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Snarf
December 17th 2004, 05:06 PM
This is a question for all. Certain individuals (you know who you are), have been starting threads which usually involve quoting verses from the Koran, interpreting them literally and then use their interpretation (even though they are X-tian and do not appear to have consulted Muslim sources for interpretation, except for violent ones) and then use their interpretation to inform the readers that based on these verses, Muslims are all commanded to be killers, Muslims are responsible for most if not all the terrorism in the world, etc. Occasionally, they mention how much they love Muslims after informing us how violent Muslims are and that their beliefs are at the root of most terrorism.

Yet, when confronted with verses from their own holy book in which their own deity commands His followers to kill, said individuals say that literal interpretations do not apply, or that such an interpretation is out of context. In short, these Xtians take Koranic verses on violence, and interpret them in the worst possible way in order to portray Muslims as killers. They conveniently ignore verses in the Koran which talk about good things that Muslims are commanded to do. They then apply another standard to Biblical verses on violence in order to give the false impression that their God would never harm anyone.

So, my question for all is this: Is misrepresentation of a religion's teachings a form of dishonesty? Like propaganda? Does anyone here, besides the Xtians in question, think that Jesus approves of describing a group of people for the purpose of inciting hatred of them?

For all Muslims reading this, do these charges levelled against you by these Xtians give you reason to feel loved by them?

Timothy Leary
December 17th 2004, 08:25 PM
Yes, it is.

Unfortunately, in Apologetics of any sort, the majority of the "attackers" often take things out of context. This isn't only limited to Christianity vs Islam. It's also Atheism vs The Bible, Protestant vs Catholic, Christianity vs Mormons, Judaism vs Christianity, etc.

revivalfire
December 18th 2004, 12:06 AM
True....it happens with alot of religions...on extremist faction versus the other.... To me, we have to remember that because we have a view here that act like extremist doesn't mean that they are all like that...with some of things Muslims in general have been accused of, I don't think it is fair....there are better ways of witnessing the offending them...Yoshiya..I know we don't share the same faith...but you witness too don't you? Wouldn't you agree that you attract more flies with honey then vinegar; I mean in your experiences?

Timothy Leary
December 18th 2004, 02:21 AM
Yoshiya..I know we don't share the same faith...but you witness too don't you? Wouldn't you agree that you attract more flies with honey then vinegar; I mean in your experiences?

In what sense do you "witness"?

kiwimac
December 18th 2004, 06:52 AM
Yes it is!

Christians (rightly) get upset when the Bible is quoted without regard to context. Why should christians then do it to others?

Kiwimac

revivalfire
December 18th 2004, 10:18 AM
In what sense do you "witness"?
Like....in my case...winning souls for Christ. In your case I'm not entirely sure...I'm not that fluent in Judaism's goal for gaining converts..if it has one at all....I thought that it would... Witnessing...like showing people my beliefs.....

Timothy Leary
December 18th 2004, 11:12 PM
I generally keep my beliefs to myself unless someone asks, but that's just my way of things. Judaism doesn't try to convert people, except in converting Jews back to Judaism if they convert to another religion (or non-religion).

Cynic Sage
December 19th 2004, 12:23 AM
This is a question for all. Certain individuals (you know who you are), have been starting threads which usually involve quoting verses from the Koran, interpreting them literally and then use their interpretation (even though they are X-tian and do not appear to have consulted Muslim sources for interpretation, except for violent ones) and then use their interpretation to inform the readers that based on these verses, Muslims are all commanded to be killers, Muslims are responsible for most if not all the terrorism in the world, etc. Occasionally, they mention how much they love Muslims after informing us how violent Muslims are and that their beliefs are at the root of most terrorism.

:attn:OOH! OOH! You're talking about Jude3b and Crusader, aren't you?
Crusader accused me of pretending to be a xtian because I typed it using an "x".

kiwimac
December 19th 2004, 12:28 AM
Yoshiyah,

Whats your take on Liberal Judaism?

Kiwimac