Lord's Supper: Can preterists tell me what they believe?

[Long Hair]

Is the Lord's Supper for believers today?

[Faramir]

Yesterday @ 11:10 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=91656#post91656)
Long Hair:

Is the Lord's Supper for believers today?

Like Baptism (see my response in the Baptism thread)

the Lord's Supper is not a "preterist" issue. Many preterist are Calvanist, not all, not me. You will get a different response to this question from different preterist.

I believe that the Lord's Supper is for believers today, but then so do many dispensatoinalist (I know because my church observes the Lord's Supper and is mostly DF)

[Dee Dee Warren]

Ditto.

[Long Hair]

I'm asking because I don't see the Lord's Supper as a command in the Bible. Of course, it is always taught that it is (as well as bapitsm) an ordinance and we HAVE to do because Jesus (or Paul) commanded it.
The only Christians that I have found that seem to agree it is not a command are some Preterists. That's why I thought I would ask some!
I'm just trying to understand the Bible better!

[Dee Dee Warren]

The ones you have met might not have been preterists as I use the term but Neo-Hymenaeans (ie hyperpreterists).

[Long Hair]

Dee Dee,
Can you please describe the difference to me. I honestly don't know! Thanks.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Hey Long Hair no problem. In short, a NeoHymenaean believes that ALL prophecy is fulfilled, there is no Second Coming, there is no future general resurrection event. Here is an article I wrote which summarizes why this is so bad.

www.tektonics.org/hythere.html

An orthodox preterist like myself believes that most prophecy is fufilled but those two things above, along with the final judgment, are future.

[Freak]

Yesterday @ 04:10 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=91656#post91656)
Long Hair:

Is the Lord's Supper for believers today?


Who cares what preterists believe about this....
:zzz:

[Dee Dee Warren]

Ahh trolling again I see. :troll: Some things never change.

[Freak]

Today @ 04:07 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92534#post92534)
Dee Dee Warren:

Ahh trolling again I see. :troll: Some things never change.



:whip: back girl back.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Long Hair, since you apparently did care since you asked the question, despite the trolling efforts by a certain member, please know that you have the right to request that your thread stay on topic and to whom it was directed to. If you don't care if Freak trolls your thread, I don't care, it is up to you.

[Freak]

Today @ 04:16 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92542#post92542)
Dee Dee Warren:

Long Hair, since you apparently did care since you asked the question, despite the trolling efforts by a certain member, please know that you have the right to request that your thread stay on topic and to whom it was directed to. If you don't care if Freak trolls your thread, I don't care, it is up to you.


The Holy Scriptures tells us alot about the Lord's Supper do preterism have something to add to what the Holy Scriptures have already declared?

[Dee Dee Warren]

Today @ 11:04 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92530#post92530)
Freak:




Who cares what preterists believe about this....
:zzz:

[Freak]

Today @ 04:20 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92546#post92546)
Dee Dee Warren:



Who cares what they say if contradicts with Scripture.

:teeth:

[Dee Dee Warren]

I believe the same thing as you Freak. :rofl:

[Long Hair]

Freaky,
Can you please excuse my ignorance and tell me what's troll?
I don't get it. I thought I was asking a serious question. All's I'm getting is stupid stuff. Maybe I'm not computer literate enough. Is it possible to get a serious answer?:hrm:

[Long Hair]

Where does it contradict scripture?

[Dee Dee Warren]

Long Hair, since I used the term, trolling is posting simply to stir up dissension and trouble. I was not refering to your posts whatsoever.

[Freak]

Today @ 04:33 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92553#post92553)
Long Hair:

Freaky,
Can you please excuse my ignorance and tell me what's troll?
I don't get it. I thought I was asking a serious question. All's I'm getting is stupid stuff. Maybe I'm not computer literate enough. Is it possible to get a serious answer?:hrm:

Preterism is another faddish doctrinal system created by man. Regarding this issue I would urge you stick with Scripture.

[Freak]

Today @ 04:29 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92551#post92551)
Dee Dee Warren:

I believe the same thing as you Freak. :rofl:

Scripture should be elevated not a fadish doctrinal system that you promote.



:teeth:

[Dee Dee Warren]

I was talking about the Lord's Supper :rofl: You do believe in the Lord's Supper don't you?

[Long Hair]

OK I think maybe I'm catching on a little: Freaky is a troll! He invited himself into the discussion when I only asked for Preterists, correct? Boy, how rude! :rant:

[Dee Dee Warren]

Yes Long Hair, I am sorry you thought I was referring to you. It was Freak who was trolling.

[Long Hair]

Thanks Dee Dee. I'm learning! :smile:

[yxboom]

Yesterday @ 08:55 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=92573#post92573)
Long Hair:

OK I think maybe I'm catching on a little: Freaky is a troll! He invited himself into the discussion when I only asked for Preterists, correct? Boy, how rude! :rant:

There are a few options available. You could have this thread moved to the Liberal Arts which is strictly Q & A. Or you could request Freak to no longer post which he needs to respect. Else you can click on the Report button to report his post and a moderator will address him. Thanks.

[Long Hair]

Ok. Freak, I would like to have answers from preterists only. Thanks.

[John Reece]

I am a preterist.

This is what I believe regarding the Lord’s Supper:

1 Corinthians 11

23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me." 25 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. (ESV)

While meditating on the above scripture one morning, two questions came to mind:

(1) What is the meaning of the Lord’s Death?
(2) What is the relationship between His Coming and His Death?

These answers were given to me:

(1) The Lord’s Death was a death to all that is of man, so that all that is of God might be manifested in man.
(2) The Lord’s Coming is related to the manifestation in man of all that is of God.

Those answers resonate with what I see as the teleology of John 14-17; 1 Corinthians 12-15, Ephesians 1-4, and the ambiguity of φανερωθη in 1 John 3:2.

[Long Hair]

Wow, that was over my head. What do you think 1 Corinthians 11:26 means by "until he come"?

[Merlin137]

Wow! This is the first time that I have come across this term too, Long Hair, (Hymenaeum, too). I am just as curious as you about what preterists think and how they came to their knowledge as preterists? I know the issue is not pertinent to my salvation but I have an inquisitive nature. Please define, as if from a dictionary or encyclopedia and not just from biblical texts. I realize from whence come your biblical texts, as I have grown up in a denomination that has taught the Second Coming of Christ and the subsequent Mellenial Reign. I like to decide about this issue with an informed mind!!!

:help:

:bunny:

[Long Hair]

I haven't studied the subject of the second coming of Christ to know what I believe about that yet. I don't believe in a literal 1000 year reign of Christ, though. Right now, I'm quite stuck on this "until he come" phrase in 1 Cor. 11:26. There are verses that use this same type of language and I belive that they mean 70 A.D. (John 21:22-23). Other verses seem like the end of time, maybe.
The Bible doesn't say that Jesus commanded a perpetual ordinance of the Lord's Supper.

[Faramir]

Good questions Merlin. I do not have time to answer right now. Will bump thread so other preterist may answer. If they do not, I will try to get back to it.

[Long Hair]

Faramir and other Preterists,
Can you please elaborate on 1 Cor. 11:26 "until he come".
I would appreciate it. I think it will help me in my study on the subject of the Lord's Supper. Thanks!

[Bill the Cat]

Hey Long Hair,

I am a DF and I don't think it was commanded to be done. Jesus was merely saying when you DO gather and break the bread and drink the cup, you do it to remember His death and Resurrection. It's like saying when you drive, wear your seatbelt. The command was not to drive, it was to do it properly when you do drive.

FWIW, my church only takes it every quarter, and it is not mandatory.