X-men 2

[Gavin]

I heard someone say that Xmen 2 is the one of the most anticipated movies EVER. Does that seem over-stated to anyone else?

[Em7add11]

I'm brimming with anticipation for next Transformers movie myself.

[Megane]

Today @ 09:16 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=82629#post82629)
Gavin:

I heard someone say that Xmen 2 is the one of the most anticipated movies EVER. Does that seem over-stated to anyone else?


Ah, but you underestimate the extremely high level of anticipation being felt by comic book geeks. Even lapsed comic book geeks like myself are excited about this one.

[Gavin]

but why so much more than the first one, I wonder?

[Epoetker]

Because X-men was one of the first comic book movies that didn't suck.

But anybody who says that X-men 2 is one of THE MOST ANTICIPATED MOVIES EVAR!!111!!LOL!!!11!! in the same year that TWO Matrix movies and the ending to LotR comes out needs his head examined.

I read the comic book. Seemed okay.

[efta777]

Yeah, and then there was Episode 1 - very anticipated no matter how you feel about its merits.

[Bill the Cat]

i'm gonna see X2 on Friday and I'll post how I liked it Fri night. Can you tell I'm a fan???? :thumb: :rofl:

[Jin-Roh]

I really like X-men, but it is true that Episode I was the more antipated then X2.

There are no lines, people camping, or crowd control for X2 (yet) right?

[DanielleJoy]

I'm sure anticipating it :bunny:

I can't wait to see it, but I'm not going to for a while unless my dad is willing to finance it when I go home, as I have NO idea where there's a movie theatre out here and no one would want to take me... just like no one would take me when they had Sesame Street at the Carnegie Children's Museum a few months ago :bawl:

But I digress... can't WAIT for it :yipee:

[NSMinistries]

I'm hoping to see it Fri. as well. I have always like comic book movies. :yipee:

[Em7add11]

I'll probably wait until next weekend to go see it. The only movies I've ever camped out for was Lord of the Rings (both of them).

[Gavin]

Great movie, much better than the first one. :thumb: :thumb:

[efta777]

I just saw it.
It was pretty good (Though maybe a little long), and had some excellent special effects. I would have waited till next weekend but it wasn't even sold out.

[Bill the Cat]

It was so awesome to me!!! I enjoyed it so much, I'm gonna go back again next weekend. They needed more Colossus IMO

[dawnghost]

the movie was alright

I was never a comic books fan anyway
the only one I cared to read was Calvin and Hobbes

oh yeah... and LOBO

which reminds me of something...
that fight that he lost to Wolverine... RAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!! that was a LIE!!!!! it's like having an ant fight a bull, and then just because a lot of people voted for the ant, the bull loses!!!!! it's chaotic!!! I hate democracy!!!!RAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

whew

I mean no offense, Bill. maybe that's the reason I didn't like the movie THAT much. :teeth:

[Epoetker]

Let's take bets on the next new member who chooses anything Nightcrawler-related as his avatar/name/sig/quote...

[DanielleJoy]

GRRRRRRR I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO SEE IT LAST NIGHT!!!

The box office was closed when we got there, and then we found out it was sold out... it was gonna be so cool, the nicest theatre in Pittsburgh, we drove for an hour to get there... *sigh* such great plans and all I ended up getting was half of a milkshake and some chocolate Twizzlers.

[bar Jonah]

I agree, no way is X2 the most anticipated movie of all time. LOL Nevertheless, it's an awesome movie!!!

Not only is it about the greatest comic book ever written (and for most of the last 20 years, the most popular and succesful in the world)...

Not only is this one better than the first X-Men movie...

... but the new character, Nightcrawler, is an outspoken Christian who openly prays Christian prayers recites scriptures several times in the movie!

WOO HOO! As a mutant, myself... I give X2 three thumbs up! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[Dilton]

Dawnghost and I watched the movie together, and we came up with an ambitious project, based on the flaws we thought the movie to have:

X-POLICE:

X-POLICE would be an anime, totally animated, all the characters would be hand drawn. It would not be a movie with real actors. As a true anime, X-POLICE with be ENTIRELY set in a japanese world (that does not mean it would occur entirely in Japan, but it would mean that the animated feature would have a japanese "eye", or "feeling", just like in the best animes.

As for the plot, it would be the following:

With the increasing population of mutants in Japan, the government realized the confusion it was creating among the population, and to ally the best of the next evolution of human beings and to solve problems like criminality and terrorism, the government created a mutant high-tech police institution/school, called X-POLICE.
Unlike the mess it was the school of our fellow mutant Xavier, X-POLICE would mean hard training, hard discipline, hard concentration and finesse. All the best of the mutant race would form the elite squad that would unleash a razor-sharp combat force unbeatable to any with evil intentions. The X-Men would be so hard trained, that in a casual terror situation with hostages and an atomic bomb threatening an entire city or country, they would come into action and solve the situation in less than a second, with synchronized mutant powers and fast paced action, no terrorist would ever see what hit him.

The X-POLICE project anime, of course, would be a hit, with crowds going to see it in the movies in Japan, and millions buying playstation 3 just to have the game.
With this level of success, it is inevitable for it to become a trilogy, and so me and dawnghost came up with the 3 full movie sketches in mind:

X-POLICE 1: BATTLEMUTANTS.

Fast anime with lots of gore and light hentai. The formation of the X-POLICE and the destruction of the United States Of America, a country once dominated by evil mutants and terrorists due to its LAME economic system and foreign policy. This first movie would be so damn awesome no one with believe their eyes when they saw it.

X-POLICE 2: DANCE OF BLOOD.

Marvel joins D.C. to bring action like it has never before seen. LOBO comes to earth and the battle for survival begins. Social relations crumble to dust when nothing else matters but staying alive and run away from LOBO. In the end, LOBO realizes that X-POLICE is something honorable and exclusive, and joins them to battle against things LAME.

X-POLICE 3: OMEGA HOLOCAUST.
The onlaught continues in the final episode of this red saga filled with internal organs flying in the air. The battle sequences would be so incredible and unbelievable that you would find an action sequence beginning at the end and ending at the beginning. Galaxies and millions of light years away planets and alien species would be small for all the glory of X-POLICE in this live armageddon.

As X-POLICE would be a genre-breaker, it is innevitable a fourth movie to come out, and dawnghost visualized a SECOND LOBO coming to earth: X-POLICE 3.5: TOKYO ENTOMBED.

This fourth movie is still a secret in its plot, but I can assure you that one would NEVER be the same again once one saw it.

So, comments, anyone?

[Jin-Roh]

I saw it just now!! I love it!! It gets three dancing bananas!

:yipee: :yipee: :yipee:

[hupertheos]

It's a cool film, much better than the first. . . but it still lacked a certain something. I can't say what, though.

I give it a big :thumb:

(The trailer for 'The Matrix Reloaded' blew my mind more than X2, though. . .)

[dawnghost]

Today @ 03:45 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=87701#post87701)
Dilton:

Dawnghost and I watched the movie together, and we came up with an ambitious project, based on the flaws we thought the movie to have:

X-POLICE:

X-POLICE would be an anime, totally animated, all the characters would be hand drawn. It would not be a movie with real actors. As a true anime, X-POLICE with be ENTIRELY set in a japanese world (that does not mean it would occur entirely in Japan, but it would mean that the animated feature would have a japanese "eye", or "feeling", just like in the best animes.

As for the plot, it would be the following:

With the increasing population of mutants in Japan, the government realized the confusion it was creating among the population, and to ally the best of the next evolution of human beings and to solve problems like criminality and terrorism, the government created a mutant high-tech police institution/school, called X-POLICE.
Unlike the mess it was the school of our fellow mutant Xavier, X-POLICE would mean hard training, hard discipline, hard concentration and finesse. All the best of the mutant race would form the elite squad that would unleash a razor-sharp combat force unbeatable to any with evil intentions. The X-Men would be so hard trained, that in a casual terror situation with hostages and an atomic bomb threatening an entire city or country, they would come into action and solve the situation in less than a second, with synchronized mutant powers and fast paced action, no terrorist would ever see what hit him.

The X-POLICE project anime, of course, would be a hit, with crowds going to see it in the movies in Japan, and millions buying playstation 3 just to have the game.
With this level of success, it is inevitable for it to become a trilogy, and so me and dawnghost came up with the 3 full movie sketches in mind:

X-POLICE 1: BATTLEMUTANTS.

Fast anime with lots of gore and light hentai. The formation of the X-POLICE and the destruction of the United States Of America, a country once dominated by evil mutants and terrorists due to its LAME economic system and foreign policy. This first movie would be so damn awesome no one with believe their eyes when they saw it.

X-POLICE 2: DANCE OF BLOOD.

Marvel joins D.C. to bring action like it has never before seen. LOBO comes to earth and the battle for survival begins. Social relations crumble to dust when nothing else matters but staying alive and run away from LOBO. In the end, LOBO realizes that X-POLICE is something honorable and exclusive, and joins them to battle against things LAME.

X-POLICE 3: OMEGA HOLOCAUST.
The onlaught continues in the final episode of this red saga filled with internal organs flying in the air. The battle sequences would be so incredible and unbelievable that you would find an action sequence beginning at the end and ending at the beginning. Galaxies and millions of light years away planets and alien species would be small for all the glory of X-POLICE in this live armageddon.

As X-POLICE would be a genre-breaker, it is innevitable a fourth movie to come out, and dawnghost visualized a SECOND LOBO coming to earth: X-POLICE 3.5: TOKYO ENTOMBED.

This fourth movie is still a secret in its plot, but I can assure you that one would NEVER be the same again once one saw it.

So, comments, anyone?

oh my God!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh God HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I can't stop laughing, I can't believe you actually posted our secret project in here!!

anyway, you forgot to mention that Lobo will listen to Kataklysm in his spaceship, but everything else is just perfect!
I specially liked the name you gave for the fourth episode, which we hadn't discussed the title yet. "Tokyo Entombed" is a DAMN FINE name, man!!

X-Police is everything X-Men ever wanted to be and more! It's everything I ever wanted to be!! :lol:

oh and by the way... "light hentai" :rofl:


:rockon: KATAKLYSM!!!!!!!!!!

[Wesley's son]

Yesterday @ 03:42 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=87361#post87361)
RightIdea:

I agree, no way is X2 the most anticipated movie of all time. LOL Nevertheless, it's an awesome movie!!!

Not only is it about the greatest comic book ever written (and for most of the last 20 years, the most popular and succesful in the world)...

Not only is this one better than the first X-Men movie...

... but the new character, Nightcrawler, is an outspoken Christian who openly prays Christian prayers recites scriptures several times in the movie!

WOO HOO! As a mutant, myself... I give X2 three thumbs up! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


That's right. The Children of the Atom have managed to upstage the grandaddy titans of D.C. -> Super and Batman.


BTW, I pride myself on the prediction of the casting of Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier years before the first film was released.

That casting choice alone drew me to the first film.

[DanielleJoy]

I saw Patrick Stewart on Conan or The Daily Show or something and he was talking about a comic book (a really really long time ago) that had the xmen and star trek combined, with Jean-Luc Picard and Prof. X on the cover, and someone mentioned to him what would happen if it were made into a movie, and he replied with something about how he'd have to play both of them... 'twas pretty funny, considering the foreshadowing...

[Jimmy Higgins]

05-05-2003 @ 07:22 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=87921#post87921)
hupertheos:

It's a cool film, much better than the first. . . but it still lacked a certain something. I can't say what, though.

I give it a big :thumb:

(The trailer for 'The Matrix Reloaded' blew my mind more than X2, though. . .)
WARNING!!! HUGE SPOILER!
Well, I didn't think it really missed much. Cyclops was benign in the film which was a bit bad seeing that in the upcoming X3, it will be important, ie the huge Phoenix foreshadowing at the end.

[Jimmy Higgins]

05-04-2003 @ 03:42 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=87361#post87361)
RightIdea:

I agree, no way is X2 the most anticipated movie of all time. LOL Nevertheless, it's an awesome movie!!!It was a great film. Great setup for the next one.

... but the new character, Nightcrawler, is an outspoken Christian who openly prays Christian prayers recites scriptures several times in the movie!Yeah, but nightcrawler lives as he preaches, so there is nothing wrong with that. I like the character Nightcrawler.

[Em7add11]

Today @ 11:15 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=91063#post91063)
Jimmy Higgins:

WARNING!!! HUGE SPOILER!
Well, I didn't think it really missed much. Cyclops was benign in the film which was a bit bad seeing that in the upcoming X3, it will be important, ie the huge Phoenix foreshadowing at the end.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but all I can say is "I KNEW IT!" There's no way they couldn't get into the best storyline that X-Men had in the comic book.

[Dilton]

Damn is that the best storyline the comic book had??

I wonder how it has so many fans, damn the world is really lame.

[Sher]

Just got back from the movie ... while I am not by any means a comic reader (although my hubby was and had some good insights to impart) ... I thought it was a great movie :thumb:

:duh: Wolverine ...

[Em7add11]

Today @ 10:18 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=91660#post91660)
Dilton:

Damn is that the best storyline the comic book had??

I wonder how it has so many fans, damn the world is really lame.

That storyline stretched it's way into numerous other stories and added a nice supernatural element to everything. I assume you've read them all to make such a sweeping generalization?

[geebob]

WOO HOO! As a mutant, myself... I give X2 three thumbs up!

That's nothing. You should see my review of holes.

[DanielleJoy]

I FINALLY saw it :joy: it was everything I expected and more... now for the matrix :joy: :yipee: :joy: :yipee: :joy:

[mattbballman19]

Why did she have to die!!!!!!!!!:bawl:

[yxboom]

I thought it was alright. :egad:

[Piebald]

/ot Semi Spoiler


/Hide ERrggg.. I knew exactly what happened Jean.. I don't want to spoil anything though. The movie was fantastic in my opinion... Can't wait for Phoenix

[bar Jonah]

Yesterday @ 10:09 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=93912#post93912)
mattbballman19:

Why did she have to die!!!!!!!!!:bawl:
Yeah, just like Senator Kelly... :shifty:

[mattbballman19]

But the senator was ugly!!:hrm:

[yxboom]

...and kinda like the painful death of Mystique. The end of the movie clearly gave away Jean Grey's fate. Xavier wouldn't have been looking out the window and smiling :nc:

[Shaolin]

ok i wish i didnt read this thread

[NeilUnreal]

I'm not a big sci-fi fan, so I missed the first X-Movie and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to X2 on opening day (as part of a "team-building" excursion at work).

Bottom line. I liked it. Especially the scene where Magneto builds the bridge in front of him as he escapes from the plastic chamber. I'm also a fan of Famke Janssen and Alan Cumming, so the presence of both of them gave the movie a special appeal.

I liked it so much I went back and watched the first movie on television.

-Neil

[Jimmy Higgins]

Today @ 12:09 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=93912#post93912)
mattbballman19:

Why did she have to die!!!!!!!!!:bawl: Just in case you are serious, I'd recommend watching the movie again and stare at the screen at the end.

[Em7add11]

05-12-2003 @ 07:22 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=94776#post94776)
Jimmy Higgins:

Just in case you are serious, I'd recommend watching the movie again and stare at the screen at the end.

Or read "The Phoenix Saga" from the comic books.

[Waterrock]

X-Men 2: X-Men United outdid the previous X-Men movie in just about every way imaginable. There is more action, and there are more mutants -- a lot more. Shadowcat gets more than 5 seconds, and so does Colossus. Iceman has a strong role. Even Hank McCoy and Gambit get in on it, sorta (Remy's name is on a list on a computer monitor). Pyro does nothing for most of the movie, but when he does light up ... well, let's just say that Pyro could use some therapy.

The plot is ... complex. We enter the drama, to use the Latin, "en media res" ~ in the middle of things, as Nightcrawler attempts to kill the President. "What?!" I thought. "The fuzzy dwarf is a villain? Was the screenwriter insane???" Fear not, true believer: as the plot thickens, it becomes clear that Nightcrawler is one of the film's most noble characters. The BAMF-ing effects are quite impressive.

Nightcrawler is not the villain. And neither is Magneto (at least, not the main villain). The bad guy is William Stryker, a top-level government operative who has been keeping a close eye on the rise of mutants for some time. His son Jason is a brain-damaged mutant (whom Prof. X did not "cure" of mutant-hood, to the chagrin of his father), and a liquid secreted from Jason's brain gives him temporary control over other mutants (once the fluid is in contact with the victim's brain stem, which is accomplished by, um, dripping the fluid into a hole in the nape of the victim's neck).

Stryker, having learned (from interrogating Magneto with the control-fluid) about Cerebro and its potential as a weapon, has been constructing a full-scale replica of Cerebro, and plans to use it, and Professor X, to destroy all mutants. He also sends a team of commandos to capture mutants from Xavier's school (which results in all sorts of mayhem, including a short berzerker rage by Logan). The new Cerebro happens to be constructed near a dam in the same facility where Wolverine was adamantiumized (conveniently allowing two plot-threads to climax at one location!).

In the course of their attempt to thwart Stryker's plans, the X-Men encounter Magneto (who, with the help of Mystique, escapes from prison in a very ingenious and bloody way) and decide that it is necessary to join forces (thus the sub-title "X-Men United).

Everyone gets some time in the spotlight along the way toward the climax: Logan has a long and bloody fight with Lady Deathstrike (in the role of Stryker's henchperson). Storm calls down multiple twisters, Rogue and Iceman kiss (with predictable results), Magneto uses his power in various clever and violent ways, Nighcrawler and Storm have a short talk about faith, and so on. I think Cyclops has more face-time than in the first movie. Jean Grey's powers (including her power to resist Logan's come-on's) are significantly stronger than in X-Men I. And Professor X's powers are revealed to be in the domain of demi-gods.

Oh yeah: one of the main characters dies in the course of performing a heroic act. Maybe.

On the down-side: some of the deaths in this movie are rather gruesome. Logan kills when wounding would do (a character-trait consistent with the comic book). Some coarse language is used (why? why?). A couple of scenes with Mystique are definitely not kid-friendly (it's PG-13 for a reason, people!). Rogue /still/ doesn't have a uniform. There might've been a few too many shots of a dam in the process of breaking. And some things are unresolved (Magneto is free, for example) -- a clear sign that X-Men III is in the works.

All in all, I would've done a few things differently, but X-Men II is an action film with layers that give it plenty of redeeming qualities that make it worthwhile. I give it 8 out of 10.

Waterrock