Dispensational

[themuzicman]

I have reached a conclusion regarding dispensational theology.

After a careful reading of the scriptures, I have found that each of us has our own dispensation.

Since every person who has ever lived or will live is a unique individual based upon genetics and evironment, it only makes sense that each of us have our own dispensation of the Spirit, and our own requirements for salvation, which the Spirit communicates to each of us individually. For some, it may be works, others faith, and for others, accomplishing God's plan for your life. I have a friend whose salvation was attained by eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich every day for a month.

Yes, Christ's death makes salvation available to all of us, but because of our varied personalities and cultural settings, we all must find our own requirements to obtaining access to the grace provided by the cross.

I am sure that through prayer and meditation that each of you will find your own requirements, and fulfill them. (Although one former friend declined when he found that his requirements included jello, a dozen rutabega, two ducks, four sheep, and a kilt. It wasn't pretty.)

:wink: :egad:

[Xmansmommy]

:shifty:

[Assistant Junior Deputy Janitor Analogman]

Please take your meds, MM.

[Amazing Rando]

Don't make me give you a "dispensation" of smackdown! :poke:

[themuzicman]

Are you proposing to lay hands on me suddenly? :doh:

[Xmansmommy]

:lol:

[Amazing Rando]

Are you proposing to lay hands on me suddenly? :doh:

No. The laying on of hands is part of the dispensation of the molesters.

[dizzle]

I have found my way through trouncing dispensationalists.

[Amazing Rando]

I have found my way through trouncing dispensationalists.

Me too! My victims have mostly been of the "Mid-Acts" variety however.

[themuzicman]

Mine come from all forms of dispensationalism.

[Amazing Rando]

Mine come from all forms of dispensationalism.

I love how they try to base their entire system on the King Jimmy version of one verse: 2 Timothy 2:15: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

They take this phrase "rightly dividing" and use it to justify formulating these odd-ball dispensations. :lolo:

[dizzle]

Dang, AR is bringing the smack!

[Amazing Rando]

Dang, AR is bringing the smack!

:teeth: Over the last few weeks, I've been doing some research into Mid-Acts dispy-ism. It's one of the few subjects that I feel confident enough to participate in a formal debate in.

[truthman]

I love how they try to base their entire system on the King Jimmy version of one verse: 2 Timothy 2:15: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

They take this phrase "rightly dividing" and use it to justify formulating these odd-ball dispensations. :lolo:First of all, the biggest mid-Acts Dispensational group, the Berean Bible Society (http://www.bereanbiblesociety.org) is not KJV only like most people think. I'm not a KJV'er, neither is RightIdea, Acts9_12out, or yxboom. So, unless you're talking about someone outside this site, then I don't know who you're talking about.

Secondly, I do not use the Timothy verse as defense for my position, in fact, I don't think I've ever even used it in a debate as I don't consider it very strong.

Strong evidences for my position are Paul's use of the word 'mystery', his use of the term 'my gospel', and also Ephesians 3:9 "making all men see what is the dispensation of they mystery".

truthman

[dizzle]

First of all, the biggest mid-Acts Dispensational group, the Berean Bible Society (http://www.bereanbiblesociety.org) is not KJV only like most people think. I'm not a KJV'er, neither is RightIdea, Acts9_12out, or yxboom. So, unless you're talking about someone outside this site, then I don't know who you're talking about.

The only one I can think of is Workman but he is Acts28 not midActs.


Secondly, I do not use the Timothy verse as defense for my position, in fact, I don't think I've ever even used it in a debate as I don't consider it very strong.

Mid-acters though do use it at times. Good for you for not using it, it is very weak.

[Amazing Rando]

First of all, the biggest mid-Acts Dispensational group, the Berean Bible Society (http://www.bereanbiblesociety.org) is not KJV only like most people think. I'm not a KJV'er, neither is RightIdea, Acts9_12out, or yxboom. So, unless you're talking about someone outside this site, then I don't know who you're talking about.

No, I wasn't talking about anyone on this site. I know RightIdea distances himself from KJO's. The only KJO that I can think of that frequents this site is Ed Jones. but I haven't seen him in a while.

Here's the site of a KJO Mid-Acts-er that has links to a whole host of people that agree with him! :ahem: Good to know he's not in your camp though.

King James Bible, Dispensationally (http://www.geocities.com/kjvdispensational/)

Secondly, I do not use the Timothy verse as defense for my position, in fact, I don't think I've ever even used it in a debate as I don't consider it very strong.

Very good idea, Truthman! However, the patriarch of Mid-Acts dispensationalism (C.R. Stam) did use 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) to justify "rightly dividing" the Bible. See here (http://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/articles/1046982546.html). The "Berean Bible Society" he founded does as well.

Strong evidences for my position are Paul's use of the word 'mystery', his use of the term 'my gospel', and also Ephesians 3:9 "making all men see what is the dispensation of they mystery".

truthman

Agreed- they're much better than the Timothy passages, but I still think they're better explained in other contexts than the Mid-Acts soteriology.

[Daywalker]

I am KJV Only in the way that the translators were. I would allow for VARIANT READINGS, but I would not take the NiV seriously, for instance.

Young's Literal Translation, one of the few translations based upon the superior text, is a close second for me.

As far as 2 Tim.2:15 goes, the verse in the Greek means to CUT STRAIGHT, thus CUT STRAIGHT the word of truth. THAT implies a division.

[Daywalker]

FOR THE RECORD: It is the MidActs camp that has popularized dispensational salvation, but before you shed a tear, remember this...
All they do is look at other ages through the perspective of an Arminian, and stick OSAS for this age alone.

Also, they tend to be EXCLUSIVISTS...well, if you are an EXclusivist you automatically believe in dispensational salvation. You believe that there is a different content of faith that a man must know in order to be saved. They did not know about the death, burial, resurrection, and diety of the Son of God in the OT. If you say that they MUST know that today..."TADAA!!-You believe in dispensational salvation-no matter what other name you choose to call it".