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Jimmy Higgins
April 15th 2004, 12:20 PM
I can't get to Infidels, so I'll ask here in the mean time.

Is it wrong to expect a significant other to not become fat? Of course, such a demand would also mean that both people would need to be in the same boat. A fat man couldn't expect his significant other to stay thin. I've been pondering this and believe I feel this way. I'm kinda wondering if its reasonable or moral. And by fat, I mean weight gain due to laziness.

anthrogirl
April 15th 2004, 12:40 PM
It's a matter of health and lifestyle, Jimmy. Of course one would desire some congruency of lifestyle when partnering with someone. And as for the health piece, who wants to see someone they love suffer from the diseases that kill 80% of Americans? Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, Cancer--all have a strong positive correlation with obesity--most are totally preventable.

best of luck,
anthrogirl

Lunatrek
April 15th 2004, 12:53 PM
Whatever happened to unconditional love?

Please do not post in nontheist only areas.

Rubia Warren
April 15th 2004, 01:04 PM
I think you can still love someone even if they become fat, but I don't see it as wrong if a person who is into a healthy lifestyle would like for their partner to do the same.

Please do not post in nontheist only areas.

anthrogirl
April 15th 2004, 01:29 PM
Whatever happened to unconditional love?
good point.
I guess I'm saddened by the fact that many people don't seem to think about the far-reaching implications of partnership. I don't mean to sound so course. It's very serious, and many people play it like the lottery.

anthrogirl

Gilgaron
April 15th 2004, 02:00 PM
I don't think it is any more unreasonable than it would be to ask them to stop smoking or other unhealthy behavior.

You'd have to be tactful to avoid coming off as shallow, however, which might be difficult.

Jimmy Higgins
April 15th 2004, 02:08 PM
Whatever happened to unconditional love?
That's reserved for parents and their children.

A partner can do something that would certainly warrant an out in a relationship, such as adultery.

I do like the health angle. The question is merely theoretical, atleast on my part. I was just curious. I mean, me being a runner and all, I feel there is an obligation to each other.

(Jimmy Higgins pondering why theists are posting in non-theist room)

Archimedes
April 15th 2004, 05:06 PM
I find this topic to be totally inappropriate for this forum. Couldn't wait for a few hours for IIDB to come back up?

Jimmy Higgins
April 15th 2004, 09:06 PM
I find this topic to be totally inappropriate for this forum. Couldn't wait for a few hours for IIDB to come back up?Sue me! Geesh. :teeth:

dizzle
April 16th 2004, 05:15 AM
Jimmy did you wish for nontheist participation only? I await to hear from you and I will either edit out the thiest response or move the thread.

BeHereNow
April 16th 2004, 05:53 AM
I can't get to Infidels, so I'll ask here in the mean time.

Is it wrong to expect a significant other to not become fat? Of course, such a demand would also mean that both people would need to be in the same boat. A fat man couldn't expect his significant other to stay thin. I've been pondering this and believe I feel this way. I'm kinda wondering if its reasonable or moral. And by fat, I mean weight gain due to laziness.

I don't think it's unreasonable at all. Most obesity in the US is due to overeating, unhealthy eating, and lack of exercise (which all amount to laziness, as you said). So, to me, obesity is very unattractive, and I wouldn't want my wife to be unattractive to me.

I've always dated girls that are in shape, and I wouldn't hide the fact that I expect her to stay in shape if we get married, and that I'd expect her to feel the same way about me (to keep me motivated).

That being said, I'm not sure why this is in the atheist only forum..

rach12
April 19th 2004, 11:49 AM
I don't think it's unreasonable either. People are attracted to certain aspects of another person. Attraction leads (or can lead) to sex - for the most part. Sex is an important part of a marriage or a relationship.

If your partner gains weight, sometimes love can look past a few extra inches. Other times, you're completely turned off. That's not to say you don't love your partner, you just don't feel as attracted to them and are therefore less likely to engage in sexual relations and more likely to separate.

I think gaining weight may be the biggest obstacle to long-term marriage - besides just plain human nature.

However as people age, we do tend to gain weight, mainly from a lack of activity, but as long as it's not excessive, a few extra pounds over the years shouldn't hurt a relationship.


BHN:

I'm not sure why this is in the atheist only forum..
Because we're less moral than everyone else and need to discuss our abhorrant penchant for ostracizing fat partners??? :wink:

Ghettochild
April 19th 2004, 03:24 PM
I freakin love fifth element! That movie rocked

rach12
April 20th 2004, 12:29 AM
I freakin love fifth element! That movie rocked
:thumb: One of my all-time favorite movies.

Thought it was a whacked out movie at first and resisted watching it, but after the first time, I was hooked.

Gary Oldman was an absolute genius and Chris Tucker hilarious. Bruce Willis, Milla J., and Ian Holm were all perfect as well. It's definitely much more popular on DVD than when it came out in theatres. It's a cult classic for sure!

Ghettochild
April 20th 2004, 07:35 PM
you green, my man?
:highfive:

rach12
April 20th 2004, 10:56 PM
Supergreen!


:lol:

BoPeep
June 15th 2004, 11:08 PM
I can't get to Infidels
It's like life without the sun, trying to breath without oxygen...

Is it wrong to expect a significant other to not become fat? Of course, such a demand would also mean that both people would need to be in the same boat. A fat man couldn't expect his significant other to stay thin. I've been pondering this and believe I feel this way. I'm kinda wondering if its reasonable or moral. And by fat, I mean weight gain due to laziness.
This is a personal pet peave for me because I've dropped a significant amount of weight through personal discipline. This physical discipline has become a defining trait. My husband hasn't really prioritized fitness (to put it mildly). I feel like it can cause a lot of conflict between partners not only due to the physical attraction issue but also because it frequently results in a conflict of personal interests and priorities.