How long after Creation was the Fall?

[Woman]

How long after Creation did the Fall happen?

[Woman]

Hey Folks,

The Fall is one of the most important events in the Bible. Don't you have an opinion?

Never even wondered?

I don't know if there is any Biblical evidence one way or another.

[Bartholomew]

Today @ 12:02 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63636#post63636)
Woman:

Hey Folks,

The Fall is one of the most important events in the Bible. Don't you have an opinion?

Never even wondered?

I don't know if there is any Biblical evidence one way or another.

I've wondered, but the post doesn't have enough options. What if Adam and Eve were children when they fell? Or what if they fell many, many years after they were created?

Too many unknowns, IMO.

~Matt

[Socrates]

There aren't enough options. But there are clear Biblical limits as I've outlined at www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=56280#post56280 Woman has replied to the thread but no one has addressed my arguments.

[Woman]

I've wondered, but the post doesn't have enough options. What if Adam and Eve were children when they fell? Or what if they fell many, many years after they were created?

Too many unknowns, IMO.

~Matt

Huh?

You mean you believe that Genesis Adam and Eve might have been created as children??

[Vorkosigan]

How long after creation was the fall?

It followed summer, of course.

[Bartholomew]

Today @ 02:56 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=63784#post63784)
Woman:



Huh?

You mean you believe that Genesis Adam and Eve might have been created as children??

I honestly have no idea. I'm just saying that the poll is too limited in it's options.

~Matt

[wienerdog]

To clarify: we're talking about the fall of humankind, right? Satan fell before people did.

[Woman]

weinerdog,

yes, the Fall of Adam and Eve.

My personal interest in people's opinion is that there is a belief that this time was a true paradise on earth, the only time without death, suffering, etc. I just wonder how long it lasted.

[Sher]

choice #1 ... without the timeframe attached.

[DBoone]

This is purely conjectural but I like the idea that God created Adam as a child. It might explain the questions that arose in his heart after seeing the animals all in pairs. It could be that he was reaching puberty when he got lonely, and God performed the first surgical procedure. But I just like the visual of a child getting to name all the animals. But alas, the Bible says that on the 6th day God created Man, male and female He created them.

Hmmm... and so on the 6th day Adam had to name all the animals, watch their breeding habits, get lonely, have surgery, meet his soul mate... those days must've been pretty long.

Either that or God was in the business of producing episodes of "Full House"
:huh:

[Socrates]

DBooneThis is purely conjectural but I like the idea that God created Adam as a child. It might explain the questions that arose in his heart after seeing the animals all in pairs. It could be that he was reaching puberty when he got lonely, and God performed the first surgical procedure. But I just like the visual of a child getting to name all the animals. But alas, the Bible says that on the 6th day God created Man, male and female He created them.And he told them to multiply, implying that they were created capable of this.Hmmm... and so on the 6th day Adam had to name all the animals, watch their breeding habits, get lonely, have surgery, meet his soul mate... those days must've been pretty long.No they could not have been, since Exodus 20:8-11 makes it clear that they were the same length as days of the working week.

The number of animals was very small, since there was only a small subset of all kinds, and kinds are broader than species. See How could Adam have named all the animals in a single day? (http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1112animals.asp) And Adam did not "get" lonely, but God already knew it wasn't good for him to be alone.

[Sher]

"And Adam did not "get" lonely, but God already knew it wasn't good for him to be alone."

I was just going to make this same point ... but ya beat me to it, Soc.

DB ... re-read the wording in Genesis 2:18And the LORD God said, "It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him." Adam didn't come to God saying he was lonely ... God recognized the need that Adam would have for companionship.

[Bill the Cat]

They fell after creation, as to when, the text is deafeningly silent. It does not matter when, but what matters is that it happened.

[Woman]

Soc:

And Adam did not "get" lonely, but God already knew it wasn't good for him to be alone.

Isn't that rather missing the point though? Wasn't the whole purpose of creation for man? And didn't God plan to have man and woman be the parents of all mankind?

There isn't a lot in Genesis about why God created it all. I wish there were.

[DBoone]

I stand corrected. No more conjecturing for me.

Bad Don, bad Don...

:whip:

This is a little off-topic, but do you believe the "gap theory", that there was a span of time between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2?

[Socrates]

Woman:Isn't that rather missing the point though? Wasn't the whole purpose of creation for man? And didn't God plan to have man and woman be the parents of all mankind?Yes, but where was the missed point? God's creative sequence also had didactive purposes.There isn't a lot in Genesis about why God created it all. I wish there were.It must be out of love. He did not need us, and He was not lonely without us because of the perfect fellowship between the Persons of the Trinity.

[Socrates]

DBoone asks:This is a little off-topic, but do you believe the "gap theory", that there was a span of time between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2?No, this is totally untenable, as I explained in this post www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=12630#post12630