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Socrates
June 10th 2004, 12:09 AM
AiG has released Refuting Compromise -- see introductory chapter (http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/rc/intro.asp).

RtB has produced A Matter of Days, and the introductory chapter is also online. But now the RTB demands registration before accessing its articles, so you'll have to make do with AiG's point-by-point rebuttal (http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0601critique.asp).

apostate
June 10th 2004, 12:47 AM
I think the most amusing part of the whole creationism debate is to watch creationists sling mud at each other.

Please read the forum guidelines before posting. Thank you.

Abigail
June 10th 2004, 12:53 AM
Are you even supposed to be posting in cosmogony?

apostate
June 10th 2004, 12:58 AM
who knows?

Abigail
June 10th 2004, 01:03 AM
Try reading the guidelines and then you'll know :ahem:

apostate
June 10th 2004, 01:12 AM
but where's the fun in that?

Abigail
June 10th 2004, 01:47 AM
but where's the fun in that?
:haha:(apostate)

A Beautiful Truth
June 10th 2004, 09:51 AM
But now the RTB demands registration before accessing its articles, so you'll have to make do with AiG's point-by-point rebuttal (http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0601critique.asp).

Why would having to register stop one from getting both sides of the story?

With AiG, only one side is presented. But that is the way AiG likes to work, right?

dizzle
June 10th 2004, 09:55 AM
Charleen, that dig was unnecessary.

Anyways though

But now the RTB demands registration before accessing its articles,

Then register. Or maybe Charleen can get permission from RTB for us to reproduce the chapter here so that our members can see it without registering. We could maybe have a thread in which special permission is given to post both items in thier entirely here.

That would be nice.

A Beautiful Truth
June 10th 2004, 11:05 AM
See if this works

http://www.reasons.org/resources/products/a_matter_of_days/index.shtml?main

I am leaving on a trip and can try to contact RTB about it when I get back.

Thanks

Charleen

Socrates
June 10th 2004, 09:03 PM
Why would having to register stop one from getting both sides of the story?

With AiG, only one side is presented. But that is the way AiG likes to work, right?
Nope, you got both sides of the story -- AiG's response incorporates RTB's book intro. RTB is the only one with only one side presented. Charleen's lovely double standards are at work again :bonk:

learning
June 13th 2004, 07:54 AM
Here's a link to the homeschool sonlight's list of books, which have the two sides of the story of YEC, OEC, you can read the blurb about the books to see which is which.
I should say one book doesn't have the two sides, but they list books with different sides.
www.sonlight.com/books-cstudies-evolution.html

Tickle Me Goody
June 13th 2004, 05:05 PM
Here's a link to the homeschool sonlight's list of books, which have the two sides of the story of YEC, OEC, you can read the blurb about the books to see which is which.
I should say one book doesn't have the two sides, but they list books with different sides.
www.sonlight.com/books-cstudies-evolution.html (http://www.sonlight.com/books-cstudies-evolution.html)
Well I really caught it for listing some sites on another thread but it looks like it may be O.K. here (given that learning did it). For seeing all sides of a scientific issue, I would suggest:
http://www.asa3.org/


gg

A Beautiful Truth
June 14th 2004, 01:36 AM
Nope, you got both sides of the story -- AiG's response incorporates RTB's book intro. RTB is the only one with only one side presented. Charleen's lovely double standards are at work again :bonk:

I am beginning to wonder if even responding to you somehow looks bad upon my intelligence.

So AiG's response incorporates RTB's book intro. Is that sort of like the YEC book Creation and Time (written purposefuly with the exact title of Dr. Ross's book)incorporating parts of Dr. Ross's Creation and Time to give an unbiased review?

Socrates
June 14th 2004, 03:16 AM
I am beginning to wonder if even responding to you somehow looks bad upon my intelligence.
:haha: What intelligence: :huh:

So AiG's response incorporates RTB's book intro. Is that sort of like the YEC book Creation and Time (written purposefuly with the exact title of Dr. Ross's book)incorporating parts of Dr. Ross's Creation and Time to give an unbiased review?
:cry: Stop whinging. :rant: When was the last time RTB gave AiG's viewpoint an unbiased review.

Socrates
June 14th 2004, 03:18 AM
Here's a link to the homeschool sonlight's list of books, which have the two sides of the story of YEC, OEC, you can read the blurb about the books to see which is which.
I should say one book doesn't have the two sides, but they list books with different sides.
www.sonlight.com/books-cstudies-evolution.html
It would be a good "learning" tool to study AiG's very detailed response to Sonlight's pro-old-earth view at www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0322holzmann.asp

Socrates
June 14th 2004, 03:20 AM
Then register.
Why should I? I'm delighted that RTB has made it harder for people to extract the misleading compromise from the site :bonk:

In any case, the AiG response has clearly differentiated RTB's book from their comments.

A Beautiful Truth
June 14th 2004, 09:15 AM
:haha: What intelligence: :huh:


:cry: Stop whinging. :rant: When was the last time RTB gave AiG's viewpoint an unbiased review.

Thing is, you presented AiG's presentation as if it were unbiased. My point remaims.

You are officially back on my ignore list for another week because of your continued insults. I choose not to discuss in such an immature manner.

~Charleen

Socrates
June 14th 2004, 11:58 PM
Thing is, you presented AiG's presentation as if it were unbiased.
Not possible. AiG and I explicitly deny that there is such a thing as an unbiased presentation.

Sinai
June 15th 2004, 06:23 PM
AiG has released Refuting Compromise -- see introductory chapter (http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/rc/intro.asp).

RtB has produced A Matter of Days, and the introductory chapter is also online. But now the RTB demands registration before accessing its articles, so you'll have to make do with AiG's point-by-point rebuttal (http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0601critique.asp).

Thanks for posting this information.

Sinai
June 15th 2004, 06:28 PM
Not possible. AiG and I explicitly deny that there is such a thing as an unbiased presentation.
Very good point, Doc. AiG, RTB, TO and other similar websites all tend to present data and discussion from each site's own particular bias.