BBC report that four were killed and 50 wounded during eight hours of fighting in Nasiriyah.

Al-Jazeera also showed at least one prisoner lying on a cot, appearing to be wounded. Two prisoners were bandaged.

One of the male prisoners, sitting up, was being interviewed by an unseen person holding a microphone labeled "Iraqi TV." The soldier spoke in English and at one point said: "I'm sorry. I don't understand you."

The station also showed a gruesome and disturbing video of bodies in uniform in an Iraqi morgue that it said were Americans.

"There's a real sickened feeling here" after seeing the tape, said Fox News' Mike Tobin at U.S. Central Command in Doha, Qatar.

While an Iraqi smiled at the camera over the bodies and shifted them to better display the wounds, the tape showed what is purported to be U.S. Marines in U.S. military attire lying on the floor with serious head and torso wounds -- many execution style.

At one point, Iraqis pulled out what appears to be a passport and other papers out of one deceased person's pocket. Soldiers' shirts were pulled up, and pants pulled down, to show the extent of the wounds.

Al-Jazeera also showed footage of what appeared to be a fuel or water carrier parked alongside a highway and a body in uniform with full gear and still wearing a helmet lying behind the carrier.

...More here. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81911,00.html)

It is so sad... :bawl:

yxboom
March 23rd 2003, 02:15 PM
Im not understanding if it is propoganda isn't it working to counter the intent of propoganda?

$cirisme
March 23rd 2003, 02:18 PM
Huh? :xmm:

QED
March 23rd 2003, 02:23 PM
This is tragic, but I'm suprised to hear that it was a violation of the Geneva Convention. I know I have seen video footage of Iraqi POW's on CNN in the past day or two.

$cirisme
March 23rd 2003, 02:30 PM
From my understanding(I'm searching for a copy of the document online right now), it is not against the Geneva convention to show POWs, but they must not be stripped of their honor. The Americans would be allowed to be on TV based on the Geneva convention, but there are two violations(from what I gather):

1. They took the POW's shirts off, and pulled their pants down to show the extent of injuries.

2. They were questioned by military officials, and the video was shown on TV.

I don't know about you, but I haven't seen either on major American media outlets. :xmm:

QED
March 23rd 2003, 02:42 PM
That makes more sense. It wasn't clear from the OP.

spl_cadet
March 23rd 2003, 03:24 PM
Bastards. Looks like some Iraqi's are going to have their necks stretched after the war. :rant:

yxboom
March 23rd 2003, 03:40 PM
I found this @ Yahoo news. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030323/161/3llfz.html)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030323/mdf239964.jpg


Iraq Shows Dead and Captured U.S. Soldiers
A combination picture from Iraqi television shows five unidentified prisoners who said they were Americans taken in a battle near the southern city of Nassiriya. Iraqi television showed the video on March 23, 2003 which also showed at least four bodies, said to be U.S. soldiers. (Iraqi TV/Reuters)

spl_cadet
March 23rd 2003, 03:50 PM
It looks like they punched the one on the top right.

Hitch
March 23rd 2003, 04:15 PM
Al-Jazeera violates the Geneava convention by showing video of POWs



I doubt if its possible for Al-Jazeera , as a private communications firm to violate the Geneva Convention.

This does not apply to state owned IRAQ TV.

Its likely this particular raid was 'performed' for the cameras of IRAQ TV. The Iraqi military and IRAQ TV working in consort. It is impossible that a legitimate film crew just happend to be so near the action.

IRAQ TV its employees and managers are, and should be sought out and treated as, criminals of war.


H

GrayPilgrim
March 24th 2003, 01:49 AM
What makes it a vioaltion is that Iraqi State TV was their at the behest of the Iraqi regieme for the express purposes of humiliatiing them.

It is okay to show a tape of POWs as this is often how countries show their POWs so that people know that they are aliveback home.

The difference also lies in that FoxNews or CNN for example are private companies and not an arm of any of the Beligerants.

GP

kiwimac
March 24th 2003, 02:56 AM
Yeah right Graypilgrim, yeah right!

:hrm: