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elysian
April 9th 2004, 01:50 PM
For the purpose of this discussion "Open Communion" is defined as sharing Communion with baptized Christian believers who understand the Real Presence- whether they be Lutheran Christians or not. "Closed Communion" is the practice of withholding Communion unless a person is a member of the local church, or an "approved" visitor. This is still a common practice in many Lutheran churches. In Luther's teaching though, he stresses coming forth for Communion often and with the understanding that it is God's gift and ordinance to all believers. Nowhere does he mention church membership or even instruction or catechism as a qualification for communing. (though he does stress education of the young in the faith.)

With this Word you can strengthen your conscience and say: If a hundred thousand devils, together with all fanatics, should rush forward, crying, How can bread and wine be the body and blood of Christ? etc., I know that all spirits and scholars together are not as wise as is the Divine Majesty in His little finger. 13] Now here stands the Word of Christ: Take, eat; this is My body; Drink ye all of it; this is the new testament in My blood, etc. Here we abide, and would like to see those who will constitute themselves His masters, and make it different from what He has spoken. It is true, indeed, that if you take away the Word or regard it without the words, you have nothing but mere bread and wine. 14] But if the words remain with them, as they shall and must, then, in virtue of the same, it is truly the body and blood of Christ. For as the lips of Christ say and speak, so it is, as He can never lie or deceive. 15] Hence it is easy to reply to all manner of questions about which men are troubled at the present time, such as this one: Whether even a wicked priest can minister at, and dispense, the Sacrament, and whatever other questions like this there may be. 16] For here we conclude and say: Even though a knave takes or distributes the Sacrament, he receives the true Sacrament, that is, the true body and blood of Christ, just as truly as he who [receives or] administers it in the most worthy manner. For it is not founded upon the holiness of men, but upon the Word of God. And as no saint upon earth, yea, no angel in heaven, can make bread and wine to be the body and blood of Christ, so also can no one change or alter it, even though it be misused. 17] For the Word by which it became a Sacrament and was instituted does not become false because of the person or his unbelief. For He does not say: If you believe or are worthy, you receive My body and blood, but: Take, eat and drink; this is My body and blood. Likewise: Do this (namely, what I now do, institute, give, and bid you take). 18] That is as much as to say, No matter whether you are worthy or unworthy, you have here His body and blood by virtue of these words which are added to the bread and wine. 19] Only note and remember this well; for upon these words rest all our foundation, protection, and defense against all errors and deception that have ever come or may yet come.

In Luther's time the RCC had made numerous rules and regulations regarding Communion. It was not a weekly practice, but one that occurred once or twice a year. And even then many people did not partake because of the fierce warnings against it wrongly, that were likely based upon a misapplication or overemphasis upon 1 Corinthians 11:27-30-

"Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep

Paul was speaking to Corinth- a very worldly and wicked city not unlike say, Las Vegas! It was a hotbed of immorality and people were not only getting drunk and stupid (taking Communion as a drunken party) but they were also rude about it- bringing their own bread and wine and other fare, forgetting about the poor among them, and basically turning the Lord's Supper into a bacchanalia. This was the sin Paul warned of: turning the Lord's Supper into a free-for-all at the Smorgasbord. It wasn't supposed to be about sating physical hunger, and it wasn't supposed to be a drunken party. You don't take the Body and Blood of Christ lightly! Yet for us to forbid Christian believers from the Lord's Table, who may not be church members but who have been baptized and do take the Lord's Supper rightly is also inhospitality. It is the Lord's Supper after all, not ours.

Thus we have the entire Sacrament, both as to what it is in itself and as to what it brings and profits. Now we must also see who is the person that receives this power and benefit. That is answered briefly, as we said above of Baptism and often elsewhere: Whoever believes it has what the words declare and bring. For they are not spoken or proclaimed to stone and wood, but to those who hear them, to whom He says: 34]Take and eat, etc. And because He offers and promises forgiveness of sin, it cannot be received otherwise than by faith. This faith He Himself demands in the Word when He says: Given and shed for you. As if He said: For this reason I give it, and bid you eat and drink, that you may claim it as yours and enjoy it. 35] Whoever now accepts these words, and believes that what they declare is true, has it. But whoever does not believe it has nothing, as he allows it to be offered to him in vain, and refuses to enjoy such a saving good. The treasure, indeed, is opened and placed at every one's door, yea, upon his table, but it is necessary that you also claim it, and confidently view it as the words suggest to you 36] This, now, is the entire Christian preparation for receiving this Sacrament worthily.

ALL Christian believers who are baptized are invited to partake at the Lord's Table, it is a matter of accepting and believing that Christ's words are true- not of being a member of a church or meeting any other criteria.

We must, therefore, make a distinction here among men. For those who are wanton and dissolute must be told to stay away; for they are not prepared to receive forgiveness of sin, since they do not desire it and do not wish to be godly. 59] But the others, who are not such callous and wicked people, and desire to be godly, must not absent themselves, even though otherwise they be feeble and full of infirmities, as St. Hilary also has said: If any one have not committed sin for which he can rightly be put out of the congregation and esteemed as no Christian, he ought not stay away from the Sacrament, lest he may deprive himself of life. 60] For no one will make such progress that he will not retain many daily infirmities in flesh and blood.

Unless a Christian is guilty of unrepentant sin (not wanting to be forgiven and made clean) there is no danger in receiving the Sacrament, in fact we need to be nourished in this way. It is by God's grace as demonstrated for us in Jesus' death that we can come to repentance and forgiveness.

Therefore such people must learn that it is the highest art to know that our Sacrament does not depend upon our worthiness. For we are not baptized because we are worthy and holy, nor do we go to confession because we are pure and without sin, but the contrary, because we are poor miserable men, and just because we are unworthy; unless it be some one who desires no grace and absolution nor intends to reform. But whoever would gladly obtain grace and consolation should impel himself, and allow no one to frighten him away, but say: I, indeed, would like to be worthy; but I come, not upon any worthiness, but upon Thy Word, because Thou hast commanded it, as one who would gladly be Thy disciple, no matter what becomes of my worthiness...

Jesus tells us to do it, so go: partake, because He has made us worthy, not because we feel worth, not because we have a "higher understanding" (the Real Presence is a mystery, after all) and most certainly not on our own merits! :teeth:

For here He offers to us the entire treasure which He has brought for us from heaven, and to which He invites us also in other places with the greatest kindness, as when He says in St. Matthew 11, 28: Come unto Me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 67] Now it is surely a sin and a shame that He so cordially and faithfully summons and exhorts us to our highest and greatest good, and we act so distantly with regard to it, and permit so long a time to pass [without partaking of the Sacrament] that we grow quite cold and hardened, so that we have no inclination or love for it. 68] We must never regard the Sacrament as something injurious from which we had better flee, but as a pure, wholesome, comforting remedy imparting salvation and comfort, which will cure you and give you life both in soul and body. For where the soul has recovered, the body also is relieved. Why, then, is it that we act as if it were a poison, the eating of which would bring death? To be sure, it is true that those who despise it and live in an unchristian manner receive it to their hurt and damnation; for nothing shall be good or wholesome to them, just as with a sick person who from caprice eats and drinks what is forbidden him by the physician. 70] But those who are sensible of their weakness, desire to be rid of it and long for help, should regard and use it only as a precious antidote against the poison which they have in them. For here in the Sacrament you are to receive from the lips of Christ forgiveness of sin, which contains and brings with it the grace of God and the Spirit with all His gifts, protection, shelter, and power against death and the devil and all misfortune.

Here above it seems Luther is speaking against the misapplication of 1 Corinthians 11:28-30. He also stresses that for the repentant sinner we find healing in the Sacrament as well as salvation and comfort, and that we should partake of it often and joyfully.

Thus you have, on the part of God, both the command and the promise of the Lord Jesus Christ. Besides this, on your part, your own distress which is about your neck, and because of which this command, invitation, and promise are given, ought to impel you. For He Himself says: They that be whole, need not a physician, but they that be sick; that is, those who are weary and heavy-laden with their sins, with the fear of death, temptations of the flesh and of the devil. 72] If, therefore, you are heavy-laden and feel your weakness, then go joyfully to this Sacrament and obtain refreshment, consolation, and strength. 73] For if you would wait until you are rid of such burdens, that you might come to the Sacrament pure and worthy, you must forever stay away. For in that case He pronounces sentence and says: 74] If you are pure and godly, you have no need of Me, and I, in turn, none of thee. Therefore those alone are called unworthy who neither feel their infirmities nor wish to be considered sinners. Luther's Large Catechism, Of the Sacrament http://old.www.lcms.org/bookofconcord/largecatechism/7_sacrament.asp

Here Luther is saying: go to the Sacrament! Go to it often, and don't wait until you're perfect to do it because then you can never go, and you'll simply get more apathetic and sink deeper into sin. The Sacrament is healing for sinners, rather than a reward for saints! If we were truly "perfect" on our own merit we would have no need for either Jesus or the Sacraments. It's about grace, and what God does for us.

Amazing Rando
April 9th 2004, 03:44 PM
To the Dean's List with you, Elysian! While I don't know too much about Lutheranism, we Methodists practice open communion for much the same reasons- all those who truly love the Lord accept his free grace and salvation are welcome at the communion table. We do this because we believe it's how God will treat us at the grand Banquet in the future! :smile:

elysian
April 9th 2004, 04:22 PM
To the Dean's List with you, Elysian! While I don't know too much about Lutheranism, we Methodists practice open communion for much the same reasons- all those who truly love the Lord accept his free grace and salvation are welcome at the communion table. We do this because we believe it's how God will treat us at the grand Banquet in the future! :smile:

The Book of Concord is a good place to start, as well as Luther's writings and sermons.
Here's a good place online to start trolling:
http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/djw/lutherantheology.html

This guy is Missouri Synod (which is a little further to the right of where I am but not much) but his info especially the links to the Book of Concord are very good. There are also some sermons and teachings on specific subjects that are helpful.

Lutherans and Methodists aren't terribly far apart. We are both liturgical though I am not sure if Methodists are sacramental though I think they are. Probably the main difference is on the definition of the Real Presence.

Lutherans, like RC's also have no problem with alcohol use in moderation and the use of wine in Communion. Lutherans do not approve of the misuse of alcohol- i.e. drinking to get drunk. If I am not mistaken Methodists condemn the use of all alcohol and use grape juice for Communion (at my church we use wine but we also provide grape juice for those who have problems with wine.)

Amazing Rando
April 9th 2004, 04:56 PM
The Book of Concord is a good place to start, as well as Luther's writings and sermons.
Here's a good place online to start trolling:
http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/djw/lutherantheology.html

This guy is Missouri Synod (which is a little further to the right of where I am but not much) but his info especially the links to the Book of Concord are very good. There are also some sermons and teachings on specific subjects that are helpful.

Thanks!

Lutherans and Methodists aren't terribly far apart. We are both liturgical what do you mean by "liturgical?"

though I am not sure if Methodists are sacramental though I think they are.

We do have sacraments, if that's what you mean!

Probably the main difference is on the definition of the Real Presence.

Yep. Though I think I understand Real Presence a little more lately.

Lutherans, like RC's also have no problem with alcohol use in moderation and the use of wine in Communion. Lutherans do not approve of the misuse of alcohol- i.e. drinking to get drunk. If I am not mistaken Methodists condemn the use of all alcohol and use grape juice for Communion (at my church we use wine but we also provide grape juice for those who have problems with wine.)

I personally choose not to drink, but I don't think we have any official doctrinal standards on abstinance from alcohol. But yes, we do use grape juice. We do communion by intinction- by dipping the bread into the grape juice. That's my favorite way of doing it anyhow.

elysian
April 10th 2004, 10:46 PM
Thanks!

what do you mean by "liturgical?"

Your worship service follows a set pattern, a liturgy. (somewhat similar to the pattern of Catholic Mass) Methodists also as far as I'm aware observe the church year as well, and the liturgy changes according to the season.

Liturgy is a framework, there are certain things that are always there though you may change the words or how you do them. For instance you can still be liturgical and have contemporary worship music. But you will always have a structure similar to this:

Prelude
Opening Hymn
Welcome, opening prayer
Rite of corporate confession/forgiveness
Kyrie ("Lord have Mercy"- also known as Kyrie Elaison)
Scripture Readings (usually a Psalm/OT reading or readings)
Gospel
Sermon
Sermon Hymn(s)
Prayers of thanks and intercession
Apostle's or Nicene Creed
Lord's Prayer
Communion
Communion Hymn
Prayers
Sending Hymn
Aaronic blessing and dismissal

Liturgical means you use a set framework for worship. Your church may even use a lectionary or specific Scripture/Gospel readings for each Sunday of the church year. Liturgical does not mean "only certain types of music" or "only certain instruments." I'm weird on this one because most "traditional" hymns were at one time popular songs- one of our very strongest witnesses to God is through music. He can speak through all genres of music! Does He expect tribal people to praise Him with harpsichords and organs? (no matter how much I love Mozart and Handel?) Are the Southern Baptists in NC wrong to praise God with a bluegrass ensemble? Does He expect American teens to be getting down with "A Mighty Fortress" ? (even though I personally love that song especially with brass- I love classical/traditional music, as well as I can't resist a screaming lead guitar but that's me.) Shouldn't the kids praise Him with the music that speaks to their hearts?

Liturgy is a good tradition, but turning liturgy into a dry, lifeless observance is neither service nor worship. I agree it is not to be entertainment, but the liturgy itself provides balance: music for worship and praise, confession and Kyrie to petition God's mercy, the Scripture/Gospel and sermon to enlighten us both in our heads and hearts, the Creed to affirm our faith and remind us of Who we believe in, Communion to be fed, to partake of our Lord's Body and Blood as he commanded, intercessory prayers and prayers of thanksgiving so we can pour ourselves, and the needs of those around us out to the Lord and thank Him for His goodness, a blessing to send us because Lord knows we need it. :lol:

Many Lutheran churches refer to Sunday Worship as Divine Service which is really a more accurate description of what liturgy is: we are being served and fed and strengthened for our real act of worship which is how we live when we aren't in church. :pray: