Joshua 12

[stevencarrwork]

Joshua 12:7-10
7 These are the kings of the land that Joshua and the Israelites conquered on the west side of the Jordan, from Baal Gad in the Valley of Lebanon to Mount Halak, which rises toward Seir (their lands Joshua gave as an inheritance to the tribes of Israel according to their tribal divisions-

8 the hill country, the western foothills, the Arabah, the mountain slopes, the desert and the Negev-the lands of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites):

9 the king of Jericho one
the king of Ai (near Bethel) one
10 the king of Jerusalem one

Is the passage trying to imply that Joshua defeated the king of Jerusalem and took over his land?

[Bill the Cat]

No. It is implying that he beat the King, but never established a strong enough presence to keep them out.

[stevencarrwork]

Today @ 10:05 AM
Bill the Cat:

No. It is implying that he beat the King, but never established a strong enough presence to keep them out.

Thanks for the answer.

Just one more question.

Joshua 21
43 So the LORD gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their forefathers, and they took possession of it and settled there. 44 The LORD gave them rest on every side, just as he had sworn to their forefathers. Not one of their enemies withstood them; the LORD handed all their enemies over to them. 45 Not one of all the LORD's good promises to the house of Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.

Was Jerusalem part of the land that the LORD has sworn to give to Israel, a promise that was fulfilled and did not fail?

[jpholding]

Lookit Stevie trying to troll for contradictory answers to what I've written. :rofl: Try and make it more obvious, will ya?

[stevencarrwork]

Today @ 05:12 PM
jpholding:

Lookit Stevie trying to troll for contradictory answers to what I've written. :rofl: Try and make it more obvious, will ya?

Holding makes a special appearance in the thread, so his supporters can see him not answering direct questions.

After all, there might still be one or two supporters who think he can answer the questions of sceptics, which is why he posts to make it obvious even to them that he cannot.

And he does not answer , because he knows that a Bible contradiction is staring him in the face, just as the American tanks were staring Comical Ali in the face.

[jpholding]

Holding makes a special appearance in the thread, so his supporters can see him not answering direct questions.

You mean, see you caught with your pants down trying to sow division? :rofl: I answered all the questions, Stevie. Your master wishes I hadn't.

Your new boss says BACK TO WORK! Your bravado break is up!

[Blake Reas]

Yesterday @ 05:50 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=82041#post82041)
stevencarrwork:



Holding makes a special appearance in the thread, so his supporters can see him not answering direct questions.

After all, there might still be one or two supporters who think he can answer the questions of sceptics, which is why he posts to make it obvious even to them that he cannot.

And he does not answer , because he knows that a Bible contradiction is staring him in the face, just as the American tanks were staring Comical Ali in the face.

Let us think about something here. If you where trying to show contadictions in the pentateuch (assuming you believe the defunct JEDP) I would give you some credit for trying. But the fact is why would one author make so many mistakes in writing a book? You guys found more contradictions in the Bible than is rationally reasonable. It gets ridicoulous, go do something else like read philosophy or archaeology.

Blake

[Bill the Cat]

Today @ 06:50 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=81766#post81766)
stevencarrwork:



Thanks for the answer.

Just one more question.

Joshua 21
43 So the LORD gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their forefathers, and they took possession of it and settled there. 44 The LORD gave them rest on every side, just as he had sworn to their forefathers. Not one of their enemies withstood them; the LORD handed all their enemies over to them. 45 Not one of all the LORD's good promises to the house of Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.

Was Jerusalem part of the land that the LORD has sworn to give to Israel, a promise that was fulfilled and did not fail?

Let's not beat around the bush, shall we? let's get to the nitty gritty. Is this verse you listed second contradicting the first? Is that what you are asking?

[stevencarrwork]

Today @ 01:32 AM
Blake Reas:



Let us think about something here. If you where trying to show contadictions in the pentateuch (assuming you believe the defunct JEDP) I would give you some credit for trying. But the fact is why would one author make so many mistakes in writing a book? You guys found more contradictions in the Bible than is rationally reasonable. It gets ridicoulous, go do something else like read philosophy or archaeology.



Blake refuses to answer the question.

He refuses to answer questions , on the grounds that an answer would demonstrate am obvious contradiction, and you refuse to believe there are contradictions.

Does he think that other Christians can not see that how blatantly he is in denial?

[stevencarrwork]

Today @ 04:49 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=82703#post82703)
Bill the Cat:



Let's not beat around the bush, shall we? let's get to the nitty gritty. Is this verse you listed second contradicting the first? Is that what you are asking?


You could have just used your scroll key to find that out.

This was what I am asking.

'Was Jerusalem part of the land that the LORD has sworn to give to Israel, a promise that was fulfilled and did not fail?'

Once you have honestly answered that question, we can see if your answer contradicts the answer you gave earlier.

JP Holding will never answer the question.

He claims to have answered it here,

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3759 where everybody , even the people who send him money, can see how he does not.

Amazing how Christians are baffled by the question of whether Jerusalem is in the Promised Land.

[stevencarrwork]

Still no answer from these Christians, who Sherbear says spend hours and hours studying just these questions.

[stevencarrwork]

04-29-2003 @ 10:05 AM
Bill the Cat:

No. It is implying that he beat the King, but never established a strong enough presence to keep them out.

In http://www.tektonics.org/JPH_WRE.html

Holding writes 'No one doubts that there were clearly stated promises that Yahweh would give the land of the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites to the seed of Abraham.'

If the land of the Jebusites was promised, then why was Jerusalem not conquered, as promised?

[jpholding]

It's all answered in my articles, Stevie.

The reason you're being ignored is that I exposed you for trolling for answers to try to sow division. You're not clever enough. Not here OR in the Arena commentary.

BTW I just issued a challenge to you in he Gym. Go look.