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CaptRuss
February 6th 2005, 03:58 PM
I'm starting a research paper for my Sociology class. The research is to understand, who becomes a Creationist, why, where you’re from etc. Your help is most appreciated.

Please give basic background:
Age, State of residence, Maritial status, Education Level, Religious Affiliation, Occupation.

What type of Creationist are you? Examples:

Flat Earthers - believe that the earth is flat and is covered by a solid dome or firmament. Waters above the firmament were the source of Noah's flood. This belief is based on a literal reading of the Bible, such as references to the "four corners of the earth" and the "circle of the earth." Few people hold this extreme view, but some do.

Geocentrism - accept a spherical earth but deny that the sun is the center of the solar system or that the earth moves. As with flat-earth views, the water of Noah's flood came from above a solid firmament. The basis for their belief is a literal reading of the Bible. "It is not an interpretation at all, it is what the words say." (Willis 2000) Both flat-earthers and geocentrists reflect the cosmological views of ancient Hebrews. Geocentrism is not common today, but one geocentrist (Tom Willis) was intrumental in revising the Kansas elementary school curriculum to remove references to evolution, earth history, and science methodology.

Young Earth Creationists - claim a literal interpretation of the Bible as a basis for their beliefs. They believe that the earth is 6000 to 10,000 years old, that all life was created in six literal days, that death and decay came as a result of Adam & Eve's Fall, and that geology must be interpreted in terms of Noah's Flood. However, they accept a spherical earth and heliocentric solar system.

Old-Earth Creationists - accept the evidence for an ancient earth but still believe that life was specially created by God, and they still base their beliefs on the Bible. There are a few different ways of accomodating their religion with science.

Day-age creationists - interpret each day of creation as a long period of time, even thousands or millions of years. They see a parallel between the order of events presented in Genesis 1 and the order accepted by mainstream science. Day-Age Creationism was more popular than Gap Creationism in the 19th and and early 20th centuries.

Evolutionary Creationism - differs from Theistic Evolution only in its theology, not in its science. It says that God operates not in the gaps, but that nature has no existence independent of His will. It allows interpretations consistent with both a literal Genesis and objective science, allowing, for example, that the events of creation occurred, but not in time as we know it, and that Adam was not the first biological human but the first spiritually aware one.

Theistic Evolution - says that God creates through evolution. Theistic Evolutionists vary in beliefs about how much God intervenes in the process. It accepts most or all of modern science, but it invokes God for some things outside the realm of science, such as the creation of the human soul. This position is promoted by the Pope and taught at mainline Protestant seminaries.

Materialistic Evolution - differs from Theistic Evolution in saying that God does not actively interfere with evolution. It is not necessarily atheistic, though; many Materialistic Evolutionists believe that God created evolution, for example. Materialistic evolution may be divided into methodological and philosophical materialism. Methodological materialism limits itself to describing the natural world with natural causes; it says nothing at all about the supernatural, neither affirming nor denying its existence or its role in life.

Philosophical materialism - says that the supernatural does not exist. It says that not only is evolution a natural process, but so is everything else.

Vedic Creationism
Hinduism speaks of a very ancient earth. One book influenced by Hindu belief argues that anatomically modern humans have existed for billions of years.

Finally, What brought you to believe what you believe?

Your help is most appreciated.

Constantine
February 6th 2005, 06:01 PM
I am a Theistic Evolutionist. I am 17, live in Florida, am a practicing Roman Catholic, and for education I am dual enrolled in college. Basically means I'm taking college course while in high school, at the end of this semester I'll have 49 college credit hours, so basically 4 elective classes away from my AA.

I am a former YEC, I became a theistic evolutionist after a long journey starting about a year ago that was prompted by running across rampant anti-Catholicism in young-earth creationist literature. I chose TE over old earth creationism because it was more theologically and scientifically sound. Both YEC and OEC have pretty big theological problems, problems that theistic evolution solves (like why did God create ebola or AIDS for example). Changing world views like that isn't easy, and it took me a while but now I am happy and more secure and mature in my faith than I have ever been.

Once I decided that I wasn't going to rely on AiG or ICR to inform me of the subject and went digging on my own I found that the theological and also (as many know) the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of theistic evolution. The problem that many YEC people have is that they don't have the time or the initiative to actually look beyond their own opinion or they are so convinced that Christianity stands or falls with it that they will do any mental contortion they have to in order to defend it. Something like "Morton's Demon" idea.

If that is not enough information for your poll then let me know and I'll elaborate on any specifics you need.

Jack777
February 8th 2005, 04:03 PM
I am a creationist because the Bible says God created the universe. I was mainly a secular humanist as far as educational influence and evolution seemed to be the way to think about reality as explaining origins. I had an existential/pantheistic belief to some extent agnostic the rest of the way and thought Christians were not to be trusted. I still think that pretty much, but that is due to human nature and not a function of being a Christian. A lot of evolution is not true but it works to help arrange things well in science and is a good conceptual model to some extent.

I became a Christian as an adult when a truck driver witnessed to me about Jesus.

I notice that God is a Creationist and that is good enough for me. I guess I am a Creation Creationist, a Christian Creationist. I think ID is onto some good ideas though I probably would disagree with a lot of them in detail. I try to stay clear of categories. For one thing I do not fit into one. How about Reality or Fact Based Creationist? No, no....well put down something like that.

55, Kentucky, single, MS, North American Christian Convention, Finance