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skepticbud
April 16th 2003, 10:48 PM
Dee Dee's is currently "mama said knock you out!"

This is directly contrary to the pacifist stance Jesus commanded of his followers:

'But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39, KJV)

and

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." (Matthew 10:36, KJV) --- Has Jesus sent forth Dee Dee as a sheep into the midst of wolves (committed skeptics of the gospel/atheists/heretics, etc) noted by her presence at this board, which has these kinds of people? Sure. So Jesus' exhortation to be harmless applies also to her and not just the disciples at that particular time.

Also, here are some of the lyrics to "mama said knock you out!" from the singer of that song, L.L Cool J....whatever Dee Dee objected to about Janet Jackson lyrics not being sexual in nature, is demolished with her new image as somebody who will knock you out on the basis of her mother's advice. Warning, the following lyrics that popularized Dee Dee's new slogan are not for the meek nor the humble of heart.

Breakdown!!!

Shadow boxin when I heard you on the radio (HUUUH!!!)
I just don't know
What made you forget that I was raw?
But now I got a new tour
I'm goin insane, startin the hurricane, releasin pain
Lettin you know that you can't gain, I maintain
Unless ya say my name
Rippin, killin
Diggin and drillin a hole
Pass the Ol' Gold

[Chorus]

Shotgun blasts are heard
When I rip and kill, at WILL
The man of the hour, tower of power, I'll devour
I'm gonna tie you up and let you understand
that I'm not your average man
when I got a jammy in my hand
DAAAAAM!!!!! Oooooohh!!
Listen to the way I slaaaaay, your crew
Damage (UHH) damage (UHH) damage (UHH) damage
Destruction, terror, and mayhem
Pass me a sissy so suckas I'll slay him
Farmers (What!!!) Farmers (What!!!)
I'm ready (we're ready!!!)
I think I'm gonna bomb a town (get down!!)
Don't u neva, eva, pull my lever
Cuz I explode
And my nine is easy to load
I gotta thank God
Cuz he gave me the strength to rock
HARD!! knock you out, mama said knock you out

[Chorus]

Personally i can't think of a better non-Christian phrase and worldly song with which to identifiy one's self.
=======

Holding's phrase is "avenging angel".

The bible provides a sound rebuttal to this attitude as well:

"Avenge not yourself, but give place unto wrath, for vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the lord." (Romans 12:19)

"not returning evil for evil..." (1st Peter 3:9)
========

Summary: A weaker brother M-I-G-H-T be offended at these particularly UNChristian slogans, therefore you are under constraint already, without having heard any specific complaint, to take the safer road and not tempt the lord by placing what is clearly a POSSIBLE stumbling block in your brother's way, read Romans 14.

You are interested in prioritizing your liberty in Christ to write whatever avatar message you wish, above your Christian duty to sacrifice for the weaker brother.

And it's perfectly obvious that "mama said knock you out" and "avenging angel" are far far away from the conservative Christian moral character Paul and Jesus exhorted their followers to eminate.:fight:

Jin-Roh
April 16th 2003, 11:02 PM
:rant:
How much time did you spend writing that? Perhaps you'd like to give a 6000 Character essay on proper Christian avater names. Don't forget your Strong's Concordance! Maybe "Master of Shirt-fu" isn't Holy enough for the Skeptic who doesn't believe in God anyway.

I can't tell if you're trying to bait us, or if honestly think that what you said has any validity.
Either way...
:whack:

Piebald
April 16th 2003, 11:31 PM
Discussions involving frivolous complaints about satirical slogans which have permeated pop-culture cause me stumble.

Please, for the sake of my soul, don't engage in one

:doh:

Jaltus
April 17th 2003, 01:25 AM
Good grief.

yxboom
April 17th 2003, 01:34 AM
I originally had that title: Avenging Angel :whack:

GrayPilgrim
April 17th 2003, 01:56 AM
Sheesh!

