Snotty Atheists on FTill's Errancy

[jpholding]

Here's a lovely quote from a certain member of FTill's Errancy list with a very high opinion of herself:

I think the majority of the participants on TheologyWeb are adolescents and young adults who simply follow the lead of Dee Dee Warren and [Holding], both of whom are nothing if not puerile.

Comments? :rofl: Slaves! Come forth and tell these constipated owls of your servitude!

[$cirisme]

I would say somethin, but I am too busy following Holding and Warren to think for myself. :fight:

[Dee Dee Warren]

Did I give you permission to post here?? :whip:

[$cirisme]

Ooops, sorry. :doh:

Oops, did it again. :argh:

[The Laughing Man]

Thank you, ma'am! May I have another?

[AVmetro]

I think the majority of the participants on TheologyWeb are adolescents and young adults who simply follow the lead of Dee Dee Warren and [Holding], both of whom are nothing if not puerile.

It simply gets ridiculous how inventive some will get in order to launch an ad hominem attack. You can almost see them choking on their cheetos when they get so angry and frustrated that they must resort to the above.

[Rusty T]

Isn't it funny how much time JP Holding must spend perusing the archives of ii_errancy?

[stevencarrwork]

Today @ 06:15 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63102#post63102)
tizzidale:

Isn't it funny how much time JP Holding must spend perusing the archives of ii_errancy?

Well, spl_cadet is 17 , which counts as adolescent in my book. Maximillian was 14, aslo adolescent. Did he ever reply to Kreuger's opening statement
http://www.tektonics.org/krumax.html

I wonder why Errancy members are on theology web , yet very few ( I believe none, could be wrong) theology web members are over at errancy.

[AVmetro]

I wonder why Errancy members are on theology web , yet very few [...] theology web members are over at errancy.

What's your point? Are you implying that we're "too scared" to go register at 'errancy? Some people do not stretch their presence over multiple boards. And with all the atheists here, what would be the point?

[Rusty T]

I wonder why Errancy members are on theology web , yet very few ( I believe none, could be wrong) theology web members are over at errancy.

Oooh ooh, let me try! "They are here b/c they realize this is a superior format." or "They are here b/c they are following the order of Till." or "They couldn't get any inerrantists on their list so they had to come here." I'm sure I won't be surprised by the answers given to this one.

[jpholding]

Isn't it funny how much time JP Holding must spend perusing the archives of ii_errancy?

It takes me all of 2 to 8 minutes a day, Rusty. I spend more time than that making my wife's hardboiled eggs every morning. :duh:

And I spend 3/4 of that 2-8 minutes waiting for the pages to load. :zzz:

I did find it amazing how much time was spent there discussing my missing the word "vision", though. :lol:

And yes, I really and objectively do hate the format.

[Faramir]

Today @ 12:29 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63073#post63073)
jpholding:

Here's a lovely quote from a certain member of FTill's Errancy list with a very high opinion of herself:

I think the majority of the participants on TheologyWeb are adolescents and young adults who simply follow the lead of Dee Dee Warren and [Holding], both of whom are nothing if not puerile.

Comments? :rofl: Slaves! Come forth and tell these constipated owls of your servitude!


:bow: ==> JP

:bow: ==> DD

I'm not an adolescent, but my oldest child is. Does that count?

[jpholding]

Well, spl_cadet is 17 , which counts as adolescent in my book. Maximillian was 14, aslo adolescent.

Wow. Two people mark out the whole. So if YOU are a lying jerk, and Till is a lying jerk, that means -- :rofl: Typical Stevie logic.

Did he ever reply to Kreuger's opening statement
http://www.tektonics.org/krumax.html

Not yet. He has personal matters to attend to.

I wonder why Errancy members are on theology web , yet very few ( I believe none, could be wrong) theology web members are over at errancy.

If you don't have actual stats, don't speculate. Your boss says PUT THAT HAMBURGER DOWN!

(I will speculate this much: FTill just isn't as important as he thinks he is. :rofl: )

[Sheepdog]

what? think for myself? i'm scared to :ahem:

seems interesting to me how Till will unprovokingly ad hominem people here (i.e. calling spl_cadet "stupid"), then when he gets roasted, he has to whine and gripe and basically insult all of us as a whole.

can you see around that plank, dude?

[Faramir]

er, ah JP I I I mean Mr. Holding. I know you said I was too stupid to ever find a link on my own, but I found the link to mean ole Mr. Till's site, and even to the post you were talking about.

It is right here:

http://www.topica.com/lists/ii_errancy/read/message.html?mid=806105825&sort=d&start=19285

[Faramir]

Today @ 03:10 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63207#post63207)
Faramir:

er, ah JP I I I mean Mr. Holding. I know you said I was too stupid to ever find a link on my own, but I found the link to mean ole Mr. Till's site, and even to the post you were talking about.

It is right here:

http://www.topica.com/lists/ii_errancy/read/message.html?mid=806105825&sort=d&start=19285

Does this mean that those mean ole skeptics will stop giving you such a hard time about providing links?

[Piebald]

I thought the conspiracy theories for why Dee Dee changed her avatar were funnier.

:brow:

[WinAce]

Well, I used to be an adolescent, does that count? :D

I don't post on Errancy because the board software sucks there in comparison to VBB.

[Jason Gastrich]

Haha. I just saw the title of this thread and thought it was funny.

When I debated Doug Krueger, part of a deal we made was for me to post in II_Errancy (the other part was that he would post on the JCSM Forum - http://forum.jcsm.org). I'm glad I kept my end of the deal, but I can't say I enjoyed my time at II_Errancy.

JG

[spl_cadet]

Being the annoying person that I am...


I think the majority of the participants on TheologyWeb are adolescents and young adults

There's only three here that I know of. Max, (14), tiedyekitty, and myself (both 17). Hardly a majority and I'm the only one of the three that regularly posts in the debates and discussions (haven't seen Max posting and tiedyekitty doesn't think she knows enough).



who simply follow the lead of Dee Dee Warren and [Holding],

I'm a devout Catholic and think preterism is a bunch of junk. Need I say more?



both of whom are nothing if not puerile.

And a prime example of intellectual snobbery in the use of words that no one uses in real life and very few people even learn (I've read literally thousands of books and I have never seen that word before).

[$cirisme]

Today @ 02:56 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63332#post63332)
WinAce:

Well, I used to be an adolescent, does that count? :D

I don't post on Errancy because the board software sucks there in comparison to VBB.

Especially this vB. :brow:

BTW, what is the URl to Errancy's forum?

Never been there.

[Jason Gastrich]

http://www.topica.com/lists/ii_errancy/read

:argh:

[$cirisme]

Oh, it's an email list. :hrm:

[jpholding]

Good boy, Faramir. You may have one more minute free from your chains tonight. :tongue:

[jpholding]

Gee WinAce. We AGREE on something. :uhoh:

[Dee Dee Warren]

VBulletin rocks!!

[WinAce]

I should add a disclaimer to my posts - something like "any similarities between this and J.P. Holding's viewpoints are entirely coincidental". :teeth:

[AVmetro]

Today @ 12:55 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63487#post63487)
Dee Dee Warren:

VBulletin rocks!!

Is that my hint to make another Twisted Sister parody? :brow:



Disclaimer: I do NOT (emphasis on "not") listen to Twisted Sister.

[Faramir]

Yesterday @ 07:43 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63466#post63466)
jpholding:

Good boy, Faramir. You may have one more minute free from your chains tonight. :tongue:


:bow:

Thanks, masssster. Can we haves some fisheses, my precious.

[Sauron]

Yesterday @ 09:52 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63087#post63087)
AVmetro:



It simply gets ridiculous how inventive some will get in order to launch an ad hominem attack. You can almost see them choking on their cheetos when they get so angry and frustrated that they must resort to the above.


First, J. Pretentious Holding has the chutzpah to point out someone else being snotty.

Then one of the fundibots on TWeb says the above and yet passes blindly over JayPee Handwave and his torrent of ad hominems.

And they wonder why christianity suffers from an image of hypocrisy.....
:rofl:

[Sher]

Isn't there some sort of copyright on someone's posts, BTW? I noticed at a quick glance that replies here are being copied over there. :huh: Not to miss all the TWeb people do this and TWeb people do that ... :rofl:

Maybe no one from here wants to post over there because of their whining and lack of original thought? :rofl:

~SherBear, adolecent at heart ... posting with all proper and due respect to JPH and DDW :bow:




(:lol:)

[papabryant]

Well, while I may be the new guy on the block here, I can tell you why I don't go to Errancy - its all about ratios. The ratio of @$*^!% atheists to genuine skeptics are too high.

(@$*^!% atheists are defined as those who either base their arguements against Christianity on their own emotional issues and are only interested in bashing those who believe to make themselves feel good, or those who simply adopt a hostile position because they like making trouble. Neither do their homework and yet insist they win arguements when they would be laughed out of a college course for such bad scholarship.)

It's the same reason I stopped going to Beliefnet; Errancy and Beliefnet both attract the worst of skepticism, and it makes those few encounters between honest and genuine skeptics and myself unpleasant for their intrusions.

I did find one site that only had one such @$*^!% atheist, bane of my existance that she became. (She said I was abusing children by teaching Sunday School. Not like the molestors that infiltrated the Catholic Priesthood, but by opening a Bible and teaching them the stories within. THAT qualified as abuse.:eww: )The site is closing down though.

So far, despite a couple of real jerks who just want to cause trouble and insist that their personal pronouncements are correct in the face of people who find scholars whose research backs up their positions, my brief time here has been enjoyable. I cannot say my time on Errancy was the same.

Peace, Tom

[Jason Gastrich]

Tom,

I've had similar experiences as you in the atheist forums and mail lists. In fact, after getting severely abused in the "Atheist Network" forums, I created my own. I wanted a place where I could moderate and make sure everybody was treated respectfully.

We have had over 10,000 posts in less than a year. Our "Debate" section is the most popular with over 8,000 posts. Unfortunately, I've had to ban a few people for inappropriate behavior. There are still quite a few people and about 150 members that come and post, though.

You and whoever else is welcome to visit. Link: http://forum.jcsm.org

God bless,
Jason G

:thumb:

[Rusty T]

Just wondering if you ever reconsidered how why you banned Till in the first place. After you called him intellectually dishonest, he then called YOU (God forbid) intellectually dishonest on your forum. BAMO! He's gone! He's out! He's such a $&!@#.

Also, any "gay urges" lately?

tizzi

[Jason Gastrich]

"tizzidale",

The situation with Till is none of your business. However, since you keep misrepresenting what happened, I needed to respond and simply say that you don't know the entire story about Till's abuses, his one week suspension from the JCSM Forum and his harrassment and further abuses that led to his eventual banishment.

I don't wish to discuss these things with you, though.

Thanks,
Jason

[Sauron]

Today @ 10:49 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=64804#post64804)
Jason G:

Tom,

I've had similar experiences as you in the atheist forums and mail lists. In fact, after getting severely abused in the "Atheist Network" forums, I created my own. I wanted a place where I could moderate and make sure everybody was treated respectfully.

We have had over 10,000 posts in less than a year. Our "Debate" section is the most popular with over 8,000 posts. Unfortunately, I've had to ban a few people for inappropriate behavior. There are still quite a few people and about 150 members that come and post, though.

You and whoever else is welcome to visit. Link: http://forum.jcsm.org

God bless,
Jason G

:thumb:


Oh, my gawd. You're the one they told me about - you're the fraud who tried to slander Till's reputation, by sending bogus email supposedly from him?

I have no idea if Till is gay or not - can't see that it matters, in any event. What counts more is the fact that you saw fit to impersonate him and try to discredit the man's arguments, by tossing something you thought was scandalous into the mix. As opposed to, say , addressing his arguments head-on.

What I find amazing is that the moderators around here continue to tolerate you. But the mods around here appear to have a flexible standard of conduct, so perhaps that's the key....
:huh:

[Jason Gastrich]

Am I an atheist magnet or what?! Haha.

Fraud? Well, you can see thousands of hours of legit research in my book and on my web sites (http://www.jcsm.org). I guess you should see those things and then make a judgment about me. You can't always believe everything you hear.

I'm not very interested in gossping about others, though. In fact, I'd like to keep my atheist debates on my forum and converse with Christians in here.

God bless,
Jason

:thumb:

[Rusty T]

Jason dodges "gay urges". Way to go, Jason!

[jpholding]

Isn't it funny how Saurhead/Serpent X avoids me in threads where REAL issues are being discussed? :rofl:

So how about kaiser_roll's threat to me? Eaten your words yet? Mustard?

And they wonder why christianity suffers from an image of hypocrisy.....

Maybe they should wonder why Maurons have problems with basic definitions. Hypocrisy means criticizing people for doing what you do. People here who agreed with me would only be hypocrites IF they were SNOTTY also. Riposte and challenge is NOT being "snotty". HELLO? :rofl: :dufus:

Definitions for "snotty" from dictionary.com"

1. Dirtied with nasal mucus. (Hey, they mentioned Saurhead!) :rofl:
2. Slang. Impertinent; arrogant. (Did you see "using ad hominem" in there? I didn't. Maybe Saurhead is on the same drugs he was when he says he saw me change articles! Of course on CAN be snotty and use ad hom or riposte, but the act is NOT exclusive to snottiness. Case closed. Saurhead jumped in, as usual, with his foot already in his mouth.)

Go back and hide on iidb.org. You're as useful as a rhino in a dance recital here. :eww:

[Faramir]

Yesterday @ 02:08 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=64833#post64833)
Sauron:

Oh, my gawd. You're the one they told me about - you're the fraud who tried to slander Till's reputation, by sending bogus email supposedly from him?

I have no idea if Till is gay or not - can't see that it matters, in any event. What counts more is the fact that you saw fit to impersonate him and try to discredit the man's arguments, by tossing something you thought was scandalous into the mix. As opposed to, say , addressing his arguments head-on.

What I find amazing is that the moderators around here continue to tolerate you. But the mods around here appear to have a flexible standard of conduct, so perhaps that's the key....
:huh:

Well Sauron, if you can give an example of Jason G violating the rules of this forum on [/b]this forum[/b] please let me know. As a moderator, I would be most interested.

And for the record, if Jason G did send an e-mail pretending to be Mr. Till, (and I have no reason to believe that he did not, becasue, to my knowleged he never denied it) I would say that that was a deplorable act. And as a moderator here I want to go on the record, that I would not tolerate that behavior here.

As far as I know however, tweb administration is not in the habbit of banning people for actions away from tweb.