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Cello
January 5th 2005, 10:59 AM
TheSeed mentioned finding a point of conflict between the teachings or studies of pyschology and the teachings, studies or beliefs of the faith ...or maybe reconciling the teachings with the faith...

Wondering if others found that to be true and if so what particular issues do you have trouble reconciling?

(Theseed, sorry if I've misinterpretted your post, feel free to correct and/or add!!)

theseed
January 6th 2005, 10:54 PM
TheSeed mentioned finding a point of conflict between the teachings or studies of pyschology and the teachings, studies or beliefs of the faith ...or maybe reconciling the teachings with the faith...

Wondering if others found that to be true and if so what particular issues do you have trouble reconciling?

(Theseed, sorry if I've misinterpretted your post, feel free to correct and/or add!!)
No, you are correct. The best example I can think of is humanistic psychology that denies that we need forgiveness on God. For exampele, Harris' book I'm OK, your OK delves into the Bible some at the end. He says that we are all ok, and that forgiveness is realizing your ok. However, most of the book is about out people are dishonest and play games (go figure). I don't believe we are OK, but that we can be OK.

As a School counselor, I will probably be working in a public school where I will be faced with many ethical decisions--and in some of them, by biblical beliefs come into play. For example, suppose a I counseled a female student who discloses that she is pregnant, and she wants me to refer her to a doctor for an abortion.

Do I say no that's wrong? Is it fair to impose my values? If I advise against, she may become even more determined. Experiance tells me that counselees usually do the opposite when advise is given. Secondly, do I refer her to someone who will refer her? Like a school nurse? Would that not be the same thing. This is just one example.

Cello
January 7th 2005, 01:36 PM
No, you are correct. The best example I can think of is humanistic psychology that denies that we need forgiveness on God. For exampele, Harris' book I'm OK, your OK delves into the Bible some at the end. He says that we are all ok, and that forgiveness is realizing your ok. However, most of the book is about out people are dishonest and play games (go figure). I don't believe we are OK, but that we can be OK.

As a School counselor, I will probably be working in a public school where I will be faced with many ethical decisions--and in some of them, by biblical beliefs come into play. For example, suppose a I counseled a female student who discloses that she is pregnant, and she wants me to refer her to a doctor for an abortion.

Do I say no that's wrong? Is it fair to impose my values? If I advise against, she may become even more determined. Experiance tells me that counselees usually do the opposite when advise is given. Secondly, do I refer her to someone who will refer her? Like a school nurse? Would that not be the same thing. This is just one example.
Hey there. I was coming at it mostly from the 'school of thought' avenue -- are there principles being taught that conflict with your faith, which oyu hit on in the 'humanistic' part....thanks for the response. I will have to pull out some of my notes tonight - I ran across them this morning as I was looking for something else...I remember thinking - "I don't agree with any of the 'schools'!" And we were told (as an exercise) to select which we 'agreed' with or I guess most fell in with...that was hard for me.

As far as the pregnancy situation....I don't know....but wouldn't it be part of the 'job' to simply present all the options and the reasons behind it and then hope (pray) she selects that which is the 'better' option (in accordance with our faith) though some will argue WE can't know what is better for her particular situation - but I think maybe you get what I mean?

In fact, this is where I am presently having awful trouble with my teenage daughter. Simply presenting all the facts about things - ANY things....I tend to want to tell her what to do and why and its really created a difficulty situation in our communications and relastionships overall.

Wanna do some private online counseling...*grin*...lol