Em7add11
April 17th 2003, 02:06 AM
I'm changing my title to baby crusher. Apparently my immoral "twitterpated" isn't offensive enough to merit a thread of it's own.

yxboom
April 17th 2003, 02:14 AM
What about Farell Till's title "Loved by the ladies"

Em7add11
April 17th 2003, 02:21 AM
/me scurries off to see if boom is for real.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sher
April 17th 2003, 02:27 AM
:shrug: :dufus:

Pssst ... isn't this in the wrong area? Does it BELONG in Religion 102?

dizzle
April 17th 2003, 04:36 AM
Tsk, tsk, tsk, I didn't know Mr. Till had it in him. Pretty good for 70 years old....

dizzle
April 17th 2003, 04:39 AM
Hint to bud: that byline went with yesterday's avatar.. I am going to be changing it today to go with my new avatar... but I cannot come up with anything clever which is the only reason I didn't change it last night. But in honor of you, I may just change my avatar back rather than the byline.

jpholding
April 17th 2003, 09:40 AM
Jaltus in particular,

Aren't you glad I'm here to engage people like Bud so that you don't have to? :smile:

I'm guessing you haven't seen some of Bud's other diatribes. He's already been thrashed to the maximum the law allows on Rom. 14, so there's no need to engage this further here as I see it. Anyone other than Bud disagree?

This is a guy who thinks the Go Home at the bottom of my pages is an insult. Well, there are many medications available for paranoia on the market...

dizzle
April 17th 2003, 09:43 AM
I cry every time I see that Go Home button. :bawl:

dizzle
April 17th 2003, 07:25 PM
Bud, em7 really wants you to author some drunken ramblings about him now. Have you seen his byline?

jpholding
April 17th 2003, 07:32 PM
Never mind that byline, look at that PET! :eek: He might scare someone, a weaker brother who was once bitten by a pit bull.

dizzle
April 17th 2003, 07:47 PM
And egad man!! Is he in the buff??? I was once traumatized by a streaker. I don't think I can take it.

Em7add11
April 17th 2003, 07:54 PM
I think skepticbud is being too liberal here. I'm looking at all the other bylines and look at this wickedness:

Jin-Roh - Master of Shirt-Fu
He's obviously encouraging mysticism....and pre-marital sex.

Hamster - Some Assembly Required
A kid could swallow some of those small pieces! Think of the children!

Yxboom - What'd you expect?!
Look at that attitude, what a thug. His username also has the word "boom" which must be a reference to 9/11. Yxboom should resign as administrator immediately or the terroists have already won.

GrayPilgrim - Mad Man of Wittenburg
Mad man? Are you making fun of the mentally ill? At least he's making progress from his original byline: "Go-tard."

Wickedness abounds! You all should be ashamed.

Evangel
April 17th 2003, 07:57 PM
i am truly envious of those who have not conversed or even known of skepticbud's existence. i have never in my life seen someone so dedicated towards their own self gratification. do you think that anyone besides yourself (if you really are bothered) was bothered. besides the whole point of their signature is to get you to do what your doing now. they are laughing at your every word, and i with them.

if you want anyone to take you seriously i suggest you start posting about things worth debating, not your juvenile insults. i have not yet used the ignore and i do not wish to.

your brother in christ,
Evangel

dizzle
April 17th 2003, 08:02 PM
:rofl:

Bud, see how much you are loved??

Bill the Cat
April 18th 2003, 01:58 AM
Weee Haw. Can I chime in? I'm mad Bud hasn't accused me of being an evolutionist because of my wolverine avatar and quote.

:argh: :argh: :argh:

papabryant
April 18th 2003, 09:46 AM
:hrm: From what I've seen of him around the site, Bud would be my arguement FOR censorship.

Maybe James Madison was wrong about allowing the common man a means of free expression. :ahem:

Lizard
April 18th 2003, 12:04 PM
Hey bud?

My avatars are clay figures.

Can you say idolatry.

Shame on you for not rebuking me and my evil avatar.

jpholding
April 18th 2003, 02:07 PM
Dang, I forgot about Wallace and Gromit. I need to write an article about that. :em7:

Megane
April 19th 2003, 01:17 AM
:rofl:

oh...man...:lol:


*snicker*
regards,
Megane

Bill the Cat
April 19th 2003, 01:26 AM
Maybe my pseudonym may cause Bud to stumble. Bill the Cat was stoned most of the time!!

Blake Reas
April 20th 2003, 12:06 AM
04-17-2003 @ 03:48 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=70357#post70357)
skepticbud:

Dee Dee's is currently "mama said knock you out!"

This is directly contrary to the pacifist stance Jesus commanded of his followers:

'But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39, KJV)

and

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." (Matthew 10:36, KJV) --- Has Jesus sent forth Dee Dee as a sheep into the midst of wolves (committed skeptics of the gospel/atheists/heretics, etc) noted by her presence at this board, which has these kinds of people? Sure. So Jesus' exhortation to be harmless applies also to her and not just the disciples at that particular time.

Also, here are some of the lyrics to "mama said knock you out!" from the singer of that song, L.L Cool J....whatever Dee Dee objected to about Janet Jackson lyrics not being sexual in nature, is demolished with her new image as somebody who will knock you out on the basis of her mother's advice. Warning, the following lyrics that popularized Dee Dee's new slogan are not for the meek nor the humble of heart.

Breakdown!!!

Shadow boxin when I heard you on the radio (HUUUH!!!)
I just don't know
What made you forget that I was raw?
But now I got a new tour
I'm goin insane, startin the hurricane, releasin pain
Lettin you know that you can't gain, I maintain
Unless ya say my name
Rippin, killin
Diggin and drillin a hole
Pass the Ol' Gold

[Chorus]

Shotgun blasts are heard
When I rip and kill, at WILL
The man of the hour, tower of power, I'll devour
I'm gonna tie you up and let you understand
that I'm not your average man
when I got a jammy in my hand
DAAAAAM!!!!! Oooooohh!!
Listen to the way I slaaaaay, your crew
Damage (UHH) damage (UHH) damage (UHH) damage
Destruction, terror, and mayhem
Pass me a sissy so suckas I'll slay him
Farmers (What!!!) Farmers (What!!!)
I'm ready (we're ready!!!)
I think I'm gonna bomb a town (get down!!)
Don't u neva, eva, pull my lever
Cuz I explode
And my nine is easy to load
I gotta thank God
Cuz he gave me the strength to rock
HARD!! knock you out, mama said knock you out

[Chorus]

Personally i can't think of a better non-Christian phrase and worldly song with which to identifiy one's self.
=======

Holding's phrase is "avenging angel".

The bible provides a sound rebuttal to this attitude as well:

"Avenge not yourself, but give place unto wrath, for vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the lord." (Romans 12:19)

"not returning evil for evil..." (1st Peter 3:9)
========

Summary: A weaker brother M-I-G-H-T be offended at these particularly UNChristian slogans, therefore you are under constraint already, without having heard any specific complaint, to take the safer road and not tempt the lord by placing what is clearly a POSSIBLE stumbling block in your brother's way, read Romans 14.

You are interested in prioritizing your liberty in Christ to write whatever avatar message you wish, above your Christian duty to sacrifice for the weaker brother.

And it's perfectly obvious that "mama said knock you out" and "avenging angel" are far far away from the conservative Christian moral character Paul and Jesus exhorted their followers to eminate.:fight:

Dude get a life! I am pretty sure I probably ran into you in one of those YAHOO chat rooms only someone who posts there would post such nonsense.

By His Grace For His Glory
Blake

Evangel
April 20th 2003, 05:54 PM
sketpicbud is rabble rouser and has already been smashed to pieces by the great JP Holding.

dizzle
April 20th 2003, 06:10 PM
Apparently I unwittingly gave him a whole new reason to live with my newest avatar. He had better hurry and get a thread stated, becuase fair warning, I already have a new one planned, unless Steven backs out of debating me.

The Laughing Man
April 24th 2003, 02:46 PM
04-20-2003 @ 05:10 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=74078#post74078)
Dee Dee Warren:

Apparently I unwittingly gave him a whole new reason to live with my newest avatar.

No doubt! (*gasp!* "No doubt?!" A reference to that ska band with the lead singer who dresses provocatively in tiny tanktops! It's evil, I tell you! EEEEEE-VUUUUUUUL!!!!!)

It's amazing how Bud hangs on your every move, Dee Dee. (JPH, too.) I bet he's got your profile bookmarked so he can check in at least once a day (I bet more than once) to see if you've changed your avatar and/or tagline. :rofl:

skepticbud
April 24th 2003, 08:22 PM
Holding's new sig line is:

"This tagline is 100% Romans 14 Approved."

There are many weaker Christians who take the liberal stance that not everything apostle Paul said was true, therefore, attempting espouse every specific bit of theology Paul believed is a hindrence to one's so-called personal relationship with Christ.

Viewing it as a hindrence, some weaker liberal brothers will be offended at Holding's fundamentalist attempt to promote such legalistic Paulism.

As such, Holding should sacrifice his fundy view of Romans 14 for the sake of the weaker brother, and should instead accept the fact that Romans 14 doesn't qualify as a noose to hang around other people's necks.

dizzle
April 24th 2003, 08:37 PM
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semmie
April 24th 2003, 08:38 PM
Today @ 08:22 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=77954#post77954)
skepticbud:

Holding's new sig line is:

"This tagline is 100% Romans 14 Approved."

There are many weaker Christians who take the liberal stance that not everything apostle Paul said was true, therefore, attempting espouse every specific bit of theology Paul believed is a hindrence to one's so-called personal relationship with Christ.

Viewing it as a hindrence, some weaker liberal brothers will be offended at Holding's fundamentalist attempt to promote such legalistic Paulism.

As such, Holding should sacrifice his fundy view of Romans 14 for the sake of the weaker brother, and should instead accept the fact that Romans 14 doesn't qualify as a noose to hang around other people's necks.

so bud....what is it exactly that you're skeptical about??? surely it can't be the bible--you know that enough to quote it against jp and dee dee....perhaps you are skeptical of the way some christians live. is that it? help me understand, because quoting scripture against silly pictures and phrases on the internet...doesn't seem like logical reason for skepticism to me. perhaps you've got something that is REALLY bugging you about christianity. i'm sure we'd all love to hear it, and consider its validity. otherwise, your comments about avatars and sigs is just pretty stupid, hon. no offense. :shrug: that's just the way it is.

Blake Reas
April 24th 2003, 09:04 PM
Bud,

What do you think about my Avatar and phrase?:rofl: :rofl:

By His Grace For His Glory
Blake

Em7add11
April 24th 2003, 09:28 PM
Do you know of any verses about baby crushing? I want to make sure mine is kosher too.

Blake Reas
April 24th 2003, 10:26 PM
Today @ 02:28 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=78021#post78021)
Em7add11:

Do you know of any verses about baby crushing? I want to make sure mine is kosher too.
I can only give this one reply! :spam: and :ROFL:

By His Grace For His Glory
Blake

skepticbud
April 25th 2003, 03:28 AM
Today @ 02:04 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=77998#post77998)
Blake Reas:

Bud,

What do you think about my Avatar and phrase?:rofl: :rofl:

By His Grace For His Glory
Blake

it gives the appearence of being unChristian, since the whole of Christianity is dedicated to telling unbelievers that god has provided a way for people to recieve her own mercy.

skepticbud
April 25th 2003, 03:32 AM
Today @ 02:28 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=78021#post78021)
Em7add11:

Do you know of any verses about baby crushing? I want to make sure mine is kosher too.

"Happy is he who takes your littles ones and dashes them against the rocks." (Psalm 137:9)

But you will be told this is "just" semitic exaggeration to make a point, not literal, by those Christians who accept many things in Psalm 16 and Psalm 22 as literal.

dizzle
April 25th 2003, 04:35 AM
Hmm, kind of like people who hear, "It is raining cats and dogs outside" take "raining" and "outside" literally, but "cats and dogs" figuratively? How dare they!!! Make up their minds. How can they expect me to believe that part of the sentence is literal and the other is not!!! Sounds like a convenient excuse to me.

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jpholding
April 25th 2003, 01:37 PM
Today @ 08:32 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=78188#post78188)
skepticbud:



"Happy is he who takes your littles ones and dashes them against the rocks." (Psalm 137:9)

But you will be told this is "just" semitic exaggeration to make a point, not literal, by those Christians who accept many things in Psalm 16 and Psalm 22 as literal.

Who told you that?

Though it reflect a normal oriental imprecation, Ps. 137:9 also reflects standard warfare procedure. For those who have moral issues with that see

http://www.tektonics.org/ancientmores.html

I don't think I need to say much more. On Rom. 14, Bud is either pretending to be funny, or in need of the links Dee Dee has provided. I vote for the latter. :poke:

$cirisme
April 25th 2003, 01:40 PM
Hey, Skeptic, I'm the resident geek. And we all know geeks are the circus side-shows who bite the head off of chickens.

Wouldn't this cause a Christian butcher to stumble?

Alden
April 25th 2003, 10:16 PM
You know, I wasn't aware of the existence of Skepticbud until yesterday, and...oh for the good old days.

Alden
April 25th 2003, 10:18 PM
oh yeah, and I hope that my "six-string devil" sig didn't offend anyone.http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/ruinkai/FIREdevil.gif

Em7add11
April 25th 2003, 10:21 PM
Today @ 02:32 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=78188#post78188)
skepticbud:

"Happy is he who takes your littles ones and dashes them against the rocks." (Psalm 137:9)

But you will be told this is "just" semitic exaggeration to make a point, not literal, by those Christians who accept many things in Psalm 16 and Psalm 22 as literal.

Well, if it's literal, then I'm ok. My sig refers to "crushing" not "dashing." Falling on something and being smashed by something are two unrelated things.

