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Jimmy Higgins
March 24th 2003, 06:08 PM
Fox was wrong... AGAIN! (http://www.datekdj.newsalert.com/bin/djstory?StoryId=CpN6q0aebqLqWmduWmJu)

Of course, I'm sure everyone in here will admit being wrong and admitting Fox is a joke when it comes to news reporting. No wonder the other news networks were laying off of this HUGE bombshell.

Captain Ochre
March 24th 2003, 06:11 PM
Today @ 10:08 PM located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=43917#post43917)
Jimmy Higgins:

Fox was wrong... AGAIN! (http://www.datekdj.newsalert.com/bin/djstory?StoryId=CpN6q0aebqLqWmduWmJu)

Of course, I'm sure everyone in here will admit being wrong and admitting Fox is a joke when it comes to news reporting. No wonder the other news networks were laying off of this HUGE bombshell.

I could be wrong, but I don't remember FOX giving any unequivocal report that the plant was a chemical weapons plant, nor you providing any evidence that they had apart from your report of what you heard over the air.

Jimmy Higgins
March 24th 2003, 06:25 PM
Fox and Propaganda (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81935,00.html)

Coalition forces discovered Monday a "huge" suspected chemical weapons factory near the Iraqi city of Najaf, some 90 miles south of Baghdad, a senior Pentagon official confirmed to Fox News.Sounds like they already felt it was, opening the story like that in bold.

$cirisme
March 24th 2003, 07:17 PM
Coalition forces discovered Monday a "huge" suspected chemical weapons factory near the Iraqi city of Najaf, some 90 miles south of Baghdad, a senior Pentagon official confirmed to Fox News.

:duh:

kiwimac
March 24th 2003, 08:37 PM
Hmmm....

Fox.... what can I say. Why I use the BBC!

Kiwimac:bonk:

Jimmy Higgins
March 24th 2003, 09:09 PM
Today @ 07:37 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=44024#post44024)
kiwimac:

Hmmm....

Fox.... what can I say. Why I use the BBC!

Kiwimac:bonk: Newsworld International is perhaps the only source normally available that could be considered better. BBC is good, but I'm such a fan of CBC.

Rubia Warren
March 24th 2003, 09:42 PM
Okay, I was wrong................. this time.:hrm:

yxboom
March 24th 2003, 09:45 PM
Today @ 03:17 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=43980#post43980)
cirisme:



:duh:
SUSPECTED
:duh:

Rusty T
March 24th 2003, 10:29 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/24/iraq/scene/main545829.shtml


makes you kinda suspicious don't it now
The gas masks were indeed brand new, as were the decontamination kits, and atropeine -- used to treat exposure to nerve agents.

wienerdog
March 24th 2003, 10:37 PM
The article I read at http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1084802,00.html said that "UN weapons inspectors have said they are not aware of any large-scale chemical sites in Najaf." Even if this was an old site, weren't they supposed to report it in that 10,000+ page document they submitted?

Epoetker
March 24th 2003, 10:45 PM
Oh, it's looking like it was definitely a chem weapons PLANT. Where the chemical WEAPONS went (Syria, the nearset Baath stronghold, most likely) is an open question.

Solly
March 25th 2003, 09:19 AM
Right Idea got bitten on this one when he triumphantly posted an article from WorldNewsNet declaring a chemical plant had been found. Trouble was, by the timne i read it, they had altered it as the report was palyed down to "old chemical plant".

$cirisme
March 25th 2003, 03:30 PM
The initial report says that it has not been used recently, but that is only the initial report.

They'll do a more exhaustive report after the war. :duh:

Epoetker
March 25th 2003, 09:44 PM
This report better include an explanation of what happened to this stuff:

http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/0303/25/a05-118470.htm

We so seriously need to re-check Osirak...

$cirisme
March 26th 2003, 02:35 PM
Excuse me if I don't see how Fox was wrong.

It WAS a chemical weapons factory.

:ahem:

The Laughing Man
March 26th 2003, 03:15 PM
The subject of this thread is false. The article doesn't state that a chemical weapons plant wasn't found - only that no weapons were found at the suspected site. Not a big surprise, actually. It's very likely that the Iraqis hid the weapons elsewhere. Perhaps, like the news story I heard on the radio this morning about (non-chemical) weaponry and gear (including a tank and chem suits!), they hid them in a hospital or school.

So far, it's waddling and quacking like a duck, folks.

$cirisme
April 10th 2003, 03:24 PM
Please tell me how Fox was wrong. :smile:

yxboom
April 10th 2003, 03:26 PM
You mean...


03-24-2003 @ 05:45 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=44055#post44055)
yxboom:


SUSPECTED
:duh:

$cirisme
April 10th 2003, 03:40 PM
Yes, exactly.

Obviously Jimmy needs to pay more attention to things. :duh:

And I am waiting for his advice on how to speed up the server. Be prepared to upgrade the hdd, boom. :bonk:

Pilgrim
April 15th 2003, 06:01 PM
So no chem plant yet eh?

Captain Ochre
April 15th 2003, 06:23 PM
Today @ 11:01 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=68158#post68158)
Pilgrim:

So no chem plant yet eh?

I'll explain the thread to Pilgrim.
Yes, a chemical plant was found.
No, chemical weapons were not found at the plant.
Fox News announced the finding of a suspected chemical weapons plant. The chemical plant that was found was the suspected chemical weapons plant, so a suspected chemical weapons plant was found.
Mmm-kay?

Jimmy Higgins
April 15th 2003, 07:09 PM
04-10-2003 @ 03:40 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=61912#post61912)
cirisme:
Obviously Jimmy needs to pay more attention to things. :duh:Yeah. Sure. Fox didn't mean that chemical weapons were found. Can't you folks read between the lines? Fox was the only "mainstream" media that really was pressing this, as they have with any other "discovery" such as the Weapons of Mass Insect Destruction. Fox ran with that, most others didn't.

And I am waiting for his advice on how to speed up the server. Be prepared to upgrade the hdd, boom. :bonk: HAW HAW HAW! That's great. Once again I'll just toss my own experience with computers down the drain. I mean simply because such a thing actually does work in my experience.

Pilgrim
April 15th 2003, 07:32 PM
ANd how do they know it was a chemical plant for manufacturing chemical weapons?

Captain Ochre
April 15th 2003, 11:44 PM
Today @ 12:32 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=68306#post68306)
Pilgrim:

ANd how do they know it was a chemical plant for manufacturing chemical weapons?

Are you replying to me, Pilgrim?

For the answer, you would have to read my previous post to this thread.
Happy hunting.

Pilgrim
April 16th 2003, 11:23 AM
Sorry I didn' find your previous post to this thread explaining that. I assume that the believe it have been a munitions oriented plant because of the protective gear that was found there?

How old it his plant anyway? Was it around before or during Gulf War I?

Captain Ochre
April 16th 2003, 11:45 AM
Today @ 04:23 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=69447#post69447)
Pilgrim:

Sorry I didn' find your previous post to this thread explaining that.


:smile:
My previous post explains, by implication, that it wasn't assumed that the plant was used to make chemical weapons.



I assume that the believe it have been a munitions oriented plant because of the protective gear that was found there?


Why would you assume that "they" believed it to be a munitions-oriented plant?
The reporter believed the plant suspicious because it appeared to have been disguised from aerial identification.



How old it his plant anyway? Was it around before or during Gulf War I?

IIRC, the site does date from the Gulf War era, and the follow-up inspection revealed that the site hadn't been used for its primary purpose (chemical manufacture) for some years.

$cirisme
April 16th 2003, 05:26 PM
Yesterday @ 05:09 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=68267#post68267)
Jimmy Higgins:

Yeah. Sure. Fox didn't mean that chemical weapons were found. Can't you folks read between the lines?

Sure, but I'm careful not to insert my own bias; something you seem unable to do.


Fox was the only "mainstream" media that really was pressing this, as they have with any other "discovery" such as the Weapons of Mass Insect Destruction. Fox ran with that, most others didn't.

And your point would be?



HAW HAW HAW! That's great. Once again I'll just toss my own experience with computers down the drain. I mean simply because such a thing actually does work in my experience.

Great, and only in your experience, too. :ahem:

Pilgrim
April 16th 2003, 07:11 PM
Did anyone hear, I believe it was a story introduced by Terry Grosse this afternoon about the lack of evedince so far?

Pilgrim
April 16th 2003, 07:12 PM
Oh, it was on NPR, obviously.

Jimmy Higgins
April 19th 2003, 10:45 PM
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$cirisme
April 21st 2003, 02:18 PM
:poke:

Eyeheart Pumpkin
April 21st 2003, 03:09 PM
04-19-2003 @ 09:45 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=73721#post73721)
Jimmy Higgins:

http://graphics.theonion.com/pics_3914/infograph_3914.jpg
That's pretty good! I still like this one a lot: