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Ray Watson
May 20th 2003, 12:35 AM
Which gospel must I believe to be saved?

There are many gospels in the scriptures and we must be able to rightly divide our Bible to find which one is for us today.

1. John the Baptize preached the baptism of remission of sins. Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. He also preached, “repent and be baptized for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand”. Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
2. Jesus preached the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
3. The 12 apostles that Jesus chose were commanded to preach the gospel of the Kingdom. Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
[6] But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
[7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
4. Peter is still preaching after the resurrection that Israel needed to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins in order to receive the gift of the Hold Ghost. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
[20] And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
5. Paul received a different gospel from the risen Lord in heaven. Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
[12] For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Paul’s gospel states that Christ died for all mans sins, and that he was buried and took those sins away and that He rose again the third day for our justification. I Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
[4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
During the tribulation period, there is an angel from heaven who preaches the everlasting gospel unto all that dwell on the earth. Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,[7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Carl Smuda
May 21st 2003, 05:12 PM
Ray,
God Bless you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ! The Gospel that we should believe is the same good news that the Lord Jesus preached. IMHO, it isn't so much that Paul's is different. But you will recall that on the night our Lord was betrayed He said He had many things to tell them "but they could not bear it now [then]" But when the spirit of truth comes it would lead them into all the truth.

I like the way you marked the revelation Paul received from the Lord Jesus Christ as a different gospel. It forced me to think and I like that. :juggle:

As others before us have said: The MASTER thought of the Master is The Kingdom of God. There is one Gospel. the world tomorrow. The age to come. The new heavens and earth. If you wanna really understand how all the verses you posted fit together you will have to read up on "The Kingdom of God."

What that meant to the believers before the birth of our Lord, what it meant to John, Christ Jesus, and His original followers, and what it has meant to all Christiandom.

Study "Kingdom of God." Study "Inaugurated Eschatology." or "Realized Eschatology." and the like.

My friend let me pass on to you what I have received through men of God who teach others: When we study the New Testament we observe three things:

1. What the OT writers wrote about the coming Messiah has happened.

2. What the OT writers described as a singe event is now understood to be two actions: This age, and the age to come.

3. The blessings we receive from the Lord's Christ via the gift of Holy Spirit are only a down payment or earnest or token of greater blessings to follow in the next age.

The common denominator is the Kingdom of God. That is the Gospel you should believe. And it will include the name of Jesus Christ. And it will include preaching Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery. And it will include blessings available today as the more than abundant life that He came to give us as real event now and promise of a better future.

Your thoughts? anyone?

Carl

Ray Watson
May 21st 2003, 05:50 PM
Carl all I can say is the fact that gospel means good news. The good news for us today is that Christ died for our sins. He was buried and took our sins away and he rose again the third day for our justification (I Cor 15:1-4) The good news for Noah was certainly different than our good news. Jesus, John, the 12 apostles preached a different gospel than the gospel of the death, burial and resurrection. I don't see how anybody could not see that there are different gospels preached to different people at different times.

Warcraft3
May 21st 2003, 05:57 PM
Not another "different gospel" thread:bawl:

Peter and Paul did not preach a different gospel.

Just read the book of Acts, its quite clear. Really, it is.


PEOPLE!!!!

They did not preach different gospels, this claim has been dealt with before in several theads and has been beaten like a red-headed step child.




Russ

Carl Smuda
May 21st 2003, 06:02 PM
LOL! So, THAT's what's happening eh? :rofl:

I appreciate the tears. But I just dropped a line to Dee Dee and said I'd see what 'cha all been doin here. :poke:

Ray? Is that it? You sure? Is that all you want to know? :jade:

Ray Watson
May 21st 2003, 08:41 PM
It may have been beaten like a red headed-step child. But it is not what they say, it what says the scripture and even a red headed-step child can understand that there are many gosels in the scriptures.

Bib Lit Major
May 22nd 2003, 01:31 AM
For some reason this is the only topic I post on here at TWeb! I have posted 4 or 5 posts at this point and they have all been related to this topic! I don't think I've ever heard this debated till I came here so I am intrigued as to how this came about. Perhaps we'd be better served though to link to the other threads in the dispensationalism 101 forum so that we can have all the posts and posters together in one area to discuss this stance.

Carl Smuda
May 22nd 2003, 10:44 AM
Not a bad Idea, Friend. This is obviously something that Dispensationalists struggle with. :shrug: