Dispensational Abbreviation

[Jade]

Hitch said DF: More Fairytales of the SRB
On page 1101 of your '09 SRB you will find

So what does DF mean?

What does SRB mean?

:huh:

[Xmansmommy]

Jade, I had those same questions and the answers I've come up with are, DF=dispensationalist futurist and SRB=Scofield Reference Bible. Hope I'm correct in those explainations.

In Him,
Linda

[Rubia Warren]

What the heck is a dispensationalist futurist?

[Xmansmommy]

LaRubia,
I probably won't do the definition justice, but a dispensationalist futurist is someone who is dispensational and who holds the view that there is still prophecy yet to be fulfilled. Hope that helps.

Blessings,
Linda

[bar Jonah]

Yes, a DF is any one of several kinds of dispensationalists who (correctly) believes that the Tribulation hasn't happened yet.

A Preterist, on the other hand (does that make them a P?) believes the Tribulation (the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy) happened in the 1st century, and began when Jesus was baptized -- even though Daniel's prophecy states that the messiah is cut off before the 70th week begins. ;)

[Rubia Warren]

So, what's the alternative to being a dispensationalist- or are we all in some way or another?

[bar Jonah]

All Christians necessarily ascribe to either dispensational theology or covenent theology.

In a nutshell (and this is VERY pared down and summarized), covenentals believe we have inherited all of the promises God made to Israel, that the Body of Christ is the same as the Bride of Christ, that we are "spiritual Israel."

Dispensationalists believe that there is a difference between Israel and the Body of Christ, that we don't have all of the promises God gave Israel, that the Law of Moses was never given to the Gentiles, that we are not the Bride, and we are not "spiritual Israel," because God isn't done working with Israel yet -- God will return to working with Israel on a corporate level in the future.

[Jade]

Thanks, RIGHT IDEA! I was straining my brain trying to come up with a meaning to attach to those abbreviations. Sadly all I could think of was Dispensational Fundamentalist and Standard Revised Bible (Yeah, I know. That's twisted).

[GrayPilgrim]

But that is the problem with unexplained acronymns

[bar Jonah]

:rofl: ROTFLMBOBHODPMP :rofl:

[Hitch]

Jade:
Hitch said

So what does DF mean?

What does SRB mean?

:huh: Sorry I hadnt looked here yet and I didnt know there was any question directed to me.

DF ,,, Dispensational Futurist

This is an important distinction because all dispensationalist are futurists but not all futurist are dispensationalist.

SRB,,, Right again....

The SRB formed the backbone of American DF teaching from its first printing in 1909 and its adoption at the founding of DTS* in the 20s.


DTS Dallas Theological Seminary..

Importatnt because DTS is by far the largest DF school in the world, and for reasons cited above.


PM... Post Millennial ...

My position and that of most Reformed/Covenantal believers


Pre Mil..

Pre -Millennial, the majority position , held by all DFs

Cyrus, Cy,,,

Scofield's first name


I think that about covers it but I look around the thread to make sure. Sorry for the delay.


take ecare

Hitch

[Hitch]

La Rubia:
So, what's the alternative to being a dispensationalist- or are we all in some way or another? As Geoff Foxworthy might say;

If you (yew) can name all seven 'dispensations' off the top of your head ,,,You might be a dispensationalist.

If you cant, you are in the majority , and still might be a dispensationalist.

DF is a system that divides the Scriptures in to seven 'Dispensations' defined as 'periods of time' and is known for its division of the Kingdom of Heaven/Kingdom of God, Seperation of the Gospels as Law, and the foul 'Parenthitical Church Age' among others.

Which should really be discussed on the DF pages.



Take care

Hitch

[bar Jonah]

Hitch, your description of the division of dispensations is, as usual, inaccurate. The idea of seven dispensations is not a hardline belief.

There are different ways of dividing up geography -- time zones, terrain, states, counties, city and town limits... some of these are more specific than others, and some of these even overlap each other, such as city and county borders. Not to mention voting disctricts, etc.

Dispensations are not absolute dividers; they are simply a useful tool to show how God has changed His relationship with His followers since humanity began. You can be more specific or more general. Some dispies count as many as a couple dozen or more very specific dispensational changes. As far as I know, the fewest I have seen is seven, but there may be a view of fewer than that. The number of dispensations and is not so important. What's important is that 1) God has had different rules for different groups of believers at different times in history. This is not rationally debatable. And 2), it is important to know the "house rules" under which you live, so that you do not try to live by someone else's rules. For example, trying to observe the Law of Moses today would be wrong. But observing it back then was right. It's not a matter of situational ethics. They had a covenant with God that we don't have.

Just FYI. :x

[Hitch]

RightIdea:
Hitch, your description of the division of dispensations is, as usual, inaccurate. The idea of seven dispensations is not a hardline belief. Well it is found in the SRB and (yawn) was taught to thousands of pastors in traning at DTS for decades. And is often described as 'the only way to rightly divide the Word of Truth'. Your ignorance notwhithstanding.

There are different ways of dividing up geography -- time zones, terrain, states, counties, city and town limits... some of these are more specific than others, and some of these even overlap each other, such as city and county borders. Not to mention voting disctricts, etc. Ok jr what page of the SRB is this found on?

Get something clear. I'm concerned with the SRB and the teachings from DTS. I'm not concerned with following up every little off shoot or sidline. I stick to what is historical and documented.

Dispensations are not absolute dividers; they are simply a useful tool to show how God has changed His relationship with His followers since humanity began. You can be more specific or more general. Some dispies count as many as a couple dozen or more very specific dispensational changes. As far as I know, the fewest I have seen is seven, but there may be a view of fewer than that. The number of dispensations and is not so important. What's important is that 1) God has had different rules for different groups of believers at different times in history. This is not rationally debatable. And 2), it is important to know the "house rules" under which you live, so that you do not try to live by someone else's rules. For example, trying to observe the Law of Moses today would be wrong. But observing it back then was right. It's not a matter of situational ethics. They had a covenant with God that we don't have.

Just FYI. :x Since you seem lack basic understanding , my references are concerend with the foundational aspect of DF thought as set down in the SRB and at DTS. T hese are documented historical positions. How you could miss that is beyond comprehension. the fact that not all DF s follow that or any other patricualr line is immateriel. The SRB is widely used and DTS is still in operation.


Now if you're going to make me take you off ignore again please make it worth the trouble. It is absurd for you to continue to comment about the SRB when you have previously admitted to never having read it. Talk about something you know to someone who cares to listen.


Hitch

[bar Jonah]

Hitch:
Well it is found in the SRB and (yawn) was taught to thousands of pastors in traning at DTS for decades. And is often described as 'the only way to rightly divide the Word of Truth'. Your ignorance notwhithstanding. Ok jr what page of the SRB is this found on?

Get something clear. I'm concerned with the SRB and the teachings from DTS. I'm not concerned with following up every little off shoot or sidline. I stick to what is historical and documented. Since you seem lack basic understanding , my references are concerend with the foundational aspect of DF thought as set down in the SRB and at DTS. T hese are documented historical positions. How you could miss that is beyond comprehension. the fact that not all DF s follow that or any other patricualr line is immateriel. The SRB is widely used and DTS is still in operation.


Now if you're going to make me take you off ignore again please make it worth the trouble. It is absurd for you to continue to comment about the SRB when you have previously admitted to never having read it. Talk about something you know to someone who cares to listen.


Hitch
I have more information and a broader view of dispensational theology than you, and you call me "ignorant" for that? How logical of you.

Good luck on finding a Scofieldian dispensationalist. If you find one, let me know so I can watch from the bleachers. But until then, please refrain from shooting holes in targets that can't shoot back -- it's boring and exceedingly unimpressive. If it's your "mission from God" to seek out and destroy Scofieldian dispies, then I don't know what else to tell you, except that you might try actually loving your brothers in Christ instead of building your life around finding any and every means to attack your brothers.

Take care, God bless and see ya around the forums.