I'm so bummed about Kravitz and Mellencamp.

[Rubia Warren]

I just heard on CNN that Lenny Kravitz and John Mellencamp have new anti-war songs out, on the rock the vote website (along with several other artists). I'm so bummed out.
Kravitz I can see... he's always kinda been like that, but Mellencamp? I used to love these 2 guys. Aw, I still do, but I am bummed now.

[Gavin]

Those darned liberals invading the music scene!:argh:

[yxboom]

invading :huh: isn't that their homebase :hrm:

[flipper]

How are you Conservatives!!!

All your music homebase are belong to us.

[efta777]

Toby Keith's got a good Pro War song out. He may not be as big as the others, but it's a better song than either of theirs

[Rubia Warren]

Today @ 12:15 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=45896#post45896)
flipper:

How are you Conservatives!!!

All your music homebase are belong to us.
I know... hehe, isn't that funny?
Flipper, why in the world do you not have an avatar yet? WHat are you doing? Go get one!

[Ryokan]

flipper, I had no idea you were a nerd too.:cir: :love:

[Rubia Warren]

Ryokan,
where the heck is your avatar??? Am I gonna have to make you guys get one, or what??

[Ryokan]

I have the computer using skillz of blind drunken baby lemur. I can't seem to find a decent pic that is small enough. When I do, (which may be a while because I am also lazy:wink: ) I may put up one.:tongue:

[yxboom]

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[Rubia Warren]

WHassamatta... what's got you so hot under the collar?

[Ryokan]

Be happy La Rubia, when you read my threads you can look at the lovely face of Spike Spiegel, from Cowboy Bebop:teeth:

[Rubia Warren]

Alright, Ryokan! I am diggin' the 'fro, baby!

[yxboom]

There is a guy in the picture I just saw the barrel of a gun :hrm:

[Rubia Warren]

Guns and 'fros- the perfect combination.:cheers:

[Alden]

:rofl: That's funny.
Although, I must say that I'm disappointed that no one has complimented me on my "acid-trip Calvin" avatar! ( I made it myself:tongue:)

[Em7add11]

I would like to say that I never liked either Kravitz or Mellencamp, so this is basically just them staying true to form as far as I'm concerned. :hrm:

[Eyeheart Pumpkin]

Today @ 05:11 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=46398#post46398)
Em7add11:

I would like to say that I never liked either Kravitz or Mellencamp, so this is basically just them staying true to form as far as I'm concerned. :hrm:
I've never liked either of them, but I do respect Mellencamp. It doesn't mean anything to me that Lenny Kravitz would write an anti-war song -- he's not very sincere in his music. Mellencamp, on the other hand, has always sung about what he believed in, and if he believes against the war, then he just went up a few notches on the respectability ladder. If Toby Keith is pro-war, then he just went down a few notches. At any rate, I respect anyone who comes out as anti-war, especially with all the peer pressure the pro-war side is putting on people to "toe the popular line." (How was that for alliteration?)

[Pilgrim]

You still have to love em! Come, one of the greatest things baout this country is the right to dissent.

I mean, let's let people have their say and be thankful they live in a place the can say it.

[Eyeheart Pumpkin]

Today @ 07:37 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=46479#post46479)
Pilgrim:

You still have to love em! Come, one of the greatest things baout this country is the right to dissent.
Judging by the tone of some of the war supporters on here (and especially over on TOL), it seems there are some who would prefer to see that right taken away.

[Em7add11]

"The right to dissent" is a pretty bare concept though. That's like saying you have the right to eat food. I'm still free to hate carrots and love ranch dressing on everything. I can love the right to dissent without having to consider every dissenting opinion as something worth saying.

[Socrates]

Eireann:
At any rate, I respect anyone who comes out as anti-war, especially with all the peer pressure the pro-war side is putting on people to "toe the popular line." (How was that for alliteration?)That works both ways. There is also pressure to toe the leftist line in such bastions of leftism as Hollywood, and if you don't you're dismissed as a warmonger.

[Eyeheart Pumpkin]

Today @ 08:27 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=46535#post46535)
Socrates:

Eireann:
At any rate, I respect anyone who comes out as anti-war, especially with all the peer pressure the pro-war side is putting on people to &quot;toe the popular line.&quot; (How was that for alliteration?)That works both ways. There is also pressure to toe the leftist line in such bastions of leftism as Hollywood, and if you don't you're dismissed as a warmonger.
I know it goes both ways, but in the US at least, the pro-war camp is more populous than the anti-war camp, and thus provides more peer pressure.

[flipper]

LaRubia:

Flipper, why in the world do you not have an avatar yet? WHat are you doing? Go get one!

*evil grin* If you're not careful, I'll pick something like THIS!

[flipper]

Ryokan:

Yup, pretty geeky alright. But I came to geekdom later in life, and I have struggled to maintain some vestigial social skills. I had the dubious honor of winning a small place in All Your Base history. That, I like to think, will be my contribution to global civilization, and my legacy to the generations that will come after me.

[Ryokan]

Quite a legacy Flipper. And better late than never, as far as your conversion goes.:brow:
You should use that as your avatar. After Jefferson at TOL, nothing is to shocking, I think:eww:

[Pilgrim]

Yesterday @ 09:27 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=46535#post46535)
Socrates:

Eireann:
At any rate, I respect anyone who comes out as anti-war, especially with all the peer pressure the pro-war side is putting on people to &quot;toe the popular line.&quot; (How was that for alliteration?)That works both ways. There is also pressure to toe the leftist line in such bastions of leftism as Hollywood, and if you don't you're dismissed as a warmonger.


I don't know about that, ol'e Michael Moore got more boos than cheers at his little melodrama on the Oscar stage the other night. And then Steve Martin said the funniest thing of the night after Mike had left the stage: "Things are just so sweet back stage right now, all the teamsters are helping Michael Moore into the trunk of his limo!"

Pilgrim

[QED]

I can love the right to dissent without having to consider every dissenting opinion as something worth saying.

If you have a strong conviction, and it is a dissenting one, it is worth expressing.

The Jesse Jacksons of this world have given dissention a bad name. This isn't becaus a dissenting opinion isn't worth hearing, but because an insincere, politically motivated dissenting opinion isn't worth expressing.

This war has fulminated dissent. Everyone was behind GWB in Afghanistan. Few people expressed disapproval of the first Gulf War (at the time). My own thoughts and feelings make me oppose this war - the first time I have opposed a war. This dates back to GWB's hints at the state of the union address. It isn't something I picked up in the last month from the media. You have every right to disagree with me, and I can respect that. But dissent is worth hearing - if only as a matter of checks and balances.

Now - who can tell me the name of the anti-war song from Mellencamp?

[wienerdog]

Actually, the current war is more "popular" among the American people than the Gulf War was.

I would also like to point out that some of those who are against the war are expressing their opinions by engaging in illegal activity. They tried to shut down my city last week, and will probably try to do so again. I don't see the pro-war groups doing this. Of course I realize that this is a minority, and they're not representative of the actual peace protestors (how could they be when they don't want peace?), but if pressure is being applied by a group, it seems to be coming more from the anti-war side than the pro-war side.