The Laughing Man
April 25th 2003, 10:48 PM
Today @ 09:21 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=79083#post79083)
Em7add11:

Well, if it's literal, then I'm ok. My sig refers to "crushing" not "dashing." Falling on something and being smashed by something are two unrelated things.

:rofl: Good job! Bud discredits himself with his glaring inconsistencies.

Epoetker
April 27th 2003, 04:01 PM
Dave Chapelle in Undercover Brother:

Eddie Griffin: Good morning!

Chapelle: "Good" is derived from the Anglo-Saxon term 'Go-ah', meaning 'lack of color,' meaning, 'let's kill me some n******!'

Skepticbud is THIS CLOSE to parsing as closely.

Sher
April 27th 2003, 07:29 PM
:lol: Epoetker!

skepticbud
April 27th 2003, 09:57 PM
04-25-2003 @ 09:35 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=78206#post78206)
Dee Dee Warren:

Hmm, kind of like people who hear, "It is raining cats and dogs outside" take "raining" and "outside" literally, but "cats and dogs" figuratively? How dare they!!! Make up their minds. How can they expect me to believe that part of the sentence is literal and the other is not!!! Sounds like a convenient excuse to me.


That didn't make any sense. "Outside" and "Raining" in your analogy would be perfectly obvious as literally true to all who heard it and spoke the same language.

However, there is a huge amount of debate among Christian scholars as to whether the Psalms predicted Jesus in any way that can be useful to the modern apologist living in a "prove it" world. Nope. Jesus, and probably 150 other wannabes of that day could be matched to things spoken in the Psalms, and suddenly, you have 151 prophets being "pre-figured" and "predicted" in that book of Poetry that Christian intellectuals are constantly debating called Psalms.

If that weren't enough, every orothdox jew DOESN'T see Jesus being predicted anywhere in the Psalm or in any other Old Testament book.

How many people do you know who seriously question which parts of "it's raining cats and dogs outside" are literal just like they question which parts of the Psalms are literal?

Or did you forget to check your knee-jerk witty response before you clicked "submit" for possible power failure?

dizzle
April 27th 2003, 11:46 PM
And you make no sense, and did not deal with my point. Oh well, I am not surprised. Have another round.

djnoz
April 28th 2003, 01:59 AM
hahaha - I just discovered this thread. I'm still laughing
:rofl: :rofl:

skepticbud
April 28th 2003, 06:13 AM
Today @ 04:46 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=80562#post80562)
Dee Dee Warren:

And you make no sense, and did not deal with my point. Oh well, I am not surprised. Have another round.

While I'm having that round, I'll remind you that you used the phrase "it's raining cats and dogs outside" to demonstrate, contrary to me, that one sentence can have both literal and figurative words in it.

I responded by showing that anybody who heard the sentence and spoke your same language would know instantly which words were literal and which were intended as figurative.

I then pointed out that Christian scholars disagree about which Psalm sentences and parts thereof are literal or figurative, thus the Psalm issue i brought surely is characterized by disagreement over how to interpret, but that NOBODY is in disagreement about what exactly "it's raining cats and dogs outside" really means. So your analogy fails, because while nobody disagrees about what it means, everybody disagrees about how to interpret the Psalms. Christianity is always a faithful friend when you need a bunch of people who believe the same things but disagree with each other on how to understand those things. Thanks for hanging in there, you sure a helping.

Therefore I DID speak to your point, and proved that you failed to falsify my previous accusation about christians being inconsistent to accept some of the Psalms figuratively and others literally conveniently without any criteria in place to determine literal and figurative language beforehand.

Here's mud in your eye. :cheers:

Sher
April 28th 2003, 02:38 PM
Now I know why Bud's title is "Sophomore" :lol: ... it must relate to his sophomoric understanding of everything ....

Perfect choice, Bud! :thumb:

skepticbud
April 30th 2003, 08:07 AM
04-28-2003 @ 07:38 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=81074#post81074)
SherBear:

Now I know why Bud's title is "Sophomore" :lol: ... it must relate to his sophomoric understanding of everything ....

Perfect choice, Bud! :thumb:

*I* am the one asking for the criteria Christians use for determining how a biblical verse is and isn't to be interpreted, and you say that is sophmoric?

Would I be a senior in your eyes if I just said, "whatever Holding says is true :duh:"?

maybe seNILE?

that was a cute "oh yeah?!" sherbert, and it's your little peeps that keep the tank turrets a'spining. And I sit while i spin. Stop flipping me off. :thumb:

dizzle
April 30th 2003, 08:11 AM
Wow, Sher, I think he just gave you a drunken rant.