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mrsnacks
May 8th 2004, 12:37 AM
I remember my days as a futurist very well. Lindsey , Van Impe, and other futurists were saying that the anti- christ will come out of the EEC. he will be the leader of the 10 nation confederacy out of Europe. Plus keep in my -- the time is near and Christ's coming is just around the corner. This was around 1983 I remember hearing this many times.
At last count ,I heard that the union consisted of close to 25 nations. So what 's the story ??? Is the rapture just around the corner ? How big is this corner ??? :eek:
mrsnacks
May 8th 2004, 01:03 AM
Yes ! Thanks. I will correct it. It's been a long day.
John Reece
May 8th 2004, 08:00 AM
I remember my days as a futurist very well. Lindsey , Van Impe, and other futurists were saying that the anti- christ will come out of the EEC. he will be the leader of the 10 nation confederacy out of Europe. Plus keep in my -- the time is near and Christ's coming is just around the corner. This was around 1983 I remember hearing this many times.
At last count ,I heard that the union consisted of close to 25 nations. So what 's the story ??? Is the rapture just around the corner ? How big is this corner ??? :eek:
Well do I remember that.
I have a dear friend (we were in college together, and we both went to Duke for graduate studies - I to the Divinity School, and he to get a PhD and return to our college alma mater as a professor) who was a premillennialist who used to make much of the 10-nation EEC. When the list of nations in the EEC went beyond 10, I sent him a letter asking him what he made of that fact. He just ignored my question.
Now it's Arab nations . . . :smile:
Chief of Staff Lizard
May 8th 2004, 10:48 AM
Well do I remember that.
I have a dear friend (we were in college together, and we both went to Duke for graduate studies - I to the Divinity School, and he to get a PhD and return to our college alma mater as a professor) who was a premillennialist who used to make much of the 10-nation EEC. When the list of nations in the EEC went beyond 10, I sent him a letter asking him what he made of that fact. He just ignored my question.
Now it's Arab nations . . . :smile:
Next it will be Asian nations, followed my moon colonies, followed by planets, follwed by......
Ted
May 8th 2004, 05:43 PM
This is what happens when prophecy is ignored for one’s pet interpretation. Daniel 2 explicitly says that there will not be a unified anything that covers the world. Once Rome broke up, world domination by a single power was permanent past history.
Dispensationalists try to suck the post-millennial 10 kings from Revelation 7 into this area to create their Antichrist nightmare. They ought to try to avoid eating Welsh Rarebit so late in the evening.
Ted
NeilUnreal
May 8th 2004, 10:10 PM
When the EEC reached twelve, I remember one popular prognosticator (whom, I can't recall) predicting that two nations would have to quit...
-Neil
Monkman
June 18th 2004, 03:51 PM
When the EEC reached twelve, I remember one popular prognosticator (whom, I can't recall) predicting that two nations would have to quit...
-Neil
Okay, I just couldn't resist reacting having an bachelor's degree in European Studies from the University of Amsterdam...
The one reason one fundamentalist christian political party in the Netherlands opposes the European Union is that Hal Lindsey says european unification will lead to the coming of the Antichrist... how totally out of their minds they are... sorry, but this is such utter crap...
I defy you all: according to me, the United States of America are far closer to giving birth to the 'Antichrist'... its president was elected through a voting scam, it wants to rule the world, it demonizes those nations and religions that don't go along with the vision of its current administration...
Perhaps Hal Lindsey thought God to be an american? Lol, just imagine Jesus as an american isolationist, hating arabs and europeans (if you ask me, the real Jesus looked more like an actual arab than anything else.. but hey, let's not spoil the eschatological fun...).
To be quite frank, this kind of reasoning gives ample proof that american fundamentalist christianity has to go long way before being academically sound...
Greetings from Monkman
mrsnacks
June 18th 2004, 05:46 PM
I was out of town in a hotel room and turned on the TV. It was TBN ! I took a minute to watch and they were taking donations to give Jews the funds to move and relocate to Israel. Pat Boone was on along with the rest of the Stooges. Just imagine - appealing to the church to send money so Jews from all over can move back to Israel so they can be eventually slaughtered during the Great Tribulation makes as much sense as a custard sock or a football bat.
Ted
June 22nd 2004, 03:28 PM
It would be funny to watch all the Dispy nonsense about the ten nations if they weren't so serious. But they need to wake up to the fact that the gospel isn't about what happens in newspapers. It's about what happens in your heart.
ratioann
June 22nd 2004, 04:11 PM
welsh rabbit? uh..mmmm..
It would be funny to watch all the Dispy nonsense about the ten nations if they weren't so serious. But they need to wake up to the fact that the gospel isn't about what happens in newspapers. It's about what happens in your heart.
I agree some of us seem to be more cocerned with the signs of prophecy being fulfilled than the gospel. I like to think it's because we know what the fulfillment of those signs means.. But there is a good chance that some people just enjoy feeling clever, thinking 'I found this first' or 'I was smart enough to think of this'. I far as I can tell I am a dispy/futurist, but I just don't care much anymore. I'm not sure we'll be even be here when the end events begin because of the rapture.
Ted
June 23rd 2004, 02:42 PM
welsh rabbit? uh..mmmm..
I agree some of us seem to be more cocerned with the signs of prophecy being fulfilled than the gospel. ...But there is a good chance that some people just enjoy feeling clever, thinking 'I found this first' or 'I was smart enough to think of this'.
Unfortunately, some feel that their cleverness is so great that it is TRUTH. Somehow they think that their TRUTH is more important than the gospel.
kofh2u
June 26th 2004, 09:11 PM
Okay, I just couldn't resist reacting having an bachelor's degree in European Studies from the University of Amsterdam...
The one reason one fundamentalist christian political party in the Netherlands opposes the European Union is that Hal Lindsey says european unification will lead to the coming of the Antichrist... how totally out of their minds they are... sorry, but this is such utter crap...
I defy you all: according to me, the United States of America are far closer to giving birth to the 'Antichrist'... its president was elected through a voting scam, it wants to rule the world, it demonizes those nations and religions that don't go along with the vision of its current administration...
Perhaps Hal Lindsey thought God to be an american? Lol, just imagine Jesus as an american isolationist, hating arabs and europeans (if you ask me, the real Jesus looked more like an actual arab than anything else.. but hey, let's not spoil the eschatological fun...).
To be quite frank, this kind of reasoning gives ample proof that american fundamentalist christianity has to go long way before being academically sound...
Greetings from Monkman
Nay.
No way.
The ten horns of power on the s evenheaded beast was way misinterpreted, and America,...
Your a history guy... set these people straight. The whole thing is almost over. Wake up and smell the roses.
Isa. 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud (from the Americas), and as the doves of peace to their (cathedral) windows?
Isa. 60:9 Surely the isles (of the New World) shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish, (first from North America), to bring thy sons (of Abraham) from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, (Christ), because he hath glorified thee (in Christianity).
Isa. 60:10 And the sons of strangers (from the Americas) shall build up thy walls, and their kings (of the Christian denominations) shall minister peace unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee (in Holocaust), but in my favour have I had mercy on thee (and brought thee into the Promised Land).
Isa. 60:11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the (Christian) Gentiles, and that their kings (of the Christian denominations) may be brought (to the Holy Lands).
Isa 60:12 For the nation or (denominational church of the Christian) kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
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