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The Laughing Man
April 15th 2003, 10:37 PM
These people just can't let Clinton go. If they could break the law and make him president again (and permanently), they no doubt would. Geez...

The Truth About Clinton’s Military (http://www.bushcountry.org/news/columnists/jonathan-clark/c_041503_jonathan-clark_clinton_military.htm)


It started on Wednesday with a column from Tribune Media Services writer, Matthew Miller. Miller, who it should be noted, served as Senior Advisor to the Director of the Office of Management and Budget from 1993 to 1995 – the Clinton years part I. In his April 9th column he attempts to credit Bill Clinton with the effectiveness of today’s military.

"The remarkable feats in Iraq are being performed by Bill Clinton's military.

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Miller then had the audacity to attempt a re-write of history to paint Clinton as a supporter of the military and sustained defense budgets.

"But politics explains why Bill Clinton insisted the Pentagon maintain a Cold War budget even without a Cold War, to protect his party's right flank."

I hate to confuse the situation with the facts Mr. Miller, but quite the opposite is true. The Clinton/Gore Administration stretched our military forces very thin from 1993 to 1999. In addition, they increased spending on social experiments while cutting defense spending."

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Pelosi talked of the toppling of Saddam’s regime as if were some sort of public works project. And as Mrs. Pelosi praised the troops, she also said their success was owed "in large measure" to former President Bill Clinton.

Pelosi continued with the left’s defense of Clinton saying "This best-trained, best-equipped, best-led force for peace in the history of the world was not invented in the last two years. This had a strong influence and strong support during the Clinton years," she said.
The problem with this line of reasoning besides it being factually incorrect is that if this is ‘Clinton’s Military’, then this is also ‘Clinton’s Economy’. As always they want to have it both ways.

Funny how just last week, the pundits were blaming Bush for basically what amounted to their own impatience with how they thought the war should have progressed. Now that the success is so overwhelmingly apparent, they attempt to re-write history.

Ah, but of course Bush didn't inherit the bad economy from Clinton. :rofl:

Jimmy Higgins
April 15th 2003, 10:44 PM
Today @ 10:37 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=68630#post68630)
Jinx72:
Ah, but of course Bush didn't inherit the bad economy from Clinton. :rofl: And Clinton didn't inherit Somalia from Bush. And Clinton inherited the booming economy from Reagan, though 4 years late. And baby Bush didn't inherit Iraq from his father. Or baby Bush didn't inherit 9/11 because of the grossly arrogent policies of the Reagan admin. Amazing how Wolfowitz is the expert at saying who the enemy is and how powerful they are, but is completely oblivious to our poor policies in the Middle East being part of the reason for 9/11.

We were told Clinton killed the military. They did well in Iraq, atleast against what turned out to be a meager opponent. So did Clinton kill the military or not? Bush hasn't been in charge long enough to make big enough changes.

spl_cadet
April 15th 2003, 11:26 PM
Today @ 07:44 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=68634#post68634)
Jimmy Higgins:
And Clinton didn't inherit Somalia from Bush.

As it turned out, he didn't. If he'd bothered to listen to the local ground commanders and let them have and use what they wanted, Somalia wouldn't have turned out the way that it did.



And baby Bush didn't inherit Iraq from his father.

Correct, it came from Clinton's refusal to enforce the resolutions with anything more than a few paltry missiles.



Or baby Bush didn't inherit 9/11 because of the grossly arrogent policies of the Reagan admin.

Correct seeing as how Al-Qaeda wasn't formed till at least the Bush years, 9/11 planning wasn't until about 98, and Clinton didn't go after any of the terrorist acts that occured on his watch.



Amazing how Wolfowitz is the expert at saying who the enemy is and how powerful they are, but is completely oblivious to our poor policies in the Middle East being part of the reason for 9/11.

Last I checked they didn't like us because we are infidels, not because we aren't handing out enough aid.



We were told Clinton killed the military. They did well in Iraq, atleast against what turned out to be a meager opponent. So did Clinton kill the military or not? Bush hasn't been in charge long enough to make big enough changes.

Sorry to tell you this, but Bush has been in long enough to make such changes. Most people in the armed forces enlisted after Bush took office. Furthermore, for the past two years the military has been operating under Rumsfield's strategic planning.

The Laughing Man
April 15th 2003, 11:30 PM
Re-writing history seems to be a pasttime of many leftists.

GrayPilgrim
April 15th 2003, 11:39 PM
Besides morale was shot under Clinton and Bush's respect for the military has changed morale for the better!

Socrates
April 16th 2003, 12:29 AM
JH:


And baby Bush didn't inherit Iraq from his father.

SPL:Correct, it came from Clinton's refusal to enforce the resolutions with anything more than a few paltry missiles.And even then, only to deflect attention from his many sexual scandals.