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STR Ambassador
November 22nd 2004, 01:04 PM
Goodness is a slippery term, especially when applied to religion. What looks worthy at first glance can turn out to be evil in the last analysis. And that's the one that counts.


Is Religion Good? by Greg Koukl

I frequently take part in public, interfaith dialogue on radio and TV. The prevailing view among the pastors, rabbis, and priests who participate seems to be that, all things being equal, it's good for a person to have religion in his life. Some kind of religion is preferable to no religion at all. Columnist David Gergen recently wrote, "Whatever form a religious pilgrimage takes, we should encourage those willing to make the journey." [emphasis mine]

Is religion inherently good, though? The catch to this question is defining "good." For many, any enterprise concerned with morality--and religion usually qualifies, here--is considered good. This makes religion appealing. The general consensus is that most religions seek to combat evil in its various forms and espouse some version of the golden rule: "Do unto others...." Religion elevates humanity above the coarse and vulgar. It stimulates man to reach beyond himself to the needs of others.

In its pure form, religion breaks down barriers, unites divisive elements, promotes love and acceptance. Certainly the world would be a better place with more of it, wouldn't it?

The Bad Side of Goodness

"Goodness" is a slippery item. It has a fickle side. Good fortune today may turn on you tomorrow. Pleasure can beget sorrow. Any "good" thing, including religion, must ultimately be measured not by its immediate effect, but by its final product. Let me illustrate.

If a man is dying of cancer, he could take morphine to remove the physical suffering. In a temporal sense, that would be good. He would feel better. He'd be able to do more of the things he enjoys instead of being crippled by pain.

But what if the absence of pain keeps him from going to the doctor? The morphine will not ultimately heal his cancer. If no further steps are taken, the malignancy will eventually kill him. Can we say that the morphine is ultimately beneficial if he eliminates the symptom, but dies from the disease?

No. Ultimately, it is destructive. If relief from pain keeps a man from remedial surgery, then it can't be called good. Whenever a soothing remedy substitutes for health-giving therapy, evil results.

This is true of everything. The apparent goodness of an event can be reversed by its ultimate result. You may eat a fine and sumptuous meal, but if you get food poisoning, then the meal wasn't good for you. A casual sexual encounter may be stimulating, but if you get AIDS you won't look back on the experience with fondness.

Religion's Flaw

The concept that religion is necessarily good is flawed because it doesn't pay enough attention to the end product. Many religions have good moral teachings, but any religion that gives temporal benefits without ultimately leading us to the true God is treating the symptom and not the disease.

I'm not arguing here that the Christian concept of God is necessarily more accurate than any other. That's what I believe, but it's not the point I'm making. I'm simply saying that there is a serious philosophical problem with saying that all religions are equally good in an ultimate sense. Their contradictory ideas about God and the afterlife can't all be correct. Someone must be mistaken.

Religions might offer some kind of moral teaching. That's good as far as it goes. The problem is, it doesn't go far enough. If their fundamental tenets lead to a false conception of God instead of a true understanding, then they cannot be called good in spite of the short term benefit they may offer. It's the final analysis that really counts.

If issues of religion have eternal consequences, then errors in thinking are infinitely tragic. To rephrase Karl Marx, false religion is the opiate of the people. It soothes, but does not cure.


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kaleidoscopic
November 22nd 2004, 01:25 PM
I was raised baptist ( and am now agnostic) and I can say with certaintity that religion ( like everything in life) is both good and bad depending on what a person chooses to use it for. It seems to me though that religion is a means of controlling the masses. This does not mean that some good could not come of it. If you reseach war ( both past and present) you will find that religion is the provicating factor more often that not. Religion does not promote love and unity but rather separatism. Take for instance that in this forum theists and atheists generally do not share the same chat room. It is a wedge used to surpress free exchange of thoughts.

TrinityKicker
November 23rd 2004, 05:31 PM
I was raised baptist ( and am now agnostic) and I can say with certaintity that religion ( like everything in life) is both good and bad depending on what a person chooses to use it for. It seems to me though that religion is a means of controlling the masses. This does not mean that some good could not come of it. If you reseach war ( both past and present) you will find that religion is the provicating factor more often that not. Religion does not promote love and unity but rather separatism. Take for instance that in this forum theists and atheists generally do not share the same chat room. It is a wedge used to surpress free exchange of thoughts.Kaleidoscopic,

You wrote that youthink that everything in life is both good and bad. Don't you think it would be more accurate that you think that nothing in life is good or bad. For instance, a hammer doesn't suddenly become bad because it is used to murder someone. So, you don't seem to think that religon is actually bad. You seem to think that religon is neither bad nor good. Futher, you state the claim that religon does not promote love and unity. Do you think love and unity are good, or does their goodness also depend on what they are used for?

You don't seem to be being consistent in your critique of religon. In the spirit of free exchange of thoughts, can you please clarify your view?

As for me, I would need to know what is meant by religon and good. I think that an intrinsic aspect of goodness is truth. If a religon isn't true then it isn't good. However, I also consider goodness to be in accordance with absolute morality. I answer the question by saying that if there is a true religon, then that religon is good and the others are not. Religon in general is not good because religon in general includes false beliefs.

However, if goodness is merely personal preference, I would prefer that all people hold beliefs like stealing, murder, and lying are generally wrong and charity, faithfulness, and community are generally good.